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Old 07-06-2005, 01:08 AM   #1
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The Symbolic Nature of Indy IV

Indy IV: Indiana Jones and the Edge of Creation (though Realm of the Dead is pretty cool too…) sits greenlighted on a Producers desk at Paramount. You can all discuss the working title if you like, or you can banter about how I know what I know, it makes no difference to me, as long as it is civil and adheres to the Hamanaptura of the Raven. The point is: there is a symbolism that the unholy trinity wanted to convey with this film.

What I will tell you is this. There is a symbolic connection to this Final Cinematic Chapter in the Indy Legend. This is the Fourth Film. That’s right, read it again. No. F-O-U-R. The only number in the English language whose letters equal it’s nomenclature. Now, that might not seem like a big deal to you, but consider this. George “Jungian” Lucas has exhausted the archetypal motifs at this point. Spielberg’s “Big Two” have already been examined. Ford, well he’s old (sorry Canyon, he is.) That only leaves “Purpose” as an underlying theme for this final film. Herein lies-The Four

There are FOUR winds that blow on the earth. Even before Magellan sailed the ocean blue, these winds were spoken of in a little know Patmosian text, describing how no winds would blow on any tree or sea. You can reference this at Rev. 7:1. This corresponds to the FOUR Cardinal points of a compass. But I see that you are all skeptical. Even you ToJ are wondering how this will all tie into a final film. But that’s okay, I will expand on this: There are the FOUR Cardinal Virtues as described by Plato: Prudence-Fortitude-Temperance-Justice,. Now this is all well and good, but how do these Greek virtues tie in with the Judeo-Christian beliefs? Simple, you’ll like this connection Mr. . That would be through the FOUR Rivers to Hell that Plato spoke of in the Phadeo and were further expanded upon through Dante and Virgil. Not coincidently enough, these FOUR rivers also correspond with the FOUR Rivers that bind the Garden of Eden: The Pison, The Gihon, The Hiddekel, and the Euphrates. (the Garden, as you know is protected buy the sword of fire…hmmmmm).

FOUR Seasons dictate a mans (or womans, you misogynistic reader, you) life, and that can be linked to the FOUR ages of the world: Gold, Silver, Bronze and Iron. (if you can’t see how Raiders, Doom, Crusade and Creation fits there, than maybe there is no hope for you, at this point. I can only spell out so much, before having to answer to superiors). The Journey (or Red Line: Joe Brody style) will take place across the FOUR Land Continents after Pangaea: Europe, Asia, Africa and America. though not in that order

And to top it all off, this study of the Rule of Four, that I have alluded to in several post past: can be culminated “Da Vinci Code” Style though the Art of 1) Michelangelo’s Sculptures in Medici Chapel, 2) Sally Fisher’s Allegory of Prudence, 3) Giordano’s Rape of Europa and the 4) Chaldean Calendar.

But now I digress, I have shared too much, though my friend “Jack” said it would be okay.

“Their all gonna laugh at you.” said Stephen Kings Siren, as I transcribed this tonight. But who knows. Maybe there is enough there above, to actually tie in several thousand years of diverse mythology, and history, to actually convince all you Raven Indy Film Fans (hmm, I see a pun in there) that perhaps there is something to this Final Fourth Film in the Indiana Jones Film Canon.

Or maybe I have had too much Grail Water.
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Old 07-06-2005, 01:09 AM   #2
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Old 06-10-2008, 09:33 AM   #3
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Old 06-10-2008, 01:45 PM   #4
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Well... I'm speechless


I think I should see Indy FOUR again to see all these references I missed...
Or maybe I need to drink from your Grail Water.
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Old 06-10-2008, 02:17 PM   #5
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At last, no longer a need to drop hints of this thread's existence.
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you can banter about how I know what I know
Yeah, I was finding this difficult until now. So you saw the title with your own eyes on a script? Because it's brilliant and perfect for what I think it's about. And I naively believe it can still happen.
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At last, no longer a need to drop hints of this thread's existence....

... And I naively believe it can still happen.

So do I my friend, so do I.
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Old 04-30-2009, 05:21 AM   #7
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There are FOUR winds that blow on the earth.
Could these be the four who hold them back?
http://thanasis.com/winds.htm
(Familiar site name. Thanasis means eternal life...)
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Old 04-30-2009, 09:13 AM   #8
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Indeed. And a little research note too, the Edith Hamilton book shown as a reference to that web page is a staple in the Pale Horse household. It, and the detail of this webpage certainly take it farther then I imagined. I saw more of an older map being used to pinpoint the rivers to Eden, something akin to this:



(Note: the rivers, adam and eve, the serpent and the four winds.)

Love the site name too, but it's purely coincidental to thanatosis (my wife).
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One could easily come up with twice as much anecdotes about the symbolic quality of the number THREE. Which would be pointless, likewise.
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