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Old 08-19-2007, 12:47 PM   #51
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Dude, there's nothing to "blindly accept." It's a free video. I watched it. It had some interesting stuff in it, and some not-interesting stuff. It was 180 seconds of my life. I didn't "praise" it, I simply shrugged and I cannot, for the life me, see what is the big deal.

Your loss.
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Old 08-19-2007, 04:25 PM   #52
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"It's not even remotely related to this vendetta you seem to have against paid footage on StarWars.com."

I don't have a vendetta, just an opinion on the subject! If you don't see it as related that's fine, it's your opinion and your entitled to it! I see the mindset behind the marketing campaign of Lucas and Co. as directly related to this 3 minute video clip. That mindset being a "They'll take whatever we throw at them, and in most cases pay for it!" philosophy.
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Old 08-19-2007, 06:14 PM   #53
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I don't have a vendetta, just an opinion on the subject! If you don't see it as related that's fine, it's your opinion and your entitled to it! I see the mindset behind the marketing campaign of Lucas and Co. as directly related to this 3 minute video clip. That mindset being a "They'll take whatever we throw at them, and in most cases pay for it!" philosophy.

As evidenced by all the FREE content we've seen so far? Yes, now I see. Those bastards.
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Old 08-19-2007, 07:51 PM   #54
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"It's not even remotely related to this vendetta you seem to have against paid footage on StarWars.com."

I don't have a vendetta, just an opinion on the subject! If you don't see it as related that's fine, it's your opinion and your entitled to it! I see the mindset behind the marketing campaign of Lucas and Co. as directly related to this 3 minute video clip. That mindset being a "They'll take whatever we throw at them, and in most cases pay for it!" philosophy.

I'm gonna have to agree with Chapter 11, you two are taking that video way too personally and acting like the people in charge of the marketing are really out to get you or something.

Maybe they want to keep the site updated with new content to get you "excited" for the new film. Maybe they didn't have time to shoot a bunch of new interviews so they used old archive footage so you at least have something to watch or perhaps they want to keep you coming back to the site for more and are just teasing. Either way, the mentality that they're just throwing anything at you because you'll take anything is stupid.

It's free. It's like disagreeing to a commercial you saw on television. Who cares? You didn't have to watch it, it was fairly short. It's a nothing video on the website just meant to get you and others ex citied. Possibly the others who haven't seen all that footage that is old and maybe don't realize it anyway, so it doesn't bother them.

They haven't asked anything of you from Indiana Jones.com. The site lay nearly untouched for years and now it has become active with a new layout and videos to watch... just shut up about the fact that one of those videos apparently attacked you on some kind of level to make you feel the need to rebel against them for doing that to you.

ResidentAlien, you said "your loss." How so? Let's say that you decide not to accept the crap they're shoving down your throat and millions of others do that too... so what you get out of it is that they don't make a short video on IJ.com to build excitement for the film. Or you get a video with behind the scenes stuff. That will probably come too, get over it.

To act like this is really that big of a deal or that it has somehow been aimed at it's fans in a mocking way is ridiculous. Make your statement. It will make no difference to them or me or anyone else. Because I think most people see that it's just a stupid video on the official site.

A video that was made, IMO, with absolutely the best of intentions.
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Old 08-19-2007, 08:30 PM   #55
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ResidentAlien, you said "your loss." How so? Let's say that you decide not to accept the crap they're shoving down your throat and millions of others do that too... so what you get out of it is that they don't make a short video on IJ.com to build excitement for the film. Or you get a video with behind the scenes stuff. That will probably come too, get over it.


It's his loss that he can't recognize that he's being led.

When you boil it down, the video really isn't all that important. It's the idea behind it, the idea of blind acceptance that the video encourages. What's really important is that people, come May 22nd, don't go into the movie and say it's good just cause it's Indiana Jones, or likewise say it's bad just because they don't want another film. It's about remaining objective. That's the real issue.
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Old 08-19-2007, 09:55 PM   #56
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I really don't think it's blind acceptance that's being forced upon you by this video. Look, it's a promotional video to promote Indiana Jones 4. That's pretty much it. You don't have to watch it if you don't want to. I, for one, think it's great that they're doing little "teaser" videos to get us excited and keep us up to date-without revealing too much-on filming. No, the video was NOT ground-breaking and full of knock-your-socks-off revelations, but it wasn't meant to be.
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:52 AM   #57
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It's his loss that he can't recognize that he's being led. When you boil it down, the video really isn't all that important. It's the idea behind it, the idea of blind acceptance that the video encourages. What's really important is that people, come May 22nd, don't go into the movie and say it's good just cause it's Indiana Jones, or likewise say it's bad just because they don't want another film. It's about remaining objective. That's the real issue.

Oh, for crying out loud. Get off your high horse! You're making some extremely bizarre leaps of "logic" here that aren't even remotely related to reality *or* anything I've said in this entire pointless thread.

The video symbolizes nothing. NOTHING. It's not symbolic of some big-picture scheme by Lucas to fleece the masses. It's not a money-grubbing stunt. It's none of those things, and you're only making yourself look silly by insisting that anyone who doesn't feel violated and cheated by that video is a mindless sheep.

Come May 22, I and everyone else on this board will go to movies. We'll see a new Indiana Jones flick. Most of us, being Indiana Jones fans, are excited by the prospect of a new movie made by the same people who brought us the original three. Some of us are hesitant because of Ford's age and Lucas' recent track record. But for the most part, I think many people are still excited and remain cautiously optimistic. We don't have blind faith, just a little cheery optimism.

In any event, if it's a good movie, we'll like it. If it's not, we'll be disappointed. End of story.
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:38 AM   #58
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Oh, for crying out loud. Get off your high horse! You're making some extremely bizarre leaps of "logic" here that aren't even remotely related to reality *or* anything I've said in this entire pointless thread.

The video symbolizes nothing. NOTHING. It's not symbolic of some big-picture scheme by Lucas to fleece the masses. It's not a money-grubbing stunt. It's none of those things, and you're only making yourself look silly by insisting that anyone who doesn't feel violated and cheated by that video is a mindless sheep.

Come May 22, I and everyone else on this board will go to movies. We'll see a new Indiana Jones flick. Most of us, being Indiana Jones fans, are excited by the prospect of a new movie made by the same people who brought us the original three. Some of us are hesitant because of Ford's age and Lucas' recent track record. But for the most part, I think many people are still excited and remain cautiously optimistic. We don't have blind faith, just a little cheery optimism.

In any event, if it's a good movie, we'll like it. If it's not, we'll be disappointed. End of story.

Who's on a high horse here? I've made my point and yet you keep coming back to tell me I'm wrong. I've had one point here all along. No great leap of logic, if you don't like my point, tough ****in' luck. Chill out, calm down. Take a deep breath and relax. And you're still missing the damned point. What I'm insisting is that anyone who doesn't QUESTION what they're looking out is a ****ing idiot--a stool pigeon, a sheep; and that's hard to argue because it's absolutely right. It's about questioning and remaining objective. Not about feeling violated. Open your eyes, dammit.
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Old 08-20-2007, 12:30 PM   #59
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Who's on a high horse here? I've made my point and yet you keep coming back to tell me I'm wrong. I've had one point here all along. No great leap of logic, if you don't like my point, tough ****in' luck. Chill out, calm down. Take a deep breath and relax. And you're still missing the damned point. What I'm insisting is that anyone who doesn't QUESTION what they're looking out is a ****ing idiot--a stool pigeon, a sheep; and that's hard to argue because it's absolutely right. It's about questioning and remaining objective. Not about feeling violated. Open your eyes, dammit.

I get your point, I just think it's ludicrous to apply it to this particular topic. There's a big difference between being a skeptic and being a cynic. But whatever. This topic is dead.
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Old 08-20-2007, 12:47 PM   #60
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I get your point, I just think it's ludicrous to apply it to this particular topic. There's a big difference between being a skeptic and being a cynic. But whatever. This topic is dead.

Yes, thanks to you and your now very dead horse.
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:51 PM   #61
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So everyone agrees the video's a steaming pile of monkey ****e?

Good, now lets go for a pint.....
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Old 08-20-2007, 06:39 PM   #62
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So everyone agrees the video's a steaming pile of monkey ****e?


Nope. Not me.
but I still would like that pint
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:41 AM   #63
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Nope. Not me.
but I still would like that pint

Alright, I'll get the first round. Anybody else?
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:43 AM   #64
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Alright, I'll get the first round. Anybody else?

I'm in!
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:48 AM   #65
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Sounds like a plan Replican't!
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It's a lovely sunny afternoon here in Wycombe, so I'm going down the pub to sit in the beer garden with a nice cold lager.

I'll get the rounds in if you lot turn up, yeah?
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Old 08-26-2007, 07:41 AM   #67
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It's a lovely sunny afternoon here in Wycombe, so I'm going down the pub to sit in the beer garden with a nice cold lager.

I'll get the rounds in if you lot turn up, yeah?

Sod Wycombe mate - come to Kentish Town! Just off to the rooftop terrace of my local - I'll keep a shandy cold for you.
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:58 PM   #68
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What the **** is going on over at indianajones.com?
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:12 PM   #69
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Almost a month without any official news. And more than a month since the last significant update.
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One could also argue, though, that it was about time they slowed down the frequency of updates. There's only so much footage and sound you can show every two weeks when without ending up in total ****ing spoilerification...

Understanding that doesn't keep me from eagerly wishing for an update every new day...

My initial motivation to post was the fact that I can't access the official site at all anymore. But judging from your reaction and the most recent Raven posts this seems to be a rather personal problem...
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One could also argue, though, that it was about time they slowed down the frequency of updates. There's only so much footage and sound you can show every two weeks when without ending up in total ****ing spoilerification...

Understanding that doesn't keep me from eagerly wishing for an update every new day...

My initial motivation to post was the fact that I can't access the official site at all anymore. But judging from your reaction and the most recent Raven posts this seems to be a rather personal problem...

You can't access the official site by typing in indianajones.com anymore. The current address is http://www.indianajones.com/site/index.html

About the updates, I'm not looking for anything too spoilerific. They can provide on set interviews or whatever without revealing major spoilers. I'd like them to slowly give us some basic character and story information.
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You can't access the official site by typing in indianajones.com anymore. The current address is http://www.indianajones.com/site/index.html

About the updates, I'm not looking for anything too spoilerific. They can provide on set interviews or whatever without revealing major spoilers. I'd like them to slowly give us some basic character and story information.


WWW.IndianaJones.com works just as well. Though I'm having trouble getting there without the World Wide Web prefix.
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