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Far out man. So they, like, knew loads of stuff.
Pass the mushrooms, man, cos like I haven't seen a little green man in like five minutes.
So, like, I'm still, like, TOTALLY FREAKED OUT by how those Dogon dudes knew, like, so much about that invisible star, like, wa-a-a-ay before it was, like, first seen with, like, a telescope, man!
So, like, I'm still, like, TOTALLY FREAKED OUT by how those Dogon dudes knew, like, so much about that invisible star, like, wa-a-a-ay before it was, like, first seen with, like, a telescope, man!
Why isn't this like Facebook, where I could like something. Cos I like your post. It was like awesome.
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So, you, ah, like, all booked up to go see those dudes, like?
Like, no, dude. Too short notice and my, like, transporter-beam-thing was, like, busted. Total downer!
It is known that Giorgio Tsoukalos has seen & liked "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" (he said so when posting here at The Raven with the username, Legendary Times) but what I want to know is: Has Erich von Dänkien seen Indy 4? If so, what did he think of it?
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Wow man, they're like dudes from the future sent back to show us the way!
Funny you say that, Smiff, because last month, an episode of "Ancient Aliens" was called "The Time Travelers" (Season 4 - Episode 9). Both von Däniken and Tsoulakos were on it (as usual) and von Däniken believes in time travel. He also speculates that UFOs might be "our own people of the future"!
In that same episode, the Dogon dudes were mentioned again.
It is known that Giorgio Tsoukalos has seen & liked "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" (he said so when posting here at The Raven with the username, Legendary Times)...
The "Ancient Mysteries Expert" woz 'ere?
I just checked and it appears he mysteriously vanished in June 2008.
Maybe he knows where the little grey buggers took Matt deMille.
Yeah, awhile back I actually responded to his last post, only to embarrassingly see that he had left months ago.
It's pretty funny that he posted here, though when I think about the guy I inevitably think of how mind-numbingly sad the state of the History Channel is these days.
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Maybe he knows where the little grey buggers took Matt deMille.
Matt deMille might be on the mothership having a close encounter of the 4th kind.
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It's pretty funny that he posted here, though when I think about the guy I inevitably think of how mind-numbingly sad the state of the History Channel is these days.
Of all the outrageous things this Giorgio has said on the show, one thing in "The Time Travelers" episode about the Large Hadron Collider near Geneva gave me hearty chuckle (because of how serious he looked when he said it).
Giorgio A. Tsoukalos:
"If you place a picture side-by-side of the Hadron Collider and the Aztec calendar, there is an eerie similarity between the two. The Aztec calendar was known to be a gateway to the universe and the Hadron Collider is similar to that because we are trying to unlock the secrets of the universe with this machine. And I find it fascintating that we have a carving from a long time ago and when compared to the modern-day Hadron Collider, there is an eerie similarity. Is it coincidence? I think not."
Of all the outrageous things this Giorgio has said on the show, one thing in "The Time Travelers" episode about the Large Hadron Collider near Geneva gave me hearty chuckle (because of how serious he looked when he said it).
Giorgio A. Tsoukalos:
"If you place a picture side-by-side of the Hadron Collider and the Aztec calendar, there is an eerie similarity between the two. The Aztec calendar was known to be a gateway to the universe and the Hadron Collider is similar to that because we are trying to unlock the secrets of the universe with this machine. And I find it fascintating that we have a carving from a long time ago and when compared to the modern-day Hadron Collider, there is an eerie similarity. Is it coincidence? I think not."
Nope. I can't spot the difference. You'll have to point out the Collider. (I said he was a genius!)
Wow! Because they both have concentric circles, they must be related!
Oh, look! I found this random image on Google Image search! Clearly the ancient Mesoamericans knew from their alien masters that someday some CEOs would be bored to death by physical data security policy graphs during Powerpoint presentations . . .
I'm not saying Mr. Tsoukalos IS right (and I still don't get the hair and beard thing), but when I look over this thread, I just mainly see a bunch of squares happily dwelling within the box. Remember, DON'T STRAY FROM THE HEARD!
I'm not saying Mr. Tsoukalos IS right (and I still don't get the hair and beard thing), but when I look over this thread, I just mainly see a bunch of squares happily dwelling within the box. Remember, DON'T STRAY FROM THE HEARD!
Some things are just too silly to accept. The promoters of the weird and the wonderful are in it for the money, or the buzz of being controversial. Just ask von Däniken, who admitted he fabricated evidence to strengthen the 'truth' of his argument!
Conspiracy sells! Because folks love a mystery and the chance to believe that history, and indeed the present, is more exciting than it appears on the surface.
The rewriting of history often overturns physical evidence and supplants it with supposition. These fabricators will look for connections anywhere and make them.
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I'm not saying Mr. Tsoukalos IS right (and I still don't get the hair and beard thing), but when I look over this thread, I just mainly see a bunch of squares happily dwelling within the box. Remember, DON'T STRAY FROM THE HEARD!
Personally, I try to have an open mind towards the subject but the main proponent of this thread, Matt deMille, didn't do a very good job of supporting his arguments. (As for Giorgio, he makes ancient alien connections everywhere & ANYWHERE!)
Gear, what is your take on the Dogon tribe and their knowledge of the Sirius star system?
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Nope. I can't spot the difference. You'll have to point out the Collider.
The Hadron Collider is the image on the right.
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Oh, look! I found this random image on Google Image search! Clearly the ancient Mesoamericans knew from their alien masters that someday some CEOs would be bored to death by physical data security policy graphs during Powerpoint presentations . . .
"Is it coincidence? I think not."
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I caught Giorgio A. Tsoukalos lecture last weekend at X-Con 2012. It was entertaining.
Entertaining in a fascinating way or in a comedic way? What did he talk about?
I'm not saying Mr. Tsoukalos IS right (and I still don't get the hair and beard thing), but when I look over this thread, I just mainly see a bunch of squares happily dwelling within the box. Remember, DON'T STRAY FROM THE HEARD!
If the "box" is "logic and common sense," then goddamn right I'm a happy square in the "HEARD."
"Entertaining in a fascinating way or in a comedic way? What did he talk about?" from Stoo.
Both... He did a Q&A style lecture. The first question was "If aliens had multiple hearts do you think they would be more compassionate" I thought Giorgio's head was going to explode. Most of the rest seemed a lot like his shtick from the TV show. I must admit I am a skeptic. Mr. Tsoulkalos is convinced and also very convincing.
Gear, what is your take on the Dogon tribe and their knowledge of the Sirius star system?
Sorry to keep you in suspense for such a boring answer, but I don't know enough about the Dogon to really have an opinion. So, in other words; aliens.
But seriously now, the Dogons' accounts DO correlate with other 'primitive' tribes around the world. Some Native American tribes have stories of 'star beings' visiting them and sharing knowledge, as do some tribes native to Australia, for starts. Of course, this doesn't definitively mean any one thing, but, well, I don't much believe in coincidence.
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(As for Giorgio, he makes ancient alien connections everywhere & ANYWHERE!)
Have you seen the recent Ancient Aliens Thanksgiving episode of South Park? Lulz.
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Some things are just too silly to accept. The promoters of the weird and the wonderful are in it for the money, or the buzz of being controversial.
I think that's a bit of a narrow-minded response, I say running the risk of sounding like a rosy-eyed neo hippie. I do agree that everything should be taken with a grain of salt, and I'm not standing in line to pay $20 to listen to some guy talk for an hour about aliens being the baby daddy, but many things that sounded silly yesterday don't seem so today.
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If the "box" is "logic and common sense," then goddamn right I'm a happy square in the "HEARD."
Is it funny of it's aliens they only helped with little stuff? I mean why not give them pens and paper to write, give them power so they can light up the homes. Why just show them how to move rocks. Give them soap, toothpaste, or drugs to fight sickness.
You're reasoning is completely logical, ditto. The aliens
probably couldn't even build spacecraft ( let alone fly it to
Earth) if all they could show early man is how to push a
rock!!
The idea isn't that any extraterrestrial beings taught humans how to move rocks around, but partially the theory that they taught these people how to align their structures with stellar ones, for specific reasons.
Two things I would like to tell those guys on Ancient Aliens
First off I would say to them paraphrasing Sir Richard Colt Hoare "I speak from facts not theory"
Second SHUT THE HELL UP not everything our ancestors did can be attributed to little grey and green guys I think they need to watch ancient discoveries and engineering an empire to see how all those great monuments and techno stuff was done. Von Daniken and all the rest of those yahoos on that show with a few exceptions dont wish to give our ancestors any credit. I also like what Aristotle said and I quote " A likely impossibility is always preferable to a unconvincing possibilitie" I am unconvinced that ET came down and effected our development a good plot for Quatermass and the Pit but not a very viable idea about mans development I would put more faith in what Oxely said in Crystal Skull "Not extraterrestrial pandimensional to be precise. To be honest I think that if any ET or Extra Dimensional travelers would show up they would do a Jane Goodal and just watch record and never interfere but enough on that I am glad I am able to get back to the raven for a while Missed you guys
I've always been on the fence about the ancient alien theory. I agree with China Jim that we don't give enough credit to our ancient ancestors because recent discoveries continue to reshape our knowledge of their ingenuity. We are also constantly having to admit that man developed much earlier than previously believed. But let's not be closed minded here and at least ponder the other mysteries for which science can't even chance a guess. Sites like Puma Punco defy all logic. The stones are perfect, identical, puzzle shapes that even the most skilled stone cutter in the world admits he couldn't replicate or even attempt. The stone is of the hardest variety on earth and can only be shaped with a diamond-tipped cutter. There is a good theory that the stone walls throughout the Pacific side of South America could have been shaped by super-heating them, but there has been no evidence of any smelting factories. Only a loose legend remains that the Incas perhaps understood how to "soften stone". Sacsahuaman has a stone carving called the Great Idol that really needs to be studied further. This 24' long 20-ton stone makes an account of how our moon was created. It claims that a satelite was pulled down by the Earth's gravity and disentegrated to become the moon. Symbols record that this new moon was making 425 revolutions around the Earth annually in a year with 288 days, occuring around 2700 years ago. Astronomers are only now beginning to agree on the origin of our moon and it is surprisingly agreeable with the account on the Great Idol. Whether you believe in aliens or not, the Great Idol is awe-inspiring. The famous Piri Reis maps show a perpsective of an aerial photo directly above the pyramids. The outer land masses on these maps are oblong just as they would appear when viewing the world from the air. I agree that simply moving stones around seems to be a mute skill for aliens to teach ancient man, so I am forced to scratch my head when I try to wrap my mind around the theory that man, barely out of caves, could suddenly build these structures all over the world.