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Old 08-07-2017, 12:05 PM   #201
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It's been clear to me for years that Spielberg doesn't hold Indy in as high a priority as he used to. If this film, along with KOTCS, had really been a priority then we would have had them many years ago.

Not really true. When KOTCS was made, George Lucas owned the IP. If Lucas said no to an idea, Spielberg had to accept it. KOTCS took so long to make because Lucas and Spielberg couldn't come to an agreement on a script, and also Spielberg had to make compromises to get KOTCS made IE he wouldn't do an alien story outright (the original 1995 script is basically a total sci-fi movie) but the Skull angle, and the search for the Lost City angle, put enough of an Indy feel to it for him to do it. But ulimately Lucas had final say over everything. Spielberg was ready to do it in around 2002 or so - when the City of Gods script was written - Lucas said no to that script so it was back to the drawing board.

As far as this film, Lucas sold it in 2012 and Disney only greenlit a new Indy film last year.

Spielberg has never had any legal controlling interest in Indy. The fact that Lucas even allowed him the freedoms he had creatively was because of their friendship. Lucas/Disney own the franchise and make the call to him and tell him they want to do another Indy movie. Not the other way around.

If Spielberg had been okay with a totally sci-fi Indy movie, we would've had Indy 4 in 1996 or 1997. If Lucas hadn't been so stubborn about the script, we would've had one in 2004 or 2005.
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Old 08-07-2017, 01:02 PM   #202
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Lucas telling autograph hunters to go get a job or beg tells you all you need to know about how he feels to this day even though his net worth is circa $7 Billion I doubt Indy 5 is a priority to him but Spielberg said a while ago he would not do it without Lucas involvement after they announced it so its still in limbo most likely!
http://www.tmz.com/2017/07/14/george...ograph-hounds/
http://www.tmz.com/2017/06/27/george...ers-get-a-job/
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Old 08-07-2017, 02:08 PM   #203
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What Spielberg said was that George would serve as Executive Producer, but that could be little more than an honorary title depending on how involved George wants to be, which is by every indication not much.

The way I'm reading it is that Spielberg doesn't want to make it behind George's back or without his blessing. But George can always say, "You have my blessing, and I'm going play video games in my underwear."
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Old 08-07-2017, 03:42 PM   #204
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Lucas telling autograph hunters
He's just trying to sneak between a latrine and a dumpster and through rude throngs to get back to retirement. Ford said about as much on Letterman a few years back. Perhaps The Terminal should have ended with the jazz musician chewing out Tom Hanks for wasting a year of his own life?

Spielberg and Koepp have stated they're getting the band back together and Lucas still gets paid. The release is delayed but not necessarily filming. Probably so Lucasfilm can stick the landing with Star Wars 9 then concentrate elsewhere.
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Old 08-12-2017, 05:02 AM   #205
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www.IndianaJones.com

There is an official release date given for Indiana Jones 5, but the domain www.indianajones.com is still linked to the poorly maintained facebook-Indiana Jones-Page.

I have a real bad feeling about this!

If I was a production company of such a franchise, I would show more appreciation. I think Indiana Jones receives too little attention by Disney, for believing me that they are really interested to realize Indiana Jones 5.
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:46 AM   #206
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I wouldn't take that as a sign of anything. There is nothing to hawk at the moment.
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Old 08-12-2017, 06:53 PM   #207
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I'd actually be more worried if the domain just went to some godaddy "domain for sale" screen or a "page cannot be displayed." The fact that they have it redirecting to another site is usually a sign that they are working on a full blown website in the background and have the redirect as a temporary situation until the real site is ready to go live.

Lucasfilm does have their own Indiana Jones page at http://lucasfilm.com/indiana-jones where they have sections for all 4 movies as well as the Young Indy series. The official release date is still July 10,2020 and unless that changes, I'm not going to worry about it.
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Old 08-24-2017, 11:51 PM   #208
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John Williams "teases" Indy 5:

http://www.masslive.com/entertainmen...indiana_j.html
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Old 08-25-2017, 02:48 PM   #209
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Tease is sort of a stretch.

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The 85-year-old composer said he was hopeful he would be on hand to write the score, a remark that drew cheers from the throng of 18,000 that packed the Koussevitzky Music Shed and filled the Lenox lawn.

As pop was found of saying, hope in one hand, **** in the other, see which gets filled faster.
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Old 08-26-2017, 11:08 AM   #210
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Honestly, I feel John Williams should be replaced. He hasn't really hit it out of the ballpark with a soundtrack since Jurassic Park...A good score is a big part of an Indy movie. I think a younger hand should be given a try.
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Old 08-26-2017, 11:24 AM   #211
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Honestly, I feel John Williams should be replaced. He hasn't really hit it out of the ballpark with a soundtrack since Jurassic Park...A good score is a big part of an Indy movie. I think a younger hand should be given a try.
Sadly I think I agree that giving composing duties to someone new might be the right way to go. Williams haven't delivered a great soundtrack in quite a while I think (at least of the ones I've heard, not seen all recent Spielberg movies).
He does show signs of greatness still. though, Rey's theme from Force Awakens is one of his recent good ones I think.

Crystal Skull's score was criminally boring sadly, nothing memorable about it, even the Raiders theme felt poorly used in that movie.
Indy needs a melodic memorable rousing soundtrack!
Of course, I hope his surprises us with a great Indy 5 score, fingers crossed!
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Old 08-26-2017, 12:27 PM   #212
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The theme of this installment is or should be that it's the last hurrah for the old team. For better or for worse, I want all of the usual players who want to return to do so.
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Old 08-26-2017, 01:37 PM   #213
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John Williams IS Indiana Jones it would not be the same movie without him or Michael Kahn editing either! To suggest anyone else is heresy KOTCS was a fantastic score perhaps the doubters need a new set of ears instead!
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Old 08-26-2017, 02:25 PM   #214
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A weak John Williams score better than 95% of whatever forgettable scores modern Hollywood is throwing out there. The fact he is talking about Indy 5 should enhearten anyone.

That being said, he apparently started composing The Last Jedi in 2016, which is super early, but I'm sure it was they didn't want to take any risks with his health.

Hard to compose anything for Indiana Jones 5 if they don't even have a script ready, but when they do I hope they start to collaborate with him right away and at least create themes. Not that it's impossible he'll survive the year 2020, but it is always dangerous to assume anything of that nature.
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Old 08-30-2017, 06:52 AM   #215
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John Williams IS Indiana Jones it would not be the same movie without him or Michael Kahn editing either! To suggest anyone else is heresy KOTCS was a fantastic score perhaps the doubters need a new set of ears instead!
Again as with the Star Wars scores people compare a film score they've hardly heard to those scores that we've had nearly 40 years to become accustomed to. Its a tough standard hes got to live up to.
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Old 09-04-2017, 08:02 AM   #216
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Koepp says "we've got a script we're mostly happy with" and is hoping Spielberg chooses to shoot it as his next project.

http://ew.com/movies/2017/09/04/indi...not-returning/
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Old 09-04-2017, 08:28 AM   #217
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Koepp says "we've got a script we're mostly happy with" and is hoping Spielberg chooses to shoot it as his next project.

http://ew.com/movies/2017/09/04/indi...not-returning/
"mostly happy with" does not inspire me with much confidence about the project
What I wanted to hear is "we've got a script we're thrilled about"
Though he does say work is ongoing but still, not the words I was hoping for.
They've had years to write this thing and still they're not completely happy?

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Old 09-04-2017, 08:39 AM   #218
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I think it is clear enough in the context of the article that he simply means they are not quite finished. The takeaway is he believes they are close enough that he would be comfortable with production happening soon.
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Old 09-04-2017, 11:02 AM   #219
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Koepp says "we've got a script we're mostly happy with" and is hoping Spielberg chooses to shoot it as his next project.

http://ew.com/movies/2017/09/04/indi...not-returning/


All I heard was 'no shia' and that makes me happy.
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Old 09-04-2017, 02:59 PM   #220
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All I heard was 'no shia' and that makes me happy.

I'm fine with him not being in the movie, I just hope that he'll get a passing mention and I seriously will be disappointed if Marion is not in the movie.
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Old 09-04-2017, 05:17 PM   #221
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The best thing to do is kill Mutt off.

An old, grieving, retired Indy is the perfect premise for a story in which he reluctantly accepts "one last job", in view of the importance/power of the macguffin, and the risk of it falling in the wrong hands.

Raise the stakes right from the start, unlike the lame KOTCS.

Then have Indy find out that Mutt was killed by the same baddie(s) who is (are) after the macguffin as the climax of act II, so in the final confrontation he can both save the world and avenge his son.
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Old 09-04-2017, 07:40 PM   #222
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What are he chances this will be Spielbergs next film? Could the release date be moved back up if so?
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Old 09-04-2017, 07:41 PM   #223
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Koepp says "we've got a script we're mostly happy with" and is hoping Spielberg chooses to shoot it as his next project.

http://ew.com/movies/2017/09/04/indi...not-returning/
just read this I love that were getting closer I take it the were mostly happy with the script line basically means were mostly done with the script but we still have some work to do. at least I hope that's what it means but all in all encouraging news hopefully Indy 5 Is Spielberg's next film he shoots...
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Old 09-04-2017, 08:06 PM   #224
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just read this I love that were getting closer I take it the were mostly happy with the script line basically means were mostly done with the script but we still have some work to do. at least I hope that's what it means but all in all encouraging news hopefully Indy 5 Is Spielberg's next film he shoots...

They have the artifact figured out they said too...so likely we could have the title this time next year?
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Old 09-05-2017, 02:52 AM   #225
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They should just ignore Mutt do not even mention him again. I was not bothered about Shia in KOTCS he did ok but was also a disposable character. Lets face it if the actor did not insult Spielberg then he would have been in Indy 5 but I am sure Spielberg will find plenty of willing actors to have that quality screen time with Harrison instead!

Still until this is shooting I am not holding my breath though other high profile films have been cancelled closer to production than this. Hopefully Blade Runner 2049 confirms Harrison's box office draw next month then I think Indy 5 will start shooting early 2018 with pre production late 2017
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