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Old 07-24-2018, 11:32 PM   #1
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Why did Harrison decline as a star between 2001 and 2015?

In the 80s and 90s, Harrison was at the very top of the A-List in Hollywood, starring in hit after hit. He had only two lesser grossing films in this period, and entered the new millenium with What Lies Beneath, a commercial if not critical hit. But besides KOTCS, Harrison seemed to have fallen into a slump in the 00s and 10s, falling deeper into commercial failure as an actor until TFA revived his career.

My question is, why? Was it poor movie choices? Ford fatigue? Or what?
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Old 07-24-2018, 11:47 PM   #2
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All I know is he is probably my all time favorite actor. It doesn't matter what movie he is in, there is at least one moment where I find myself laughing because of something he said that I found funny in the way he said it.
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In the 80s and 90s, Harrison was at the very top of the A-List in Hollywood, starring in hit after hit. He had only two lesser grossing films in this period, and entered the new millenium with What Lies Beneath, a commercial if not critical hit. But besides KOTCS, Harrison seemed to have fallen into a slump in the 00s and 10s, falling deeper into commercial failure as an actor until TFA revived his career.

My question is, why? Was it poor movie choices? Ford fatigue? Or what?

Most likely the alcohol, if not the weed.
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Old 07-25-2018, 04:10 AM   #4
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Very few actors can continue their career into their sixties, especially when they are known for playing action heroes. The fact that Harrison Ford is still around, and had never declined in my view, is the exception.
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Old 07-25-2018, 08:36 AM   #5
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The OP has a funny conception of Mr. Ford's career, if he thinks TFA "revived" it. Looking at his filmography, one could argue he's never ceased to be an A-lister, and even if he did, the spell certainly didn't last all the way to 2015.

Ford's rock bottom was arguably between 2002 and 2008. After starring in the K-19 Widowmaker in 2002, he did only two movies between the years mentioned, Hollywood Homicide (2003) and Firewall (2006), both of which were considered not very good.

If there was a year that could be considered a "rise back to stardom" (if he ever lost it), it was 2008, when he starred in what was his last movie where he was the undisputed leading man, and also what's been his biggest BO hit to date in such a role (at least as far as the raw numbers are considered, since it's often been said we should look past those, with good reason). And the movie? Well, I think everyone who stumbles upon this thread should know what it is.

Since then, Ford has mostly starred in a continuous string of respectable movies, both critically and commercially (Morning Glory, Cowboys & Aliens, 42, The Age of Adaline), though maybe they weren't huge hits and one could say he's never got back to where he was in the 90s. His last top billing was Crossing Over in 2009, but that was an episodic movie, so we could say his final leading role - to date at least - is that little movie we don't talk about.

In fact, it's down right hilarious to say his career was "revived" by TFA, given the friggin' sample size following the piece, which to date consists of Blade Runner 2049. And even that piece, while a critical success, was a BO failure. (Incidentally, just like the original.) Not to mention despite using Ford's presence heavily in marketing, neither film itself was a vehicle built around him. Heh, following TFA, Ford's even done voice work, in LEGO Star Wars - The Force Awakens video game, and in the upcoming The Secret Life of Pets 2, and such work is not generally considered a sign that an actor's career is going uphill. Though this might be another piece of intellectual dishonesty, since the respectability of such work has improved, along with its production values.

While we can say that Mr. Ford's star did sink a bit coming into the new millennium, it never sunk to a level requiring a "revival". And the reason for the initial sinking is simple - he aged. And before somebody gets his knickers in a twist, let it be said that there's nothing dramatic about it. He simply hit the typical career bump various other A-listers have when they reach their mid-50s. That's when producers start looking for younger stars for their biggest blockbusters. Yet it doesn't make the previous top dogs Hollywood pariahs. They still keep receiving work, and it's good, respectable work - and sometimes they even get top billings - but the glory days are gone.
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I think Ford's name still draws a crowd and a sizable amount of respect. He did take some pretty bizarre and bad roles throughout the 2000's, but Ford is also someone who takes roles that interest him, even if they're not the most popular. I think he's still doing incredibly well and most people I talk with still like him. It's only natural that age will diminish some of that star power but he's done better than many others in the same position.

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I blame the earring.









Seriously though: great post Finn.
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I blame the earring.

Seriously though: great post Finn.

I agree all around
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Seriously though: great post Finn.

Absolutely.....
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The OP has a funny conception of Mr. Ford's career, if he thinks TFA "revived" it. Looking at his filmography, one could argue he's never ceased to be an A-lister, and even if he did, the spell certainly didn't last all the way to 2015.

Ford's rock bottom was arguably between 2002 and 2008. After starring in the K-19 Widowmaker in 2002, he did only two movies between the years mentioned, Hollywood Homicide (2003) and Firewall (2006), both of which were considered not very good.

If there was a year that could be considered a "rise back to stardom" (if he ever lost it), it was 2008, when he starred in what was his last movie where he was the undisputed leading man, and also what's been his biggest BO hit to date in such a role (at least as far as the raw numbers are considered, since it's often been said we should look past those, with good reason). And the movie? Well, I think everyone who stumbles upon this thread should know what it is.

Since then, Ford has mostly starred in a continuous string of respectable movies, both critically and commercially (Morning Glory, Cowboys & Aliens, 42, The Age of Adaline), though maybe they weren't huge hits and one could say he's never got back to where he was in the 90s. His last top billing was Crossing Over in 2009, but that was an episodic movie, so we could say his final leading role - to date at least - is that little movie we don't talk about.

In fact, it's down right hilarious to say his career was "revived" by TFA, given the friggin' sample size following the piece, which to date consists of Blade Runner 2049. And even that piece, while a critical success, was a BO failure. (Incidentally, just like the original.) Not to mention despite using Ford's presence heavily in marketing, neither film itself was a vehicle built around him. Heh, following TFA, Ford's even done voice work, in LEGO Star Wars - The Force Awakens video game, and in the upcoming The Secret Life of Pets 2, and such work is not generally considered a sign that an actor's career is going uphill. Though this might be another piece of intellectual dishonesty, since the respectability of such work has improved, along with its production values.

While we can say that Mr. Ford's star did sink a bit coming into the new millennium, it never sunk to a level requiring a "revival". And the reason for the initial sinking is simple - he aged. And before somebody gets his knickers in a twist, let it be said that there's nothing dramatic about it. He simply hit the typical career bump various other A-listers have when they reach their mid-50s. That's when producers start looking for younger stars for their biggest blockbusters. Yet it doesn't make the previous top dogs Hollywood pariahs. They still keep receiving work, and it's good, respectable work - and sometimes they even get top billings - but the glory days are gone.
Pretty much seconded entirely. Raiders, I don't know why you perceive Harrison's career as tumbling downhill for fourteen years. Most of the movies he was in post-CS have done quite well at the box office, and were at least somewhat enjoyable.
(By the way, I was watching Hollywood Homicide last night to torture myself, and I must say that this scene was unequivocally the lowest of his career:
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And for the people who say HF can't act, just look at the determination in this scene. It's the only part of the movie that made me laugh, mostly out of sheer disbelief/amusement.
Is Indy's earring canon, now?
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