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Old 06-22-2016, 11:02 AM   #1
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Reboot after Indy 5?

Indy 5 won't be the last movie...

Also from that article it seems like they may want a reboot on some level. Passing of the torch seems more likely.
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Old 06-22-2016, 11:22 AM   #2
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Iger: reboot after V?

Disney CEO Suggests Indiana Jones Will Be Rebooted After Part 5
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Old 06-22-2016, 12:40 PM   #3
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Backtracking that one to the source, here's the relevant part of the interview. Disney's Bob Iger in italics.

And the link: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/fea...ar-wars-905320

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You have another Lucasfilm property, Indiana Jones, and Steven Spielberg has agreed to make a fifth film. Will there be an Indiana Jones universe, eventually, like Star Wars?

Not like Star Wars, no. But we hope right now, we're focused on a reboot, or a continuum and then a reboot of some sort.

Reboot? You've got Harrison Ford for this movie, and then the presumption is there will be a younger

Well, we'll bring him back, then we have to figure out what comes next. That's what I mean. It's not really a reboot, it's a boot a reboot. I don't know.

THR has been using the term "requel" for these sequels that reboot the franchise.

Requel. (Laughs.) We [got] Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones in the film. But then what's the direction? I've had discussions about what the direction is, [but] I don't want to get into it.

But you do see making more films?

Yes, I do. I don't think it reaches the scale of the universe of Star Wars, but I see making more. It won't be just a one-off.
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Old 06-22-2016, 12:46 PM   #4
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Well, we always knew that Disney did not buy the IP just to make one last movie.
And since Ford cannot keep playing Indy forever, they will recast the role at some point.

At this stage, the only open question is: will the new actor already be introduced in the next movie in flashback scenes?
The boot/reboot/requel discussion with Iger doesn't really shed any light on that.

Maybe they simply haven't made their mind up yet?
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Old 06-22-2016, 01:33 PM   #5
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Was he drunk when he made that statement? "We're not going to reboot, we're going to boot".

Honestly, I trust George Lucas a lot more than Disney.
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Old 06-22-2016, 01:44 PM   #6
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No surprise there. It's absolutely bound to happen.
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Old 06-22-2016, 02:26 PM   #7
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Was he drunk when he made that statement? "We're not going to reboot, we're going to boot".

Honestly, I trust George Lucas a lot more than Disney.

Yeah Ive seen more then one person on social media ask that about this comment there..
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Old 06-22-2016, 03:08 PM   #8
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I think he's struggling to find a term for "recast prequel". It seems the zeitgeist acknowledges "sequel" implying same continuity and actors, and "reboot" implying a new continuity and actors, but there is no concise, popular term for what shared continuity with new actors would be because is doesn't happen often. And people hate big words/complex phrases.
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Old 06-22-2016, 04:00 PM   #9
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I just hope they leave Indy 5 to Ford and focus on whatever they're gonna do with the series next for the next movie.
It's really hard to get a grip on what Iger is trying to really say here.
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Old 06-22-2016, 04:31 PM   #10
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Fine by me Harrison IS the character. Lucas & Spielberg created the franchise its not viable without all 3 in their usual positions so it will not be Indiana Jones anymore just like Star Wars is now Disney's Star Wars themed mishmash!!
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Old 06-22-2016, 04:48 PM   #11
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" it's a boot " means its just another Ford Indy5 movie. Iger was talking about after Ford's Indy movie if you re-read the context of the interview.
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Old 06-22-2016, 07:59 PM   #12
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Could his confusing comments mean they are getting rid of some of Indy IV's canon?
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Old 06-22-2016, 08:51 PM   #13
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Could his confusing comments mean they are getting rid of some of Indy IV's canon?

Um, no... Why would they?

He's clearly unsure about how to word what he means, meaning it isn't as simple as a re-cast or a reboot. What he must mean is something in the middle. Basically, he's doing what any smart person would: they're going to cast a new, younger Indiana Jones for the next film, but keep it in the same continuity. The new adventures will be set in and around the existing films/TV films and (hopefully) novels. I'd hate to see any of the Bantam novels be thoroughly invalidated.
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Old 06-22-2016, 10:15 PM   #14
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Was he drunk when he made that statement? "We're not going to reboot, we're going to boot".

Honestly, I trust George Lucas a lot more than Disney.

That. Totally.
Keep the guys from Disney the farthest away possible from EVERYTHING Lucasfilm related. EVERYTHING.

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About the words of Bob Iger, it's pretty clear that they are a little confused, but I think he simply meant that they have plans to sort of reboot the series while also continuing it... that basically means that this new movie will most certainly serve as a launchpad for some new character(s) that are then going to take the lead for the subsequent films and so on.
A passing of the torch, as some said.
Indy will be the protagonist, but he will also be paired with someone else to continue the series within the same canon afterwards. Not so convinced about this, but it could work.

Still much prefer the idea of a movie set in the 1945 / 1957 timeframe.

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Old 06-22-2016, 10:30 PM   #15
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Fine by me Harrison IS the character. Lucas & Spielberg created the franchise its not viable without all 3 in their usual positions so it will not be Indiana Jones anymore just like Star Wars is now Disney's Star Wars themed mishmash!!

So. Freaking. True.

Let's hope not. With Lucas somehow involved, there's still a chance the movie will be decent at least.
But I'm very concerned about Koepp, 'cause he CLEARLY ain't the right man for the task.
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Old 06-22-2016, 10:34 PM   #16
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That. Totally.
Keep the guys from Disney the farthest away possible from EVERYTHING Lucasfilm related. EVERYTHING.

_________________________________

About the words of Bob Iger, it's pretty clear that they are a little confused, but I think he simply meant that they have plans to sort of reboot the series while also continuing it... that basically means that this new movie will most certainly serve as a launchpad for some new character(s) that are then going to take the lead for the subsequent films and so on.
A passing of the torch, as some said.
Indy will be the protagonist, but he will also be paired with someone else to continue the series within the same canon afterwards. Not so convinced about this, but it could work.

Still much prefer the idea of a movie set in the 1945 / 1957 timeframe.
Disney did a great Job with TFA and Pixar Is Still great And I loved the Muppets 2011 and Muppets Most Wanted and the Muppets Show on ABC that only lasted a season was awesome!
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Old 06-22-2016, 11:37 PM   #17
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No surprise there. It's absolutely bound to happen.

Indeed, Disney wants to keep this franchise going for a good long while.
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Old 06-23-2016, 05:42 AM   #18
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I think he's struggling to find a term for "recast prequel". It seems the zeitgeist acknowledges "sequel" implying same continuity and actors, and "reboot" implying a new continuity and actors, but there is no concise, popular term for what shared continuity with new actors would be because is doesn't happen often. And people hate big words/complex phrases.
This is most likely it. Could be that he's also unsure what to call it because of TFA. While it's a direct sequel to the two trilogies that exist, they did wipe out a lot of EU continuity... so he's probably already had to wonder what that should be called.

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About the words of Bob Iger, it's pretty clear that they are a little confused, but I think he simply meant that they have plans to sort of reboot the series while also continuing it... that basically means that this new movie will most certainly serve as a launchpad for some new character(s) that are then going to take the lead for the subsequent films and so on.
A passing of the torch, as some said.
Indy will be the protagonist, but he will also be paired with someone else to continue the series within the same canon afterwards. Not so convinced about this, but it could work.
This is most likely not it. Because - simply put - Indiana Jones is not Star Wars. With Star Wars, the universe is the franchise. With Indiana Jones, the character is the franchise. Making more "Indiana Jones" films means they must feature the character of Indiana Jones. If that's not the case, they could just grab any other IP and retool it, or come up with a completely new one.

Whatever comes of the IP after the beards are gone, there's still nothing sillier than hoping Disney should stay far away from it. After all, the films that follow, be they good or bad, do not in any way invalidate the works of the original crew. Just like KotCS did not invalidate the three very good films that preceded it.
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Old 06-23-2016, 08:11 AM   #19
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So. Freaking. True.

Let's hope not. With Lucas somehow involved, there's still a chance the movie will be decent at least.
But I'm very concerned about Koepp, 'cause he CLEARLY ain't the right man for the task.
Koepp is just joining together the story points Spielberg/Lucas give him though its not like he is asked to contribute much beyond that & putting some story structure in. I think Kasdan went over KOTCS to make it sound a bit more Indy like he will most likely do the same on Indy 5.

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Disney did a great Job with TFA and Pixar Is Still great And I loved the Muppets 2011 and Muppets Most Wanted and the Muppets Show on ABC that only lasted a season was awesome!
TFA was utterly terrible though Disney ruined Star Wars legacy. Harrison was the only decent thing in it if that is how Disney treat Star Wars I think Indy6 will get the same treatment from some other hack like JJ.

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Old 06-23-2016, 08:14 AM   #20
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This is most likely not it. Because - simply put - Indiana Jones is not Star Wars. With Star Wars, the universe is the franchise. With Indiana Jones, the character is the franchise. Making more "Indiana Jones" films means they must feature the character of Indiana Jones. If that's not the case, they could just grab any other IP and retool it, or come up with a completely new one.

Technically, I think the concept was initially about the "Raiders of the lost..."

The whole "Indiana Jones and..." came after, and it was mainly due to the popularity of the character and the obvious success of the first movie.
To have some new sidekicks that could bring on other adventures while still keeping the original doctor Jones in the continuity may be the easiest way for them to accomodate things, as of now. I'd say not many people would buy a recast, considering that we've already had a trilogy of films with the "original" Indy, and Harrison Ford will still take the role for the movie anyway.

I am not so convinced about this possibility, but I would definitely not rule it out.
Still too early to speculate. It may simply be that Bob Iger just don't have an idea what the real definitive plans are.

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TFA was utterly terrible though Disney ruined Star Wars legacy. Harrison was the only decent thing in it if that is how Disney treat Star Wars I think Indy6 will get the same treatment from some other hack like JJ.

I completely second that. I respect J.J. Abrams, and think he has made some very good movies in his career. But he definitely dropped the ball bad with that film. Worst high profile blockbuster of the last 40 years of moviemaking if you ask me. It's on the same league as Prometheus. A total disaster. Really.

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Old 06-23-2016, 10:10 AM   #21
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You TFA haters are hilarious. You make it sound like the apocalypse has arrived.
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Old 06-23-2016, 10:22 AM   #22
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I'd say not many people would buy a recast, considering that we've already had a trilogy of films with the "original" Indy
Complete nonsense.

Disney are in this for the long term and plan to make plenty of $$$ out of their purchase.
They definitely won't care about the tiny, shrinking pool of old time fans who only want to see Ford in the main role.

After Ford bows out in the next movie, Disney will focus primarily on their target audience, most of whom barely know who the old geezer is.

Even here at the Raven, at least half of all active posters support a recast, including most of the mods.
Ultimately it's about caring for the character, and not the actor.

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You TFA haters are hilarious. You make it sound like the apocalypse has arrived.
I agree.

And have you noticed how in most cases TFA haters = KOTCS lovers?

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Old 06-23-2016, 11:03 AM   #23
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Even here at the Raven, at least half of all active posters support a recast, including most of the mods.
It's pretty much a stance one has to have when agreeing to take the job. After all, you're looking forward to managing an active fan community, not curating a museum piece.
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And have you noticed how in most cases TFA haters = KOTCS lovers?

Never noticed at all, really. I loved both.
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Old 06-23-2016, 09:54 PM   #25
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Idk, I think Harrison Ford has always been a big part of what's made Indiana Jones, Indiana Jones. But that's just silly old me. It's not like the guy starred in thus far all of the Indy films and so is the only relevant actor to play the role or anything. Not at all. Recasting that hack should be easier than anything. This is a new, digital age. We need a black, gay, transgender Indiana Jones.
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