CS Haters Thread: Things you actually LIKE about it

Goodeknight

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Rocket Surgeon said:
Sorry about that chief!:eek:

Not necessary from you, Rocket.

Rocket Surgeon said:
I can appreciate that aliens make it more palatable for him...the fact that it's TOO contemporary an idea kills it for me personally.

Not enough dust and a severe lack of mystery.

I agree. And in the context of this thread, "I liked the aliens," would suffice.
 

Udvarnoky

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I maintain that the opening (and I mean up until they enter the warehouse, not the whole prologue) was quite good. I know there are people who will moan about the prairie dog gag or perhaps the "obviousness" of drag-racing teens and "Hound Dog" as our escort into the 50s, but I thought it was a really intriguing intro, with some great desert photography (probably the best of the film's precious little location work) and the threat of some effective atmosphere starting when the vehicles turned at the Atomic Cafe and reached the checkpoint. I also thought Indy being hurled out of the trunk was a great setup.

Part of it, of course, is that so early on in the proceedings there's nothing to screw up yet; it's all still potential with endless possibilities. (I forget the screenwriter, but there's some quote along the lines of, "It's easy to invent a great first ten pages.") Still, I'm not going to diminish the fact that the Nevada establishment was good. Mac and and Spalko had promising introductions, and I was left primed for the ride. Pity the momentum was never really sustained after that.
 

Goodeknight

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Regarding the very beginning, I do like the intro of Indy's beat up hat and the anticipation that follows, waiting for Indy to be on screen again. Great re-intro.

And it bookends with the final scene, of his hat blowing down the isle, to the hopelessly undeserving Mutt. Set up for a biiiig groan from everyone, but Indy isn't ready to let it go just yet. Nice.
 
Yeah, the beginning is great - up to the point where Indy starts to help out the Russians in the warehouse, at which point my brain starts going "What? Eh? What's he doing, what are they on about, whaaaat?".

And then it just gets worse from there.

Zero tension or believability, basically. Absolutely no emotional investment in any of the characters, Indy included. I couldn't care less if any of them died, at any point. And to make matters worse, some of the so called 'good guys' were so annoying, I was actively wanting the Russians to take baseball bats to their stupid grins. Again, that includes Indy himself.

The whole film felt like a giant smugfest. Indiana Jones & The Ooh Look, We've Done Another One!
 

Stoo

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replican't said:
And then it just gets worse from there.
Are you sure about that, Mr. Replic*nt?:confused: You've admitted to enjoying many parts of the movie (and even described one of the worst scenes as, "genius")!:p:gun:
replican't said:
There are LOTS of moments scattered throughout the film that shine like jewels in the night. Sprinkles of Spielberg magic, if you will.
Take the quicksand scene, when Marion tells Indy Mutt is his son and the perilous music thats been swelling around them, well it just.....dies.
Silence. In that vaccuum, you feel the weight of her words on Indy as they sink(!) in, followed by the visual one-two of the ground beneath him
crumbling, the vortex sucking him down further. Genius. Little touches like that are the ones I hang my hat on with happiness.
Where did your love disappear to?:confused:
 
Stoo said:
Are you sure about that, Mr. Replic*nt?:confused: You've admitted to enjoying many parts of the movie (and even described one of the worst scenes as, "genius")!:p:gun:
Where did your love disappear to?:confused:

I was lying to myself and I changed my mind. As an adult human, I am allowed to do that, even if its deemed illegal in internet forum world.

The film is arse. I was caught up in the honeymoon hype at the time of release. But the veil has been lifted and I see it for what it is: arse.
 

Stoo

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replican't said:
I was lying to myself and I changed my mind. As an adult human, I am allowed to do that, even if its deemed illegal in internet forum world.
What happened to the 12-year-old inside of you?:confused:
Indyisreal said:
That "tarzan" scene was a joke. I don`t know not one person over (12 years old) who liked this movie.
replican't said:
'Aint nothing wrong with being a 12 year old now and again.' I said that. I'm 36.
 
Mate, I'm 41 now. Get over it - fans foam at the mouth when their favourites do new stuff, its the nature of the beast. Then the dust settles and the view's clearer.

I dont have to stick to how I first felt that week, and if I did it would be a bit weird, wouldn't it?

The film's crap. In my opinion, of course, but its the only one I set my compass by.
 

Stoo

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replican't said:
I dont have to stick to how I first felt that week, and if I did it would be a bit weird, wouldn't it?
How would sticking to your intial opinion be weird?:confused: You liked it!:whip:

(Oh my G_d! 4 years ago, a person liked something and 4 years later, that same person still likes that same thing! How freaking weird!:eek:)
replican't said:
I really like the new Indiana Jones film.
 

Stoo

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Get over what?:confused: I'm not a big fan of "Skull" either. What's "a bit freakish" is: Continually taking any opportunity to bash the film over & over & over & over & over and making lame jokes about a potential Indy 5...with nothing else (positive or negative) to say about anything else Indy-related.:rolleyes:

Anyway, replican't, you didn't answer the question:
How is it "weird" for someone to stick to their intial opinon?:confused:

You liked the awful, sandpit scene!:eek::sick:
 
Stoo said:
Get over what?:confused: I'm not a big fan of "Skull" either. What's "a bit freakish" is: Continually taking any opportunity to bash the film over & over & over & over & over and making lame jokes about a potential Indy 5...with nothing else (positive or negative) to say about anything else Indy-related.:rolleyes:

Anyway, replican't, you didn't answer the question:
How is it "weird" for someone to stick to their intial opinon?:confused:

You liked the awful, sandpit scene!:eek::sick:

I've explained that I once liked the film in the glow of fanboy delirium after waiting so long for it. Then I woke up and smelled the coffee and the film's massive flaws hit me in the face like a flying fridge. I was deluding myself and drawing petty lines in the sand.

If you can't accept that, that's your issue.

As for it being 'weird' for someone to stick to their initial opinion, well if you truly do still feel exactly the same way now as you did back then - what, 5 years ago? - good for you. But the fluidity of opinion and the changing of views based on experience is far more human a response. If you're still the same person you were then, that's most definitely weird. The dialectic of existence says otherwise.

Anyway, like I said, stop digging up my past posts as a way of denying what I say now. It's sad and stalkerish and, well, a wee bit mental.
 

Stoo

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replican't said:
I've explained that I once liked the film in the glow of fanboy delirium after waiting so long for it. Then I woke up and smelled the coffee and the film's massive flaws hit me in the face like a flying fridge. I was deluding myself and drawing petty lines in the sand.

If you can't accept that, that's your issue.
Yes, you've changed your mind but it's hard to fathom how, back in 2008, you could have felt that the sandpit scene was "genius". Even in the most feverish, fleeting moment of "fanboy delirium", putting that part on a pedestal of praise is positively preposterous!:eek:
replican't said:
As for it being 'weird' for someone to stick to their initial opinion, well if you truly do still feel exactly the same way now as you did back then - what, 5 years ago? - good for you. But the fluidity of opinion and the changing of views based on experience is far more human a response. If you're still the same person you were then, that's most definitely weird. The dialectic of existence says otherwise.
I was indifferent towards "Skull" in 2008 and am still indifferent to it 4 years later. Many people (myself included) loved "Raiders" back in '81 and STILL have the same opinion 31 years later. Yeah, that is MOST DEFINITELY WEIRD.:rolleyes: By your logic, everyone who liked the first 3 movies in the '80s should hate them by now.
replican't said:
Anyway, like I said, stop digging up my past posts as a way of denying what I say now. It's sad and stalkerish and, well, a wee bit mental.
Does it embarass you? By the way, it was someone else who previously did the 'stalking' and gathered up a bunch of posts with your admiration for Indy 4, not me. (I just remember who it was and where to find it.;)) That said, here's another beauty from the pile:
replican't said:
All these hilariously angry, disappointed reviews actually make me wanna go watch the film even more.
You've become one of the "hilariously angry" crowd!:D
 
Nothing embarrasses me.

I was wrong in 2008. Crystal Skull is farts on toast.

I have no issue with admitting these things and holding them up as truths in my universe. Your world is clearly different, but hey, who really cares about you apart from you?

You really can't take this any further, Stoo, so you'd be better off sniffing around other dogs' arses for your next fix.
 
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AndyLGR

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The opening warehouse scene is good after they open the box. Although I felt very disappointed when I saw it was an alien in the box. I didn't associate Indy with aliens at all.

Stoo said:
Yes, you've changed your mind but it's hard to fathom how, back in 2008, you could have felt that the sandpit scene was "genius".
Genius is definitely not something that can be used to describe the quick sand scene. (n)
 

Stoo

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replican't said:
Crystal Skull is farts on toast.
Just like your posts. The stink is overwhelming. Quick! Somebody, open the windows!:sick:
replican't said:
You really can't take this any further, Stoo, so you'd be better off sniffing around other dogs' arses for your next fix.
Please re-visit your own, idiotic thread: Is the Ark real?

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I'm not a hater (nor a lover) but I really liked the magnetic aspect.(y)
 
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