Way of the dodo
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Lots of people didn't like Temple of Doom, but not because of the stones. And eff those people anyway. I just think it's possible to do an Indy movie without a phoney-baloney supernatural artifact at the center.
IndyCon said:PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE LET THERE BE AN INDY 5
I'm praying to the Inter-dimensional Beings that Indiana Jones 5 is made.
He also said a movie about the character Mutt would be completely seperate.
The Man said:Are they willing to accept the voluminous amount of criticism levelled at Skull before they begin this? We need Spielberg - the real Spielberg - to take heed.
Well, I don't see how those two things could in any way get my hopes up for a fifth installment.Crusade>Raiders said:YES. Now that Spielberg is more interested in doing another Indy movie, I hope he really gets into it this time. Spielberg wasn't afraid to admit the flaws of Temple of Doom, and Lucas even said "Nuked the fridge" in an interview lol.
*crosses fingers*
Udvarnoky said:And that's the thing, a real McGuffin doesn't need to have any significance. The history of the maltese falcon was unimportant - all we needed to know was that it was the thing that all the characters wanted. It doesn't have to be important to us as long as we're convinced that it's important to them.
Indiana Jones doesn't have to be Shakespeare, and really, no one wants it to be. The artifact that Indy is looking for doesn't need to be anything more than something to hang a bunch of enjoyably implausible action sequences on. Temple of Doom gave us the rocks, enough of a backstory (The Hindu god gave magic stones to blahblahblah) for us to buy it within the realm of a goofy adventure movie, and got on with the good stuff. Raiders wasn't about the ark so much as Indy realizing his love for Marion, Temple wasn't about the stones so much as Indy discovering his morals, and Crusade wasn't about the cup but about a father and son finding each other. There's no emotional hook in Crystal Skull - it really is just about Indy returning an alien head to a chamber. Mutt isn't horrible or anything, but he's just there to give Indy a son. It's great to see Marion back, but she's only there to satisfy a fan craving and to reveal that she's Mutt's Mom with Indy. Everyone who had the potential to function as an emotional anchor feels like they're there as a glaring plot device, or to ensure that Lucas can make a spinoff someday. Lucas was so worried about updating the franchise and bringing it to the 50s and doing the scifi b-movie stuff (all of which works fine) that somewhere along the way he forgot to just make good entertainment, which is far more important.
Udvarnoky said:There's no emotional hook in Crystal Skull - it really is just about Indy returning an alien head to a chamber.
The Man said:Notice how suddenly frosty Lucas has become towards Mutt since Shia's pinkie-pulping antics? Is young LaBeouf in the bad books? Hmmm?*
*Now if Karen Allen can get arrested for murder, Indy V may yet have hope.