My Indy 4 script.

Canyon

Well-known member
Tennessee R said:
Wow, Gear01, This is the first time I've read this thread, and now I'm glad! This is great! Those exerpts you posted are absolutely wonderful. I love the way you keep the flow going with Henry and Indy. It makes me wish I was a prducer, or director, or someone who could get your script made into a movie.
Great work. Wish you could put the whole thing on a post, and more! The trouble with the Darabont script may be you answer.
Your stuff is great!

Gear01, I have previous read some of your post but I have just gone back to read more and I would just like to say I agree with everyting that our friend Tennessee R posted.

You truly have some great ideas there and I sincerely hope that this goes somewhere, because I for one would love to see these scenes on a big screen.

Kind regards
Canyon
 

Samson_K

New member
An Option

Hey,

Read your script segments and liked them - but the chances of it being made as an Indy film are miniscule. It's simply a case that Lucas and Speilberg are rightfully very protective of their properties (both having had lawsuits raised against them by people who state they stole ideas from them - that is why they don't look at unsolicitated scripts, treatments etc.)

Maybe the best option would be to try to rework the idea with original characters (let's face it if and when Indy IV comes out and if it's a success studios will be launching their own 'high adventure films with a period setting') Look at all the stuff that has come out since Raiders (not all of it bad).

If you believe in your ideas enough and have sufficient writing talent then re-write the story with original characters and find an agent. Again, in the lead up to Indy IV there may be an interest from studios trying to pre-empt the genre revival. (Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow seems to be set in the same pulp serial world as Indy - albeit a more fantastical one).

Just my suggestions.

Love this site and this is my very first posting.

Later people

Samson
 

andywalktalk

New member
anti-americanism?

monkey said:
Hey Andy,
I detect a bit of anti-americanism there, but I won't hold it against you, I like Brits. But that's enough politics.

Haha nah not really, but i got emailed this test below the other day, sort of sums up the outsiders view of the stereotypical american:

A quick test so you can find out if you are normal or American.

1. You decide that the relationship with your partner is over. How do
you
break the news you are leaving?

(a) Leave a tearful note on the table and slip quietly away
(b) Calmly discuss the reasons with your partner for your decision
(c) Attack them with a chair in front of a rabble of cheering
pumped-up
inbreds on national television.

2. You and your mates decide to have a game of football in the park.
What
do you need to take?

(a) A ball
(b) A ball and 2 coats
(c) A ball, 50 crash helmets, 4 tons of body armour, 20 cheerleaders,
a
marching sousaphone band with a grand piano on a trolley, and a team of
orthopaedic surgeons specialising in spinal injuries.

3. You are driving along a country road when you accidentally run over
a
rabbit. What do you do?

(a) Stop and see how badly injured it is, taking it to a vet if it is
still alive
(b) Carry on driving, but hope it is still alive, or if not, that it
died
quickly
(c) Strap it across the bonnet of your car and drive home hollering,
whooping and throwing empty Budweiser cans out of the window.

4. You wake up in the morning with a stiff neck after sleeping in an
awkward position. What do you do?

(a) Ignore it. It will probably loosen up as the day progresses
(b) Take a couple of aspirins and get on with things.
(c) Take yourself to a prostitute-addicted TV evangelist faith healer
in
an ill-fitting wig, who will lay his hands on you head, whilst
screaming
about the devil in front of an audience of gibbering inbreds.

5. What do you have for breakfast?

(a) A bowl of Cornflakes, slice of toast and a mug of tea
(b) Glass of orange juice, croissant and a cup of coffee
(c) A bag of donuts with ice cream, a 32 ounce steak with six eggs
sunny
side-up, fifteen pancakes with maple syrup, ten waffles, five corn dogs
and
a diet root beer.

6. You and your partner decide to take the plunge and get married.
What sort of ceremony do you have?

(a) A quiet party with a few friends in a registry office
(b) A church service followed by a traditional reception at a hotel
(c) A minute long mockery at a 24 hour drive-through chapel in Las
Vegas,
presided over by a transvestite vicar dressed as Elvis.

7. Your 14-year-old son is going through a difficult phase, becoming
disruptive at school and reclusive at home. What do you do?

(a) Don't worry. Its just a phase and will pass.
(b) Encourage him to get out more, get involved in team sports or join
a
youth club.
(c) Take him to an armoury and buy him an arsenal of semi-automatic
weapons and enough ammunition to slaughter a small town.

8. You fancy a night in watching something funny on TV. What kind of
comedy do you choose?

(a) A sitcom like Fawlty Towers or Father Ted
(b) A sketch show like the Two Ronnies or Benny Hill
(c) A thinly disguised morality play set in a massive lounge where the
audience whoop for ten minutes every time an overpaid actor with a
superglued grin on his face makes an entrance to deliver a lightweight
wisecrack.

9. Whilst getting ready for bed, you stub your toe on your wife's
dressing table. What do you do?

(a) Shout and swear a bit, after all, it did hurt
(b) Make a mental note to move the table so it doesn't happen again
(c) Immediately call a hotshot lawyer with an uptown reputation, and
sue
your wife's ass.

10. There are peace talks in another part of the world. What do you
do?

(a) Let them get on with it but offer your advice if needed
(b) Let them get on with it and offer help to both sides
(c) Ignore all parties wishes and protests and take over the talks.


11. There are global concerns about the emissions from cars, do you:

(a) Introduce incentives to switch to cleaner cars
(b) Invent a new cleaner fuel
(c) Continue to use and invent dirtier and bigger S.U.V's.


12. There is a war in another part of the world, do you:

(a) Monitor to see if Human rights are being infringed and step in
when
necessary
(b) Monitor to see if Human rights are being infringed and bring the
culprits to justice
(c) Invade the country flattening all buildings and fire at all
allied
and enemy airplanes .

14. You're on holiday abroad, do you:

(a) Enjoy the local culture and food
(b) Enjoy the local culture and food but look forward to getting home
(c) Complain and whinge that the country that you are visiting is
nothing
like home. And drink Coca Cola.


Answers...

If you answered mostly (a)'s & (b)'s then you are a normal well
balanced
individual.
If you answered mostly (c)'s then sorry, you are an American.
 

Joe Brody

Well-known member
Samson_K,

Welcome aboard. Good post with good observations. I note from your profile that you're a writer located in Scotland. Are you perchance a modern day Robert Louis Stevenson?

My wife dragged me kicking and screaming to Scotland about six years back and I loved it. I hope to do some serious backpacking there someday.
 

Samson_K

New member
Hey,

Thanks for the welcome Joe.

I'm glad you liked Scotland, it is, in my humble and probably quite biased opinion one of the most beautiful countries in the world. The Highlands are spectacular and some of the cities (Edinburgh and Glasgow) have loads to offer.

Nah, I'm no Robert Louis Stephenson - but I'm trying. I am working on a novel called 'Geeks' at the moment (sort of comedy autobiographical story about a man who spends waaaay too much time devoted to his scie-fi and film heroes - Indy and Doctor Who). Also written a screenplay that I am producing (occult / high adventure). I haven't made a hell of a lot of money from my writing yet - had three plays produced though and I do have to work in 'real life' to pay for my wild extravagant life (hah!).

Anyways, if you get back to Scotland I hope that you enjot it again and don't just concentrate on the Highlands - it's a small country with loads of different stuff to offer.

This has been an unofficial notice from the Scottish Tourist Board!!!

Later
 

monkey

Guest
Andy, I am deeply offended by your post!!!!
.
.
.
.
No, not really, in fact it was one of the wittiest observations of American culture that I've seen in a long time.

Besides, I must be British because I answered mostly a. and b.

I especially like your question about American television. I am a huge fan of Fawlty Towers!!

Welcome to the Raven forum. Look forward to reading more of your posts in the future.
 

dmaster

New member
Not an Indy Movie

I enjoyed reading gear01 script, it seems clear he can write a creative, compelling story.

I respect anyone who says:

gear01 said:
any person can stumble across a totally intriguing idea, and if they are willing to devote practically every waking minute to refining that idea and mentally punishing themselves until the plot is solid as a rock and the action sequences are truly spectacular; Then they too will have accomplished what I have.

Good Writing is re-writing, re-writing, and re-writing!

So, we may have something here, but alas, it must be at best a great novel, not a screenplay.

Why? One reason only; George Lucas is the creator of the story. Period.

You are presenting a full, from concept to draft script. So, what you are doing is basically demanding beyond what was expected from even Frank Darabont!

You can't create a plot from thin air and expecting them to say; "Terrific! We're saved!". Its their character, its their concept, not yours. You can't do that!

The best way for you to apply those two years you've dedicated so hard it seems would be to create your own world, your own creation.

If that script is as good as you say it is, I would do this:

Open up your script editor and go to Tools->Replace, then do, Replace: "Indiana Jones" With: "John Smith" or whatever.

THEN sell it! Just... sell it man. Don't clone Indy... build a new hero from the ground up! A new hero for the 21st century.

This is not an Indiana Jones movie! Its your movie!!

If you think you are worth it, don't be second best. Be the first. Be yourself.
 

strongbad

New member
Hey i'm new here and i've written a brief synopsis of my own script inspired by 01gear


he'll be crying himself into his pillow while his new step sister finally shows she has a heart and sits on the bed next to him to talk about the highs and lows of growing up and how they should get along in the future for daddy's sake, accompanied with her estranged son coming in and becoming 01gear's best friend. The two get up to some crazy adventures reminiscient of "Round the Twist".
Just as they start high school and make a new group of friends that are seen as the geeks of the school until they arrange a "cool" house party with plenty of booze and the coolest kid in school comes and says "you guys are alright" at which point they become major popular figures at the school and girls then find them attractive and then there's a whole different story about his best friend fancying the girl that fancys 01gear so he cant let his friend down but the girl is the most attractive you would ever meet and she likes him, he decides to run away and becomes addicted to soft drugs but a local tramp who everyone in the neighbourhood is scared of, opens up 01gears eyes to the bad things about drugs.... 01gear then realises that the local tramp (old man davies) is a good guy and pleads with the local community to help the tramp and for the mayor to give him a job. The tramp gets the job and then starts his own business... he becomes rich and comes back to visit 01gear just as he is graduating, emotional scene ensues and 01gear realises that he loves old man davies and that he is now a homosexual.his friend gets with the girl that used to fancy him and old man davies offers all the "kids" a job in a different state which means there has to be an emotional farewell to 01gear's parents and old man davies takes the group under his wing.... The End.

In the sequel it turns out that old man davies was a tramp because he was on the run from the law in texas where he was wanted for murdering a child when he was in the military. Abandoned by all he just became a recluse and then addicted to drugs.

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I feel that being in a country of courage and heros and
a well run government and freedom and liberty and justice for all and... oh wait. Hang on, I'm not from America, I couldnt give a crap about that stuff. Anyway hope you like "the greatest story ever told" (thats the working title). I have been told that it rivals the bible.
 

gear01

New member
Thanks strongbad,
Now I know I've arrived, because my life story has finally been chronicled. I can't wait for the movie.

-gear01
 

strongbad

New member
hey 01gear joking apart along with my epic story, I didnt think your script ideas were too bad but i had to agree with andywalktalk in the way that it is a very distant dream that your script will ever receive any recognition and indeed even be turned into a motion picture.

It appears that andy being from the UK like myself has a more down-to-earth and realistic view on your script ideas. Good as they may be, no-one's ever gonna know about them. However I believe that andy's idea about Indy's demise in Indy IV is a good one and would be the best way to end a great set of films.

I'm waiting on a company that publishes bibles to take a look at my epic but until then I'll relish in other great story-lined things such as Friends, ER, Baywatch, Lance Powers and the Freedom Fighters Core, and TV related to Iraq and the USA. Thanks for reading the greatest story ever told by the way, hope others enjoy it...
 

gear01

New member
Indy East Berlin Part 1

One thing was dead sure. Indiana Jones made for one ugly Babushka. It was two days since Henry Jones traded his prized gold watch for the horses and hay wagon they were now pulling into the outskirts of East Berlin. Indy?s guise of scarf covered head, overcoat and apron only drew one reaction from the checkpoint guards, how could a farmer as dashing as Henry Jones senior be seated next to the ugliest woman in Russia.

Once inside the city Henry and Indy parked the hay wagon and quickly lost their disguises. They slipped back into the clothes they were wearing while in Moscow. The soot and torn fabric had all but disappeared after being laundered and mended back at the farmhouse.
Nightfall had come and the duo was now within earshot of the border crossing. They lined up in a steady march of civilians traveling toward the border station when one sight became sorely evident, a massive buildup of guards and light armored vehicles. They could throw a stone into West Berlin but nothing short of an international incident would get them that far.
Henry- ?So Junior, you got any other bright ideas??
Indy- ?Just one......... that?s if she still isn?t mad at me.?
The two fall out of line and shuffle back into the city, all under the watchful eye of a KGB agent standing in a nearby apartment building alcove. At first all that is seen is the hot amber at the tip of his cigarette, then a long drag illuminates his chiseled Ruskie features. Indy and Henry pass by; then ?Agent 1? emerges from his shadowy place. He extinguishes his cigarette with the rub of his thumb and forefinger then tucks away the un-smoked remainder, leaving nary a trace of his presence. He pulls a small dog type whistle out of his trench coat breast pocket, puts it to his lips and takes a sharp breath. Henry and Indy just round a nearby corner as the shrill of a police whistle is expected. But as the KGB agent blows, only a very faint high-pitched ring is heard; A signal that mere humans would ignore, but to a trained KGB agent this is a call to action. Across the street and down a block another trench coat clad, black rimmed agent emerges from his hiding place. ?Agent 1? throws a hand signal and the two now shadow Indy and Henry through the streets of East Berlin.
Those two university types should be small work for a couple of cool as ice KGB assassins.
 

robbiem

New member
gear01- people will put you down and tell you its impossible everywhere you go. thats just how it is. if you think you have a shot, and have supporters, and like you said contacts with agents etc... then thats all you need man.whats the worst that could happen? they say thank you, we wont be using it? then what. turn it into a novel my friend.

none of us here know george or steve, so no one here can do the talking for them....

robbie
 

gear01

New member
My Indy 4 script. Chewed up and spit out. If anyone cares.

Once upon a time, a little over 4 and ½ years ago I thought I would put to paper my ideas for the next Indiana Jones Adventure. I was between jobs and I had a small window of time to see just how far I could take the story that had been building in my head for some time. I would set out to do the impossible.
And frankly I failed. It wasn’t from the lack of trying. I tried every angle. I pleaded with at least 20 Hollywood agents, with always the same response, “everyone knows George Lucas comes up with the ideas.” I became a super sleuth of finding phone numbers, email addresses, and locations. I got Karen Allen’s agent to accept the script, I’m sure even before she new Marion Ravenwood was being written into Frank Darabont’s version. I contacted Frank Darbont’s production office to say “hey, steal my ideas please.” I thought I was a shoe in for an assistant to an assistant job at the Kennedy Marshall Company but the son of Frank’s friend got the job. I later emailed a pdf file of my synopsis to Frank Marshall personally and shortly after received a fully printed version by certified mail from his attorney asking me not to send anymore material. I drove by Spielberg’s home security fortress several times, just hoping to catch him out mowing the lawn, the bold sign on the hedge clearly stated “Do not throw paper material of any kind over the fence!” I once woke up the late Patricia McQueeney, Harrison Ford’s long time agent and publicist in the middle of the night and she was supremely pissed off, I didn’t know she would pick up the fax line.
At the same time I started a thread on this very same Raven Message Boards. People seemed to be genuinely impressed and I began posting excerpts from my story. Momentum was building, then came the news that Frank Darabont’s script had been rejected and Lucas was looking for a new writer, could this be my big break?
It was at that point The Raven Message Boards crashed and were down for what seemed like months, when it came back I couldn’t find the previous thread anymore, and to my disappointment David Koepp had been hired to resume writing, it was also at that time when my unemployment ran out and I was in need of a new job or two, especially with another baby on the way.
So I’ve sat back and watched and waited these past 4 years, secretly hoping the movie would fail so if for no other reason I could make public my story of what the last Indy film could have been. I also held on to the idea that depending on how the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull played out, maybe my story had a chance as Indy 5!
Well, as I have learned No Way. You see, my Marion Ravenwood had a daughter, a sassy, tough as nails, spitfire. And Sean Connery who will soon be proclaimed dead in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, lived on in my story to fight his way though almost half of the movie, and the McGuffin was not some puny little crystal skull, but it was the whole damn flying saucer that the Russians were trying to grab. Sallah met his maker, Willie Scott got her nightclub trashed in East Berlin, Atlantis was discovered, and throw in Joseph Stalin and Howard Hughes for good measure. I thought the fans would love it.
But wait, maybe there’s hope, instead of Henry Jones Senior and Indy inadvertently driving a trash truck through the middle of a May Day Moscow military parade, it could be Mutt and Indy in there next “excellent adventure”. hmmm, I’ll have to think about that one.
I guess I’ll wait and see how Kingdom of the Crystal Skull actually plays out.

Following is the long lost forum thread.
http://raven.theraider.net/showthread.php?t=5632
 
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