JuniorJones said:
Your obstinacy is fun in the same way as crashing my head against a wall. However, I like that feeling of dizziness.
I gathered that from your posts here, though they make me laugh like The Raven's own AFV.
JuniorJones said:
Please...
JuniorJones said:
What, in your view, is racism?
I began the thread with the definition in order to establish just that. There is a consideration with regard to dictionaries however.
There are different types, and for the purpose of this conversation I think its important to point out two of them: prescriptive and descriptive.
Prescriptive dictionaries focus on language according to rules, and descriptive dictionaries focus on language use.
My children will, for example, look up "slang" finding entries like "ain't," "conversate" or "irregardless" and scream: HA! it's a word! Then I have to clarify that it's a
nonstandard word, that comprehensive
prescriptive dictionaries include nonstandard words, dialect, colloquialisms, and jargon...that it's not enough that they're simply listed. You have to look further for their qualifications...these prescriptive dictionaries make stronger statements against jargon (hybrid language) than, for exampe,
descriptive dictionaries.
While slang and colloquialisms are fun, making things lively and interesting, in matters like discussing racism, they compound an already thorny subject.
Additionally, "I ain't gonna conversate with Vance irregardless of his egocentric and bossy stance." might be fun to write/read and puzzle over, it doesn't further any understanding besides obstinacy, (I'll leave it to you to guess whose).
Racism is a tricky concept as it is, which is why I'm striving to confine it to Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.
There are endless spirals, tangents to explore and get lost in...but the single thing which provides focus and the common ground we all (pardon me...most of us) share is Indiana Jones.
So everyone, (yourself included) please accept my apologies for reflecting. Its been a way to keep things from becomming unwieldy and despite the **** fight Vance laments, we can only have the conversation members here are willing to have. In Lance's case, his reliance on memories and feelings have exposed the deep flaws, arrogance and ultimately an illustration of the pervasive misconceptions people emotionally cling to in opposition to facts and proof.
If you feel justified that racism exists in the films, then what is there to fear from explaining and defending your view versus the views of others?
I can only imagine that those who voted that the films are racist cannot support thier views. That their emotions on the subject are ineffable.
Ultimately I think this is the hurdle: reason vs passion.
JuniorJones said:
I would like you to define it. Use a dictionary if you wish.
What I personally take away from the dictionary entry which begins this thread, my less clinical definition:
Racism is belittling someone by claiming a human trait is due to their heritage/ancestry/culture.
Vance said:
a very shameful thread that's an embarassment to The Raven as well to fans of all pulps.
I fear you're doing nothing but dragging it down...using it to instigate. Is it too much to ask you no longer pollute it?