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StoneTriple said:

How is pointing out scenes from the other films "completely exaggerating"? Those scenes were every bit as silly, comedic, and impossible. In each case, for all three films, they were played either for laughs, for fun, or you have to suspend belief.

And for the record, I'm not trying to put Kingdom on par with Temple & Crusade. In my world, it's better. I don't have to justify my thoughts, nor do I have to defend them - although, I have explained them a few times for clarity. They don't ebb and flow with the posts of haters and gushers. I dig all the films - they're a close 2, 3, 4 after Raiders.

Sorry kid, it's not about being a drone. It's about putting my thoughts up as a part of the ongoing discussions - just as you do.

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You call those thoughts? Could have fooled me…

Let me introduce you to something I’d like to call probability. Apparently you’ve never met. Some of it is equivalent and most of it is not. Comparing a mine cart landing to surviving a nuclear blast isn’t even in the same general vicinity. The mine cart jump isn’t likely whatsoever…but it’s certainly not impossible. That’s not the same for the fridge scene. Saying that the infamous rubber tree scene is just like Willie and Indiana jumping out of Club Obi-Wan is utterly illogical. It’s so obnoxiously stupid that it’s funny. You've actually made me laugh. Congratulations! You do realize that actual stuntee’s did that? Now you are also aware that the tree could never actually spring back like a commie swatter in reality? Why do you think they used such obvious CGI? Thus you cannot compare them. One is achievable in real life and one is pure fantasy. They all have laughs and gags. Raiders isn’t even excluded. Crystal Skull heightened many of those gags and gimmicks to a level of blatant impossibility. The former films do not include anything of this raised and unreasonable level. There is a big difference between unlikely and impossible. So please check your bias at the door and let the grown-ups talk. If you can't realize just how exaggerated Crystal Skull is even in comparison to the former Indiana Jones films then you're truly blinded by that said bias. Talking to you would be like conversing with a wall. I'm sorry if all this logic and reason seemingly goes over your head...*rollseyes*...

MaxPhactor23 said:

Heh! I'm pretty much the same way. I'm one of those wierdo's that adores Temple of Doom. I?m not one of those people that cares how others personally feel about the film. You?ll see people around here that are almost personally insulted by a difference of opinion.

That?s the one thing I find most fascinating with all the drones. They seem to completely exaggerate the silliness, impossibilities, and comic relief in the original trilogy just to put Crystal Skull on par with the former. Need I really say...comparing a mine cart jump to surviving a nuclear blast in a fridge...*shakes head*... I really don't have to say any more. We?re in Idiocracy...

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Classic... I think you have been fairly vocal about KOTCS and how you view those that like it. In fact, I'd say that you are one of a few here who seem to take it as a personal insult if anyone states a liking for the movie (unless I've completely misread your posts).

Personally speaking? I?m happy to admit to being opinionated and quick to brandish my vocabulary to state a case? but please don?t try and convince anyone that you are somehow better than all that?

StoneTriple said:

That?s the one thing I find most fascinating with all the bashers. They seem to completely ignore the silliness, impossibilities, and comedy relief that are just as plentiful in Temple & Crusade as they are in Kingdom.

I realize there are a few trolls and baiters that have created accounts for entertainment purposes. Excluding them, there are some actual fans that really do seem blind to those same elements being in Temple & Crusade.

Impossible
Kingdom ? refrigerator surviving bomb
Temple ? mine car chase\jump
Crusade ? plane flying into tunnel losing only wings & sliding upright by Indy?s car

Silly
Kingdom ? big snake as a rope
Temple ? Willie at the camp site
Crusade ? Indy as a Scottish lord

Kingdom ? car driving into tree then into river
Temple ? Indy & Willie falling from awning to awning and into car
Crusade ? giant screw chopping up boat that somehow doesn?t sink

Kingdom ? Ox getting help
Temple ? antidote\diamond scene on dance floor
Crusade ? Indy & dad tied up back to back with big rope ? same bat time, same bat channel


Comedy
Kingdom ? kid asking question after Indy slides to a stop in library
Temple ? Willie getting on elephant backwards
Crusade ? librarian stamping books while Indy cracks floor

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but their are still the people that forget all the things from ROTLA

its impossible to climb under a moving car and come out on the otherside fine.


All the movies have their flaws that are silly stupid or just impossible but that is why we love them.

its justs the small population of fanboys in the world that enjoy pointing these things out to make them the best at knowing about Indy.

Get over it and enjoy the movies for what they are.

MaxPhactor23 said:

You call those thoughts? Could have fooled me?

Let me introduce you to something I?d like to call probability. Apparently you?ve never met. Some of it is equivalent and most of it is not. Comparing a mine cart landing to surviving a nuclear blast isn?t even in the same general vicinity.

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Just had to interject here as well... for what it's worth... Now it's a given that Indiana Jones is all about exaggerated and preposterous situations? and we have to take them with a pinch of salt. But as a concept, I?ve read many accounts of survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki (although I?m sure none survived by hiding in a fridge ), but I?ve never seen or read anything about someone surviving the event of having their heart ripped out by an evil Thuggee. You see? it?s all about probability for me...

Darth Vile said:

Classic... I think you have been fairly vocal about KOTCS and how you view those that like it. In fact, I'd say that you are one of a few here who seem to take it as a personal insult if anyone states a liking for the movie (unless I've completely misread your posts).

Personally speaking… I’m happy to admit to being opinionated and quick to brandish my vocabulary to state a case… but please don’t try and convince anyone that you are somehow better than all that…

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Oh come now Vile...everyone better then you.

Once you finally accept that Crystal Skull is considered the least of the films, you might want this. Thought I'd help a brother out.

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I like the movie, although I think the last 10 minutes is pretty terrible. I think it's worth noting that the guy who could best help with that is ironically ...George Lucas. Seriously, whatever else he gets wrong, the ending was always the best part of those new Star Wars, and in his younger days he could cut anything and make it seem good. It's Spielberg who seems to have lost the ability to end his movies. (What was the last Spielberg movie where the end/third act was the best part?)
Anyway IMDB isn't a good measure of anything, it's full of Unabomber-type fruitcakes who write long angry manifestos, that isn't representative of how the rest of the world reacts to stuff. (And it's especially useless for an Indiana Jones movie since the initial reaction to both previous sequels was nothing like it is now.)

MaxPhactor23 said:

You call those thoughts? Could have fooled me?

so obnoxiously stupid

You've actually made me laugh

let the grown-ups talk.

Talking to you would be like conversing with a wall.

I'm sorry if all this logic and reason seemingly goes over your head...*rollseyes*...

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Good luck, kid.

I'm very thappy that we finally agree now that the most people think that "Skull" is the worst of the Indy-Movie.

Now we got a 7.1 ranking. I guess in year it's 6.8...

Yes, it's good to have goals in life.

Sankara, I'm down with you hating on the movie...but please stop using IMDB to justify it. You're giving the haters a bad name.

I don't mind if Sankara dislikes CS, and even if CS is considered the worst (it probably is my least fave also, but still like it! ) does anyone really care about the ratings/opinions on IMDB? I've said it before, and will again, as long as you know if you like the movie or not, why worry about a site like that. And to be honest, the site isn't exactly filled with the wisest people anyway.

weyhoops said:

Sankara, I'm down with you hating on the movie...but please stop using IMDB to justify it. You're giving the haters a bad name.

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I don't get it really. What's he saying? Just because some poll on a website I've never looked at anyway says it is the worst of 4 excellent films I should suddenly see the error of my ways and decide to hate it? Personally, if I like something, I like it and I don't give a f*** what anyone says (although I am always interested in INTELLIGENT criticism).

Maybe Sankara lacks the confidence to hate something without having his opinion justified by somebody else.

graz said:

Maybe Sankara lacks the confidence to hate something without having his opinion justified by somebody else.

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Hope you don't mind my little twitching here in the corner, I'm just trying hold back severe spasmic laughter.

Finn said:

Hope you don't mind my little twitching here in the corner, I'm just trying hold back severe spasmic laughter.

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Don't hold it back old chap, laughter makes the world go round!

It's been holding on to 7.1 for more than a week now. I don't think it'll go any lower.

No, only MY opinion is important for me. But I think it's very interessting (and very sad) that most people think that "Skull" is the worst Indymovie...

So we can clearly say that Spielberg, Ford and Lucas failed. "Crusade" was a perfekt ending which most people liked very much. The new "ending" is for the most people not as good as "Crusade"...

It is? Oh no!

Sankara said:

No, only MY opinion is important for me. But I think it's very interessting (and very sad) that most people think that "Skull" is the worst Indymovie...
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Hands up who thinks its SAD that a bunch of people who post on the internet think its the WORST Indymovie?! I'm gutted personally...

(I'm sorry I must stop this, my Wife thinks me doing stuff like this is pretty SAD as well. Women eh?... )

@graz
I think it's sad. So many people in the world love the "Indiana Jones"-Movies from the 80's. Now most people in the world think that "Skull" is the worst of the Indy-Movies and they are very-very dissapointed about this movie which is not an Indiana Jones-Movie. Yes, I think it's sad...

the KOTCS rating is pretty bad. i think it should be higher than that. i thought it was better than temple of doom.