New Video...Indy's Hat and Jacket

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Violet

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Oh, alright. I must say I'm surprised no one else has mentioned seeing this.

In the shot on the hill, with blue screen an old white guy with long hair and wearing a very well worn poncho has his back to camera. If that photo in the temple entrance with stairs, (Indy and Mutt with Marion and Mac and someone behind them) is of any indication, it's the same guy and it seems to fit that this is our first half decent image of John Hurt. Watch it again, see if I am right.
 
No Ticket

No Ticket

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WOW.

Harrison doesn't look anywhere NEAR 65 in that video. How on earth can he look so good!!??!!

I loved the small snippit of the water scene. And the lighting on whatever is going on in the scene where he is next to the us army soldier is awesome. I just watched Raiders recently AND TOD. Raiders, believe it or not, I haven't seen that much so it was nice.. but... I can't believe how many times I've apparently watched TOD... I almost can't watch it anymore because I know the movie line for line so well. It's going to be nice to finally have a new 'venture to watch. I'm so excited!
 
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ResidentAlien

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Violet Indy said:
Oh, alright. I must say I'm surprised no one else has mentioned seeing this.

In the shot on the hill, with blue screen an old white guy with long hair and wearing a very well worn poncho has his back to camera. If that photo in the temple entrance with stairs, (Indy and Mutt with Marion and Mac and someone behind them) is of any indication, it's the same guy and it seems to fit that this is our first half decent image of John Hurt. Watch it again, see if I am right.
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Yeah, I saw that too. That's what I thought you were referring to.
 
blueseattle

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This video is exciting. The heavy use of blue screen really makes me anxious.. in a bad way. I thought about Lucas' influence and it makes me nauseous. I watched The Green Mile last night and thought about Spielberg's comments that it was the "best script since Raiders" that Darabont did and it kills me that they didn't use it.

Nevertheless, I'm still psyched for this movie. Like beyond.

It's going to be hard to pull myself away from my girlfriend to see this, considering it's V-Day. She's already being pesky for me being overly excited for this rather than the actual day we're together for it. Haha.
 
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barranca

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Blue screen dosen't bother me, it'll just be 'digital set extension'. The Digital work will be minimal, I'm sure.
 
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Form what I've heard from other sources of which I cannot remember... Spielberg said something about using real footage and "layering" it. In other words, extending the sets with real footage... not "digital" footage... that's what the blue-screen is for.

Now, digital matte paintings are probably going to be used... but it's still the same thing basically. Just because it's "digital" doesn't necessarily make it "bad." I mean, the matte paintings are great... but the "Shorty, where's my razor" painting always looked very fake to me.
 
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eazybox

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Bernie Pollack mentioned that Spielberg lost sleep because he was worried that they wouldn't be able to get the hat right. But Steve Delk and Marc Kitter-- two of US-- did a FAN-tastic job and deserve to be congratulated; Ford looks like he was born wearing that hat.

Jack
 
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drwynn

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Michael24 said:
Even the "official Indy fedoras" I see sold at stores have some minor differences from the one Indy wears in the films. I bought mine at Disneyland in 1995, and the creases are slightly different. I've yet to see an "official" Indy fedora that looks identical to the one in the films.
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There are actually HUUUGE differences between the fedoras Indy wears in the films and the mass-marketed "Official" ones they sell at places like DisneyLand.

The film versions are a lot taller...especially at the crown of the hat. They also have a wider brim which is dimensionally cut (longer in the front and back of the hat than on the sides). The film version hats have a double-bow ribbon. They also don't have an oval shaped bash on the back of the top of the hat like the "Official" versions. Also, the pinch on the crown of the film versions is a lot tighter.

Basically, the mass-marketed ones are really cheap reproductions which will pass as "Official" to the untrained, unknowing eye. But, if you really know a lot about the hat (as some Indy fans do)...you know that the Official versions are basically junk and don't really look anything like the ones Mr. Ford wears. I'm not trying to make anyone feel badly who might own one...but, they really aren't even close to what they should be.
 
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Adamwankenobi

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blueseattle said:
This video is exciting. The heavy use of blue screen really makes me anxious.. in a bad way. I thought about Lucas' influence and it makes me nauseous. I watched The Green Mile last night and thought about Spielberg's comments that it was the "best script since Raiders" that Darabont did and it kills me that they didn't use it.
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But would you really want KOTCS written with the extreme depth Green Mile and Shawshank were? I mean, those were brilliant films (some of my favorites of all time, in fact), but KOTCS just isn't that kind of film. Now, Darabont's writing style did fit the Young Indiana Jones episodes because they weren't trying to emulate B-movies, but the IJ films are.

blueseattle said:
It's going to be hard to pull myself away from my girlfriend to see this, considering it's V-Day. She's already being pesky for me being overly excited for this rather than the actual day we're together for it. Haha.
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Valentine's day is a load of BS anyway. If you ask me, it's a holiday of superficialism and $$.
 
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Matthew

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Very enjoyable video, and it gives me the feeling they've already been at work on a good deal of interview material for the DVD and stuff. The glimpses of the indoor sets make me worry a little less about the location variety. I still don't see why the hat was much challenge, maybe the company that did it last time went out of business, but it's not like it was a new concept. If there were ones left from previous films I wonder, why not use them.
 
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Matthew said:
Very enjoyable video, and it gives me the feeling they've already been at work on a good deal of interview material for the DVD and stuff. The glimpses of the indoor sets make me worry a little less about the location variety. I still don't see why the hat was much challenge, maybe the company that did it last time went out of business, but it's not like it was a new concept. If there were ones left from previous films I wonder, why not use them.
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One thing I've always wondered is why they couldn't borrow the hat and jacket that are on display at the Smithsonian, or maybe use one from the Lucasfilm archives.
 
Kingsley

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barranca said:
I have a feeling thats John Hurt in the poncho, 8th pic down, if it is, he dosen't look 'grey' enough to be 'Abner'.
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Yeah, the "poncho-man" remains a mistery. But he looks gray enough to me...
Now that pic of Harrison with the soldier and a yellow light... is it inside the warehouse? Is it the top of a vehicle? Can that be a fight scene? Has the yellow light something to do with an explosion (atomic?)? :confused:
 
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eazybox

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Matthew said:
Very enjoyable video, and it gives me the feeling they've already been at work on a good deal of interview material for the DVD and stuff. The glimpses of the indoor sets make me worry a little less about the location variety. I still don't see why the hat was much challenge, maybe the company that did it last time went out of business, but it's not like it was a new concept. If there were ones left from previous films I wonder, why not use them.
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There's a very long story behind the movie hats and the people who made them (Richard Swales (now retired) of Herbert Johnson for the first 3, and Steve Delk and Marc Kitter of Adventurebilt for Indy 4), but if you are interested you can find tons of information about the development and history of the hats at IndyGear's Club Obi Wan forum (COW). Steve Delk goes by the name of Fedora, and his posts are always fascinating & informative. He may know more about Indy's hat than anyone on earth. His European partner, Marc Kitter, posts under the name Marc there.

One of the reasons they could not use Herbert Johnson for Indy 4 is that the company has changed ownership and is no longer producing hats of the same quality as it used to. They needed a hat that would withstand extreme abuse for the new movie, including getting drenched repeatedly without the crown tapering. The Adventurebilt filled that bill; it also looked better on Ford's head than the hats from many other and better-known hatters who had sent their samples to be auditioned.

Reportedly, as soon as Spielberg saw Ford in the Adventurebilt, he sexclaimed, "That's it! That's Indy's hat!", and the auditions went no further.

The production for Indy 4 was based in the U.S., whereas for the previous films it was based in England where Herbert Johnson is located, so that may also have been a factor in the hat's selection.

Jack
 
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fixer79

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Hehe, that's funny...
I watched the Temple of Doom documentary on DVD last night and when I see Harrison interviewed now in this new clip, he looks ten years younger!
Way to go, Harry! :)
 
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IndyFalco

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well spoilers or not, This video was sooo hella good. The thing that made it better was Harrison talking about the HAT NEVER COMING OFF.

soooo awesome, oh and how can I forget....Who here truly believed harrison actually stapled the hat on???

I won't lie, I was one of those guys a couple years ago.
 
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