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Old 05-06-2009, 02:32 PM   #26
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Such details are rarely ever rebvealed in a film like this. It is quite common to cut from the action to a nice, clean ending without a lot of exposition.
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Old 05-07-2009, 06:14 AM   #27
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Completely different case, but Indy is always supposed to be in the same adventure gear, but if he survived a nuclear explosion and was scrubbed down , wouldn't his gear be considered radioactive and be destroyed? You mean to tell me the fedora from Area 51 is the same as in Akator? Hmmmm...

I wonder the same thing when Beloch takes his "gear" in Raiders; gun, whip (satchel?) but hey ho its all there when he takes off for Tibet.

One thing that got me about KOTCS is that when he and Mac were taken by the ruskies, did Indy leave his jacket at the site he was taken from? Because it magically appears again when he and Mutt take off...

I've probably (once again) repeated what others have said lol!
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Old 04-25-2016, 01:26 PM   #28
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Maybe they go back to the jungle camp and bring back the Roswell alien for the warehouse.
Perhaps he stopped by the FBI on his way to the Smithsonian with the alien remains, and bargained for his and Stanforth's reinstatement. But would Indy surrender the "find of a lifetime" for a couple of old academics? What if he kept the smaller crystal skull as collateral?
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Old 04-25-2016, 01:36 PM   #29
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Perhaps he stopped by the FBI on his way to the Smithsonian with the alien remains, and bargained for his and Stanforth's reinstatement. But would Indy surrender the "find of a lifetime" for a couple of old academics? What if he kept the smaller crystal skull as collateral?

Don't forget the historical find of Francisco de Orellana's resting place.
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The FBI basically dismissed Indy's entire decorated war record under the protests of a general they apparently trusted, so I don't know why finding the corpse of conquistadors would impress them.

It is interesting to think what became of Spalko's Amazon encampment, though. Somebody must have been left behind at camp, like that scientist seen monitoring Indy during the skull staring scene. I figure he evaporated along with David Koepp's interest in tying up loose ends.

The "movies of this sort don't dwell on exposition" excuse is laughable, by the way. The first act of the film makes a point of showing us that the scrutiny Indy is under is so severe that he has to split for Germany. There's not sweating the details and then there's the wholesale abandonment of a subplot you devoted substantial screentime setting up. That's lazy for any movie.

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Old 04-25-2016, 02:11 PM   #31
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The FBI basically dismissed Indy's entire decorated war record under the protests of a general they apparently trusted, so I don't know why finding the corpse of conquistadors would impress them.

It is interesting to think what became of Spalko's Amazon encampment, though. Somebody must have been left behind at camp, like that scientist seen monitoring Indy during the skull staring scene. I figure he evaporated along with David Koepp's interest in tying up loose ends.

The "movies of this sort don't dwell on exposition" excuse is laughable, by the way. The first act of the film makes a point of showing us that the scrutiny Indy is under is so severe that he has to split for Germany. There's not sweating the details and then there's the wholesale abandonment of a subplot you devoted substantial screentime setting up. That's lazy for any movie.

To further support your point: not just Germany, but Leipzig, in East Germany, that is, behind the Iron Curtain. We're to believe that no one in the first world was willing to cut Indy a break? That the scrutiny he was under was that extreme, and that widespread? Or, at the very least, that Indy figured he wouldn't be safe in an allied nation? That seems a bit much.
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Old 04-25-2016, 02:23 PM   #32
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He says "Heinrich owes me a favor," so it could just be that he knows he has a friend there. I did appreciate the reminder that Indy has friends all over the world.

What's funny about dropping the government paranoia subplot is that Mutt would have still tracked Indy down either way. So given that they were going nowhere with the FBI suspicion angle, why bother with giving it such emphasis? You could still have stuff like the picketing on campus, to keep the Red Scare element as part of the backdrop.

Thing is, I don't have a problem with the federal witch hunt stuff being more about theme than plot, but you can't just not bother to address Indy's dramatically different circumstances at the end versus the beginning. It's noticeable when you don't resolve the dilemma you set up with a vengeance earlier.
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The FBI basically dismissed Indy's entire decorated war record under the protests of a general they apparently trusted, so I don't know why finding the corpse of conquistadors would impress them. (much more text I'm too lazy to type) ...

I like you, but sometimes you're too damn eloquent and verbose.

"Fed's don't like circumstantial evidence."

5 words.

Done.

LOL

But your point is made.
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Just spitballin' here...

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I like you, but sometimes you're too damn eloquent and verbose.

"Fed's don't like circumstantial evidence."

They might when it suits them.

While anything Indy might know about the government's nefarious dealings are, ultimately, rendered moot by their knowledge of his exploits, this case might be different in that Indy, whatever else may be true, played a role in getting rid of an embarrassing blot on the US government, the incursion of a small Soviet expedition not only into the Western hemisphere, but onto a secret American base, involving concealed evidence of extraterrestrials. That's at least a couple strikes against the feds.

Indy's a bit famous within his world, and as Indy's public persona does not appear to be one that publicizes his more esoteric finds, he might be legitimate enough for any public claims he makes about the crystal skull misadventure to carry some weight.

I think Indy believes in keeping secrets, but maybe he could play the potential whistleblower, coupled with what glimmers of (mostly hearsay) evidence he actually has, to clear his name?
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