Does anyone pretend KOTCS didn't happen?

Cole

Cole

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My camp? Is this some sort of competition?

So now you're taking comments out of context and applying them to everyone who likes the movie? How convenient.

Keep digging that whole further, buddy.
 
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ResidentAlien

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Cole said:
My camp? Is this some sort of competition?

So now you're taking comments out of context and applying them to everyone who likes the movie? How convenient.

Keep digging that whole further, buddy.
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The whole hole and nothing but the hole?

Oy...

You aren't even worth my time. Or is that thyme?
 
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Darth Vile

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Cole said:
I never said you can't dislike the movie..........I just said your analogy is dumb.

Funny, you talking about intolerance of other people's opinions. You know, you writing this dandy a few minute ago:

"And that is why others, like myself, cannot bring ourselves to like something on a merely superficial level."

Hypocrite.
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To be honest I quite like Resident's analogy... it's very apt. As I put in a previous post, KOTCS may very well be an inferior type of pizza to Raiders or TLC... but the bottom line is they are all pizza's i.e. not particularly fine dining in the scheme of things. But when you want a pizza, it can taste so good... ;)
 
Pale Horse

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Probably a good time for us to interject that we're watching; eating cold pizza at our round table, and deciding what to do next with this thread and it's participants.

or for those forum purists
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Cole

Cole

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There are many ways to say you don't like a movie....

It's like a Ford Pinto when you want a Ferrari.

It's like buying a suit at Sears when you want a Velentino suit.

....But none of them are particulalry useful.
 
mattzilla2010

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No, I don't pretend it didn't happen, because I quite enjoyed it actually.

I also quite enjoy Pizza Hut, so take that for what you will. :p
 
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Wilhelm

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It's the first and only pyramid in the series. An archaeologist like Indy needs to be in a pyramid in one of his adventures.
 
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Montana Smith

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Wilhelm said:
It's the first and only pyramid in the series. An archaeologist like Indy needs to be in a pyramid in one of his adventures.
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It's funny that you should mention that, as I just posted a picture of the original ROTLA novel in another thread.

The back cover shows a pyramid!

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The unknown artist thought there should have been pyramids, too!
 
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Darth Vile

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Montana Smith said:
It's funny that you should mention that, as I just posted a picture of the original ROTLA novel in another thread.

The back cover shows a pyramid!

The unknown artist thought there should have been pyramids, too!
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LOL... One of main qualms with Raiders (if being uber critical) is that it's major location is basically generic desert/desert roads. You'd think the one thing you'd have to show, if a major section of the movie is supposed to be in Cairo/Egypt, is a pyramid. I agree with those who thought KOTCS should have been a bit more adventurous in it's location shooting. However, Raiders demonstrates that it's not nearly as important as it may appear (or as important as some may think). Rather, it's the illusion of multiple locales.
 
kongisking

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Darth Vile said:
LOL... One of main qualms with Raiders (if being uber critical) is that it's major location is basically generic desert/desert roads. You'd think the one thing you'd have to show, if a major section of the movie is supposed to be in Cairo/Egypt, is a pyramid. I agree with those who thought KOTCS should have been a bit more adventurous in it's location shooting. However, Raiders demonstrates that it's not nearly as important as it may appear (or as important as some may think). Rather, it's the illusion of multiple locales.
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Remember the oft-told story by Robert Watts about him asking Spielberg if they were shooting any pyramids, and when Berg said no, Watts happily said that they didn't have to go to Egypt then? I always smile at Watts' grin when he retells this anecdote.
 
Rocket Surgeon

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kongisking said:
Remember the oft-told story by Robert Watts about him asking Spielberg if they were shooting any pyramids, and when Berg said no, Watts happily said that they didn't have to go to Egypt then? I always smile at Watts' grin when he retells this anecdote.
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Same one for Indian locations for Pancot...
 
The Stranger

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ResidentAlien said:
tambourineman said:
Its just a movie. Damn some people are drama queens.

Even though I think they made some big mistakes, I dont know how any Indy fan couldnt find something to enjoy about the movie and not get a kick out of seeing Indy again after so many years. I was excited enough just to see him do the bookends for that Young Indy episode.
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Such an idiotic argument and I'm baffled each and every time I hear it. All the apologists have become a real broken record with that nonsense.

It's like saying, "I haven't eaten a pizza in a long while, but I'll be content with Pizza Hut because it has dough, cheese and sauce-- It at least has the ingredients and since I like pizza, I'll like this."

Ingredients do not make the pizza, clearly. It's the skill by which the ingredients are combined. It's why Pizza Hut will only ever make pizza by name, it's why KOCKS will only ever be Indiana Jones by name.
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Hats off to this one.
Well, better late than never...
 
kongisking

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People that deny Indy 4's existence are like people that refuse to acknowledge a relative of their best friend because they think he is an inferior human being.

I'm SO going to be butchered for that comment...Bring on the insults!
 
mister64

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I liked KOTCS (more than TOD even:eek: ), though there are many things I would have done differently if I were Lucas and/or Spielberg.

But I can see where people might deny its existence since if you look closely there are a lot of points where it feels like it was someone else making the movie than the people who made the original 3, doing a paint-by-numbers thing (pre-titles adventure, vehicle chase(s), artifact, death trap (kind of).

I think my real disappointment is that Lucas and Spielberg's styles have changed so much since the 80s that if you didn't see the credits, you might think a different director/producer combo made the new one.
 
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Montana Smith

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kongisking said:
People that deny Indy 4's existence are like people that refuse to acknowledge a relative of their best friend because they think he is an inferior human being.

I'm SO going to be butchered for that comment...Bring on the insults!
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I expect we all have relatives that we "refuse to acknowledge"!

I suppose I'm lucky that I don't hate KOTCS, so I don't have to pretend it doesn't exist. However, there are bits that I wished they'd cut from the final edit. Every Indy movie is a wild ride, so with each new outing you have to get used to a ride that's a bit wilder than the last. TOD prepared us for KOTCS. These films have to be seen as genre-films, a vehicle for super-charged adventure, held together by the character of Indy.
 
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