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Old 05-19-2008, 03:44 PM   #101
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In the Raven Bar shootout in Raiders, if you look carefully you'll notice that Indy is using two different types of pistol. One is his trusty revolver, but the other is a different, clip-loaded pistol. Additionally, if you watch the quick cuts, in some of the close-ups he's clearly using the wrong gun at the wrong time (i.e. wide-shot of Indy holding the revolver, then quick close-up of Indy firing the other pistol, then back to wide shot of him holding the revolver.) I just noticed this for the first time while watching it the other night.
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Old 05-19-2008, 05:24 PM   #102
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Technically speaking he shouldn't have that one either! He wore the grey hat (and the blue double-breasted suit) on the plane to Nepal. Unless he mailed it back home after arriving in Nepal I would think it should have gotten left behind wherever he left all his other luggage.

I always thought that the grey hat was his dress hat, and his old brown fedora was his adventuring one.
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:07 PM   #103
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Speaking of having lost items returned, how does Indy get his gun and whip back from Belloq when Belloq takes the idol from Indy? He clearly doesn't have them when running from the Hovitos, and Belloq doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would send Indy his personal effects back. Unless Indy has spares.
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:59 PM   #104
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When the blood splatters from the German Mechanic (TM) onto the canopy, the blood never appears in any other shot, despite the close-up on Indy shooting the canopy at the exact same spot.
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:06 PM   #105
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In ToD when the thugee and Indy are pulling Shorty he appears to be stretching.
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:49 PM   #106
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Speaking of having lost items returned, how does Indy get his gun and whip back from Belloq when Belloq takes the idol from Indy? He clearly doesn't have them when running from the Hovitos, and Belloq doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would send Indy his personal effects back. Unless Indy has spares.

I remember asking my dad something like "How come Indy has a gun? I thought Belloq took it?" and my dad said, "He probably got another one at Big 5 after he got back." Haha!! There used to be one just a few blocks away from our house.

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When the blood splatters from the German Mechanic (TM) onto the canopy, the blood never appears in any other shot, despite the close-up on Indy shooting the canopy at the exact same spot.

Actually, the blood splatters onto the canopy of the gun turret at the rear of the plane, not the cockpit canopy. The cockpit and the gun turret are connected via a crawlspace that runs the length of the plane.

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Old 05-19-2008, 11:23 PM   #107
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Fooled by the altar of the golden idol

How did the altar of the golden idol work?

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Old 05-19-2008, 11:28 PM   #108
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That confused me as well when I was little as well, and leaving it empty probably would have still triggered the trap. I think the way the trap works is that it's set to go off if there's a change in weight, whether it's more or less than that of the idol. (If the bag of sand had weighed less, the pedestal probably would have risen instead of lowering the way it does in the movie.)
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:37 PM   #109
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Actually, the blood splatters onto the canopy of the gun turret at the rear of the plane, not the cockpit canopy. The cockpit and the gun turret are connected via a crawlspace that runs the length of the plane.

Just watched it. The blood seems to splatter on the left-side of the main canopy, which Marion (who is again up front at this point) reacts to as it spatters all over in front of her. It's minor, but it's a continuity error.

Also, as to 'Short Round's' stretching, it's actually another continuity error. He doesnt' stretch.. it's just that at one point the Thugee's have him by the wrists, then it cuts and they have pulled his sleeves out and are holding him by that, then it cuts again and they have his wrists again. It does look a little silly, though.
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:48 PM   #110
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Indy's revolver inexplicably turns into a .45 automatic during the bar fight in Raiders, and remains a .45 for the rest of the film.
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:52 PM   #111
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Just watched it. The blood seems to splatter on the left-side of the main canopy, which Marion (who is again up front at this point) reacts to as it spatters all over in front of her. It's minor, but it's a continuity error.

If you pause the shot of Marion covering her eyes, you can see the gun and it's crosshair sight in the same shot with her, so she's still in the turret at the back of the plane. The turret canopy is also more rounded, like a bubble, whereas the cockpit canpoy is a little more elongated.
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:59 PM   #112
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Indy's revolver inexplicably turns into a .45 automatic during the bar fight in Raiders, and remains a .45 for the rest of the film.

I always figured he had two guns with him. That revolver is only good for six shots, and it's easier to reload that .45. Also, he used the revolver for the rest of the film. It's onlt the bar scene where he uses a .45.

http://www.theraider.net/showimage.p...nshots/188.jpg
Clearly the revolver. I'd add a screenshot of the gun during the mechanic fight when it's on the ground, but I'm too lazy to look anywhere else.
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:22 AM   #113
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I always figured he had two guns with him. That revolver is only good for six shots, and it's easier to reload that .45. Also, he used the revolver for the rest of the film. It's onlt the bar scene where he uses a .45.

http://www.theraider.net/showimage.p...nshots/188.jpg
Clearly the revolver. I'd add a screenshot of the gun during the mechanic fight when it's on the ground, but I'm too lazy to look anywhere else.
Ooh, very good, very well made point. Thanks for pointing out that image.

I just noticed that he DOES shoot the swordsman with the revolver, but I think my confusion came in the fact that he has the .45 on the Bantu Wind.
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Old 05-20-2008, 08:11 AM   #114
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If you pause the shot of Marion covering her eyes, you can see the gun and it's crosshair sight in the same shot with her, so she's still in the turret at the back of the plane. The turret canopy is also more rounded, like a bubble, whereas the cockpit canpoy is a little more elongated.

Then it's still a continuity error, as she had already gone back to the cockpit by this point, expecting Indy to free her.
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:20 AM   #115
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In Raiders, right as Indy is riding along the ridge and just before he rides downhill to jump on the truck, he's wearing short silver spurs. He doesn't have them before or after in the truck chase.

In Last Crusade, there is one scene where he's talking to Sallah after stealing the horses where they forgot to black out all of the white on his horse's nose. (In the rest of the tank chase, all you can see of this horse's blaze is a pink lower lip- they blacked it out to match the solid black horse Indy rides in Petra.) Also, the other horses they stole change color and facial markings- Sallah's horse switches between a star and a stripe marking, and Henry Sr. and Marcus's horses change color.

Also, right as the convoy stops, there seems to be a horse wearing a regular western saddle with a blanket draped across it, as if it was filmed in pick-ups and they didn't have an Arabian saddle handy.
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Old 05-20-2008, 03:21 PM   #116
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Speaking of having lost items returned, how does Indy get his gun and whip back from Belloq when Belloq takes the idol from Indy? He clearly doesn't have them when running from the Hovitos, and Belloq doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would send Indy his personal effects back. Unless Indy has spares.
Why not? Belloq seems like a pretty classy adversary. Besides, he got what he wanted- sending back the gun and whip would be like him saying "Here, have another go, Junior. I won again this time".

The more probable answer is that he has spares, though.
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Old 05-20-2008, 03:41 PM   #117
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Speaking of the Flying Wing... can someone tell me HOW exactly the Nazis were going to load that big ass Ark crate onto it?

The plane looked way too thin and I can't imagine there was a ton of storage space hidden in there anywhere. Were they just going to strap it on top and hope for the best?
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Old 05-20-2008, 04:31 PM   #118
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The belly of the flying wing is actually very large, there IS no interior of the plane except for the crawl space between the gun and the cockpit, so there would have been room for the ark.

MY question is: What was Indy's plan for getting onboard the plane without detection? I mean, its been established that he cant fly a plane (per Temple of Doom) and apparently he learned at some point before Crusade, but cannot land still. So... why was he attacking the pilot?
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Old 05-20-2008, 05:06 PM   #119
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I don't think he had figured that part out yet.
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Old 05-20-2008, 05:27 PM   #120
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Speaking of the Flying Wing... can someone tell me HOW exactly the Nazis were going to load that big ass Ark crate onto it?

To be.. erm.. fair.. that was just Indy's assumption. None of the Germans even seemed interested in loading the Ark on the Flying Wing. There was no loader or anything, no obvious cargo hatch big enough for the Ark, etc...
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Old 05-20-2008, 05:32 PM   #121
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Well thats cuz they had either just finished, or were ABOUT to start fueling the plane up. Judging by the resulting explosion at the end of the scene, I'm guessing the first one.
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Old 05-20-2008, 06:18 PM   #122
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To be.. erm.. fair.. that was just Indy's assumption. None of the Germans even seemed interested in loading the Ark on the Flying Wing. There was no loader or anything, no obvious cargo hatch big enough for the Ark, etc...

Well to be fair, there IS a drawing in that old Art of Indiana Jones/Star Wars book that shows a drawing of the Ark crate being loaded under the plane.

But the plane in the drawing also looks a lot larger than the plane in the movie.
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Old 05-20-2008, 09:46 PM   #123
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Harrison Ford trips over the barbed wire surrounding the map room and again just before the iconic shot of Indiana shot against a setting sun while searching for the ark (for reference, it is the shot after he stands on the hill holding the shovel and is walking back towards the camera while staring out across the desert).
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Old 05-21-2008, 05:15 AM   #124
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I don't think he had figured that part out yet.

Yeah, as he says later regarding the truck: "I dunno, I'm makin' this up as I go."
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Old 05-22-2008, 12:19 AM   #125
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When Belloq describes his watch as:
"$10 from a vendor on the street...worthless"

Remember this is 1936. Applying the simple inflation model of prices doubling every 16 years...I'd say that's probably a $150-$200 watch in 2008 currency.

That's not Rolex territory, but hardly a worthless watch
$10 could have bought a pretty decent watch back then....
Heck, my 4-year old's Thomas the Tank Engine watch only cost $5.95 in 2007

Perhaps the line should have been: "50 cents from a vendor on the street..."
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