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Old 12-29-2010, 11:18 PM   #51
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I posted it on my Indy 5 page on Facebook, you undoubtedly got some hits there.
Undoubtedly. Just checked your page out and read the people's comments. Someone mentioned what has already been stated previously in this thread about how the "Raiders: Adaption" guys were shown the outakes reel which Spielberg said will never be seen by the general public.

(I also see you used my aerosled mock-up pic!)
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I think it's Carrie asking if that's her cue.
I think you're right, Moedred. It sounds like, "Is that the cue?" (Nice work on refining the transcript, by the way.)

For Carrie's other line, "I'll be good. I promise." Do you think it might be, "I can do it. I promise." and what do you make of what she says after about the Temple of Pain?
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Part of the dialogue is a riff on the argument Carrie Fisher had with Harrison Ford on the set of the carbon freeze as detailed in the excellent - Once Apon a time: A Journal on the Making of The Empire Strikes Back.
Oh my G_d! I have the book in storage and only read it once 30 years ago! Care to refresh my memory with the details, JJ?
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Old 12-30-2010, 02:57 AM   #52
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Here's the details...Carbon scene as scripted...

379. INT. CARBON-FREEZING CHAMBER - CLOUD CITY - BESPIN.

With Boba Fett in the lead, a squad of Stormtroopers bring in Han, Leia and Chewie. Strapped to Chewie's back, with only his head, torso and one arm assembled is Threepio. Threepio's head faces the opposite direction from Chewie's and the droid is constantly twisting around in a vain effort to see what's happening. His one attached arm is animate and expressive, intermittently pointing, gesturing and covering his eyes. The remaining pieces of his body are roughly bundled to the Wookiee's back. His legs and other arm stick out at odd angles from the pack. Vader turns to Boba Fett.

VADER
I'll make your goods easier for you to transport. Put Captain Solo in the zero-cold chamber.

BOBA
But the chamber is for power goods. What if he doesn't survive? This slime is worth a lot to me...

VADER
The Empire will pay for the loss. Bring him forward!

LEIA
No!

Chewie lets out a wild howl and attacks the Stormtroopers surrounding Han. Within seconds many Imperial reinforcements have joined the scuffle. The giant Wookiee is clubbed with laser weapons. From the instant of Chewie's first move, Threepio is screaming in panic while he tries to protect himself with his one arm...

THREEPIO
Wait! What are you doing?...Oh, no...Don't hit me! No! He doesn't mean it!...Calm down, you hairy fool!...Ouch! I didn't do anything...

The Stormtroopers are about to bash Chewie in the face.

HAN
Chewie, no! Stop it, Chewbacca!

Han breaks away from his captors. Vader nods to the guards to let him go and the pirate breaks up the fight.

THREEPIO
Oh, yes...stop, stop. Thank heavens...

Han gives the Wookiee a stern look, then a big hug.

HAN
Save your strength for another time, Chewie, when the odds are better.

Han winks at the Wookiee. Chewie barks a doleful farewell.

HAN
I'm sure I'll see you again, too. Keep well.
(turns to guard)
You'd better chain him until it's over.

In a flash the guards have slipped binders on Chewbacca, who is too distraught to protest. Han gives his furry friend a final hug and turns to Princess Leia. He takes her in his arms and she gives him a passionate kiss.

LEIA
...I love you. I couldn't tell you before, but it's true.

HAN
...just remember that, 'cause I'll be back...

He sheds his cocky smile and gives her a soft kiss on the forehead. Tears roll down Leia's face as she watches the dashing pirate walk to the hydraulic platform. Lando, too, watches with anguish. Imperial guards position Han on the platform and quickly bind his arms and legs. They step back. Han looks one final time at his friends and suddenly the platform drops. Han disappears into the steaming vat of sub-zero cold.
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Transcript...

June 21st, 1979
Stage 5, Elstree Studios
8 AM
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Arnold sets the scene: "We enter Stage 5, already throbbing with activity, and climb a stairway to the central platform where Kersh joins*director of photography Peter Suschitzsky, who is lighting the set for the long shot of the group's entrance. They take turns looking through the lens."
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Irvin Kershner: We've got to be very careful on this set never to put the frame-line on any strong horizontals. If we do, the light will be there as we follow the action, jumping in and out of that frame-line, and that worries me. Little things like that are so important. This set is so peculiar that we've got to keep watching tiny relationships of light like that. I'm also worried whether the set is too bright back there.

Peter Suschitzsky: (suspecting, perhaps, that Kersh is playing on the mike) I think you’re just worried about everything.

IK: Yes, I am worried about everything. Everything is important, especially little things like that.

PS: I thought that light was just fine.

IK: I want to steam it all up. I would like to see figures through steam. I know that’s hard on the light because steam washes your light out, but we’ve got to do something. (Kersh proceeds to direct the shifting of various lights.) We have to be very careful. Go back a touch. Now go all the way back. I want the camera back there out of the way. Yes, put it there. Move the lights. I have to move everything! I want it all hazy, all figures in space. I must do this now before I position my actors. Once I get them into position we’ll take two cameras and do the action, the whole bloody thing.
(Harrison Ford arrives, looking very much like student who has strayed off campus.)

Harrison Ford: Hi.

IK: Good morning. I tried to call you yesterday to talk with you about the scene. I was working on it and discovered a lot of things that look really illogical the way it’s presently set up.

HF: Yeah, it certainly is. And you’ve got one other problem. I tried to tell the art department about it some weeks ago. My shirt is wrong.

IK: That’s no problem. They’ll take the shirt off you when you go down into the carbon freeze.

HF: But this shirt has no sleeves.

IK: ****.

HF: Do you want us to talk in your trailer?

IK: Yes, but I want to set up the scene of your entrance first. This is really your scene, Harrison. It affects you more than the others. So we’ll lock ourselves away and talk.

HF: Well, I’ll go to make-up.
(Harrison leaves for make-up and Kersh prepares a lineup.)

IK: All right. I need a stormtrooper here, a stormtrooper there, and I want one over here.
(David Tromblin, the first assistant director, is beside Kersh now.)

IK: He doesn’t move well.
David Tromblin: Which one?

IK: That one over there. Was he there yesterday?

DT: Yes.

IK: Well, he must stop moving his head. I’m sure he wasn’t there yesterday. (He positions another stormtrooper.) Would you stand back please? Stand right in the corner, but don’t fall off. If you do fall off, there are boxes below. You won't get hurt. Whoops! Don’t stand quite so close or you will fall off.
(Kersh then positions Jeremy Bullock, the actor playing Boba Fett.)

IK: Jeremy, come along and stand here. Hold it. Hold it. That’s it, Jeremy. Try that. I also need a couple of guards. We have some, don’t we?

DT: We’ve got two.

IK: Two is all right. (Turns to Suschitzky) Something’s wrong. Can you lower one of those lights on the stairway? It would be nice to have it dim on the stairway.

PS: I can’t make it much dimmer without putting filters on, and there isn’t the light for more filters.

IK: Oh, I see.

PS: You are having much more steam than we thought. It makes for very low key.

IK: I wish I could have taken those lights out altogether. I want the lights to float. Just float.
(There is further positioning and the effect is again discussed.)

IK: (Peering through camera) I wonder where the strongest shot is when bringing the entire group in. Is there no other way than along the ramp? (Suddenly spotting an angle from the top of a flight of stairs leading from the platform.) Wait a minute. There’s something nice here. High angle! Oh, yes, this works. I never looked up here before. That’s the trouble with this set, you can't get away from it to look at it! Watch it, Dave!
(Tromblin has narrowly missed falling off the set. About an hour has been absorbed by the time the main camera angle has been chosen and the guards positioned. Kersh is now looking at the set-up through different lenses; the numbers he refers to are the focal lengths in millimetres of the lenses.)

IK: Oh, boy. I’ve got it. Got it! Hold it. I saw something really interesting through the 150. You can see their feet. Look what happens.

PS: You want to be in that tight?

IK: Yes, yes.

PS: You don’t want to see a wide angle?

IK: It looks good this way. Let me look at it with the 100 now. The 100 looks great, too. All right put a 100 in.

PS: Maybe we can combine the two.

IK: Yes, let’s have a couple of cameras up there.
(He calls for a run through with stand-ins.)

IK: Action! I like the heads going out for a moment, then the heads appearing, then going out. And this grab thing [the tong] just rising as they come around. I like the fact that all this is out of focus.

PS: While you’re here, have a look at a 50.

IK: It becomes just an ordinary walk with a 50. With a long lens it’s not an ordinary walk. I want to bring them in on some crazy shot so you don’t know where they are. They stop. You see them look over. Then I’ll cut in a couple of close-ups of Vader and Lando. When Vader says, “Put him in the carbon freeze…” Boom! Cut to a close-up of the reaction. Cut back to the long shot as the Wookie goes crazy. Everything starts happening. People start running. So, for a moment, you see the whole thing. But I want to withhold it. I don’t want to give it all at one go.
(Forty minutes later the decision is still proceeding.)

IK: Could the whole group come here please? You see, it works very well on the long lens. Right to the point where they’re in back of this grab thing as it’s moving. Cut to here and they’re going down and the thing continues to move.
(David Tromblin calls all the actors together to warn them yet again about the dangers of falling off the set. They try another run-through. The noise is cacophonous. There is shouting and banging as carpenters and grips put final touches to the set.)

IK: Excuse me, could you leave one stromtrooper here? Just one. Give me a stromtrooper to stand right here.

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DT: (To second assistant director) Steve, I need another stormtrooper.

IK: I’m wondering if we want that tong thing down…actually it could be rising up.

DT: Weren’t we going to have it come up as we pan across on the longer lens?

IK: Yeah, but the problem is it’s such a big thing it cuts everything out. It becomes a great black mass with no definition on it. It would be interesting to bring them in when the tong is moving, so they’re hidden behind it as the pit closes up. No, that’s too complicated.

DT: Why don’t I have them do it once so you can look at it?

IK: I’ll tell you what’s better. Let’s have the tong down as they come in and take their positions. Then we cut from their point of view and you see the thing rise up, revealing Vader standing there with Lando. He says, “Put them in the carbon freeze.” See what I mean?

DT: Keep the platform up?

IK: No, no, I want it down. Actually, the tong should just go down to the platform, just to touch the platform.

DT: And the platform stays there until Han actually gets on it.

IK: That’s right.

DT: (To a stagehand) Les, bring the claw down as far as it will go.

Les: The floor?

IK: No, the claw. The claw right down to the floor.

DT: Les, please lower the claw.

IK: (Exasperated) Just drop it down.

(They wait for the clawlike tong to be lowered)

IK: (Observing through camera) Yes, I’ve got an interesting pattern going now. With the tight lens I’ll take them all the way down till they disappear behind the claw, which is moving. They disappear behind it. We cut to a shot across that claw. As it rises, you see Vader.

DT: Excuse me interrupting. That claw. Does it go right into the pit?

IK: (Beside himself) Just put it down!

DT: Well, wait a minute, Kersh.

IK: (Still impatient) Leave the platform where it is. Just drop the claw.

DT: You don’t want to have it tucked in the platform?

IK: That’s all I need! Please leave it right where it is.

DT: Leave it where it is for the moment, Les. (To Kersh) Do you want to see the group in position?

IK: Yes.

DT: Come in, folks.

(Norman Reynolds, the production designer, has been waiting in the wings for a chance to talk to the director. He seizes the opportunity provided by the change of set-up to show Kersh a sketch of a window to be used on another set in a future scene.)

Norman Reynolds: It’s just a sketch. I never have time to give you a finished drawing, I’m afraid, but it’s this question of the window. Do we want a round window or a square window?

IK: Don’t we want a round window?

NR: That’s why I’m anxious that it comes to your attention now. We need enough of the window to take in a long shot and then you need to go close, right?

IK: No. No. No. Oh, yes.

NR: I just wanted to know. Gary has said he thinks it ought to be a square window.

IK: Why should it be a square window?

NR: Well, his thinking is that a square window suggests the idea of being on a ship.

IK: Don’t they have round windows on ships?

NR: We could make it whatever shape you like. We could make it round or whatever. That was just his feeling.

IK: Well, first of all, Luke is standing in front of it. We start very close, then we pull back and we see the people watching him. There they are, this whole group against this wonderful scene of the fleet. The scene is really out there through the window. Then Leia walks past him. We go with her coming to the window and standing looking out and…I don’t know, would a square window look elegant there?

NR: I’ll have to make one.

(Now the scene is Kersh’s trailer. Harrison has arrived to talk further about the scene to be filmed this morning. It is 11 AM)

IK: You see, Harrison, one thing I discovered that is going to affect us crucially is the fact that you have no way of knowing that you are going to be put in the carbon freeze. They bring all three of you in, but you don’t know anything. The princess doesn’t know anything. She just senses danger. None of you has ever been in this place. You don’t know what this place is. That’s the reality of the situation. So we have to add some lines.

HF: Yeah, there’s something missing.

IK: Right.

HF: I don’t have any lines. I’m on my way to an appalling fate and, well, it’s no time for a speech, but surely I should say something, try to talk my way out.

IK: You’ve got heavily armed people all around you. Why do you think that Chewie and Leia have been brought in, too? I know why they are brought in. It came to me last night. They are brought in so you will not make problems. If you try to make a break, if you try to jump them, try to do anything so as not to go into that pit, they’ll kill Chewie and Leia, too. They use them to subdue you.

HF: But they don’t use them well enough, do they? Chewie tries to fight them off, but I don’t raise a hand to help him.

IK: No, actually you stop him so he won’t get himself killed.

HF: But I stop him before I know that if he fights he’ll get himself killed. It’s in Han’s character to join Chewie in the fight. The bargain I’m likely to keep quiet for is if I’m convinced that Leia is safe because Lando has taken a shine to her.

IK: So we need another scene.

HF: No, all I have to do is ask Lando “What is going to happen to Leia?”

IK: “What is going to happen to them?”

HF: No, to her.

IK: All right, her.

HF: And he says, “She’s too beautiful to harm.” Something on that level. You know what I mean?

IK: He could say, “I’ll see she’s all right.”

HF: How about “She will be mine”?

IK: It’s a little, well…besides, by that time you know he’s stuck on Leia.

HF: Yeah, but how does the scene play? There’s no time for thought process.

IK: Suppose Lando walks in with you. No, let’s say he’s already there. Before Vader says, “Put him in the carbon-freezing chamber,” you come to a stop and…no, I’ve got another idea. He comes from the foreground. Suppose that before Vader comes in, Lando comes over to you and says, “Listen, fella, I just want to tell you,” but he doesn’t know how to phrase it. Nevertheless, you understand his position. You don’t like it but you understand it. No, that won’t work either. That assumes you know that you’re the one that’s going to go into the pit. That’s no good.

HF: Let’s just look at this, okay? Vader says, “Put him in the carbon-freezing chamber” and Boba Fett says, “What if he doesn’t survive?” It takes a moment for everyone to realize how callous it all is. But there are still questions to be answered. For example, what about Leia?
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IK: You still assume they’re going to do something to Leia, too, but you’re the one who’s going to be the guinea pig.

(Harrison rummages in Kersh’s fruit bowl.)

HF: Are there any more apples?

IK: Have this one. It’s been here a week but it’s still good. As I was saying, they’ve brought Leia and Chewie along to make you behave.

HF: But I don’t think there should be any “buddy buddy” stuff with Lando.

IK: Of course not. Lando, after all, is acting out of expediency. Wait. There is something interesting developing here. “What’s up, buddy?”… “What’s up, pal?” That’s your line to Lando.

HF: But I come in with my hands chained! Surely that gives me an idea of what’s up. I’m the only one who’s manacled.

IK: Right. But I don’t think you should be manacled when they send you down to the pit.

HF: I think I should be.

IK: (Still trying to devise the line.) “What’s up, buddy?” “What’s up, pal?”

HF: I think I should be manacled. It won’t stop the love scene. I mean I don’t have to put my arms around Leia to kiss her. I can’t see how they would indulge in more than a straight kiss in such circumstances. It has to be rough and brisk and over with.

IK: Absolutely. I don’t intend to mess around…”What’s up, buddy boy?”… in the love scene.

HF: As I pass by her, I think Leia ought to say very simply, “I love you.”

IK: (Tries it out) “I love you.” And you say, “Just remember that, Leia, because I’ll be back.” You’ve got to say, “I’ll be back.” You must. It’s almost contractual!

HF: If she says “I love you,” and I say “I know,” that’s beautiful and acceptable and funny.

IK: Right, right. You know what? I may keep Vader out of this till the end. When all this stuff is over, Vader walks right in and all he says is “Put him in the carbon-freezing chamber.” Why should he watch all this other stuff going on?

HF: He’s there because he’s telling Boba Fett what he intends to do with me.

IK: Then I guess he has to watch everything.

HF: He could walk away.

IK: No, he couldn’t. There’s no place to walk. (Laughs) I’m really stuck here.

HF: I think he could walk out and Boba Fett be the one to say, “Put him in the…”

IK: No, no, no, no…Boba can’t…No, no, no, no.

HF: Well, Vader has given me to Boba Fett.

IK: (Now wrestling with Boba Fett’s lines) “What if he doesn’t survive? He’s worth a lot to me.”

HF: I’m going to get a cup of coffee.

IK: “What if he doesn’t survive?”

(Kersh tries out several variations in Harrison’s absence and when the actor returns he’s still at it.)

IK: “What’s up, pal or buddy?”… “What’s up, pal?” That’s nice. It’s ironic. And he says, “You’re going to be frozen.” I don’t like frozen. “You’re going into the carbon-freezing chamber.” And he knows you’re likely to die if you go in there.

HF: I would know it, too!

IK: “You’re being put into carbon freeze.” How about that? And you ask, “What about them?” indicating Leia and Chewie.

HF: But I can’t say, “What about them?” I said the same thing in the cell scene we’ve already shot.

IK: So, instead of saying, “What about them?” you say, “They’re putting me in the carbon freeze,” and Leia asks why and you say, "It’ll make me behave better.”

HF: You don’t like “To make me more polite”?

IK: Polite is too obscure. Behave is much better because you’ve been a rascal, a thorn in their side. It implies a form of punishment. Leia says, “It could kill you,” and that sets Chewbacca off. (Reprising lines so far) “What’s up, pal”… “You’re being put in the carbon freeze”… “Why?”… “It’ll make you behave.” It is sadistic.

HF: Leia’s got to be the one to recognize how sadistic it is.

IK: “What’s up, pal?” “You’re being put in the carbon freeze.” “Why?” “It’ll make you behave.” No, it's too clever. The problem is I’ve got a two-part harmony going.

HF: I still don’t like “It’ll make me behave.”

IK: How about, “It’ll make me easier to transport.” You see, you’re a guinea pig, a substitute for Luke Skywalker, but we can’t say that.

HF: “What’s up, pal?”

Together: “You’re being put in the carbon freeze.”

(Later, on Stage 5 again, Kersh is joined by Billy Dee Williams.)

Billy Dee Williams: (Quietly) “You’re going to be put in the carbon freeze.” (Louder) “You’re going to be put in the carbon freeze.”

IK: (Joining him to speak Han’s line) “Why?”

BDW: “To keep you polite.”

IK: (As Boba Fett) “But that could kill him.” When Vader says, “Put him in the carbon freeze,” you’ve got to look angry as hell.

BDW: Where’s Leia at this point?

IK: Carrie’ll be right here and we’ll work that out.

(Carrie Fisher arrives. She has not yet been in make-up.)

Carrie Fisher: Hi…

IK: I’ve just changed the scene.

CF: I know. Harrison told me.

IK: I’ve just changed it because it didn’t answer one important thing: Why are you there to watch the execution? Why don’t they take him out of jail and just do it? It doesn’t make sense, does it?

CF: No.

IK: There’s only one reason. They do it to keep the victim from fighting, from trying to take people with him. Vader doesn’t want problems like that. He brings you along for that reason. You have to understand that, or otherwise you would just stand there like a lump. So I’m starting this scene in a situation where you have no idea why you’re there. Han says to Lando, “What’s up, pal?” very sarcastically. Lando says, “You’re being put in the carbon freeze.” But he feels miserable about it, powerless. Vader says, “Put him in the carbon freeze” and everybody goes nuts. I’ve changed the scene because the emphasis was on ignorance before. I don’t want it to be on ignorance, I want it to be on knowledge.

CF: No crying, no kissing.

IK: The kissing comes after. The change is just the beginning of the scene. The rest is the same. So I’m just giving everybody their new script pages…

CF: (Disconcerted) I don’t know where I am now.

IK: (Exasperated) All you did before was exclaim, “No!” That’s all you had. Do you want to say, “No!”? You can say, “No!”

CF: Well, I don’t know where I’ll be when he says, “Put him in the carbon freeze.” I could do a big gesture. I could slap Lando or something. How near is he to me?

IK: He’s right next to you.

CF: Could I slap him?

IK: What you really want to say is “You bastard,” but you can’t say that.

CF: Do I have to be so polite? There’s too much politeness about. I could just have the bad manners to slap him.

IK: All right, all right. Great. You look up at Lando and just slap him. Okay? At this point Vader says, “Put him in the carbon…” Now you can grab Han. You don’t want to let him go. Let’s not be rational. I don’t want to be rational at this point.

CF: Right, I don’t want to let him go. But if I do love him, how does he know I love him? Maybe if I threw myself in front of him?

IK: That’s possible. Then, immediately, two stormtroopers come and start pulling you away. That’s when Chewbacca goes crazy. It’s got to be physical action. Lines don’t do it. So let’s say you slap him. (Turns to Billy Dee) Billy, this is the most difficult scene I have in the film. I’ve been going around looking at each person’s point of view, right? I’ve got Boba Fett’s. I’ve got Han’s. I know Chewie’s. I’ve got Vader’s. I’m trying to get what Leia’s is. Right now she has absolute contempt for you. So instead of talking to you, she’ll attack you and at that point two guards come in to pull her off. You see?

BDW: Well, the only thing I feel about that is I’ve been attacked so many times in the movie.
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IK: It’s more interesting than lines.

CF: He could even slap me back.

IK: No, he couldn’t.

BDW: What happened to my line “I’m powerless”?

IK: That’s in. You say it to her when you quiet her down. What you are trying to convey is “I’m powerless, can’t you see, I’m powerless to help.” You’re trying to make her understand.

CF: What you’re really saying is that as a man you feel powerless.

BDW: Powerless means “I can’t.” I don’t think that’s right.

IK: (Turns to Carrie) Now you see what a problem it creates if you slap him.

BDW: Well, let’s just try it that way.

(Suddenly, Carrie gives Billy quite a powerful whack.)

BDW: Don’t hit me like that!

CF: Did it hurt?

BDW: Of course it hurt.

CF: I’m sorry. How do you hit someone?

IK: You telegraph it to him.

BDW: If you want to hit me, fake it.

IK: (Concentrating on the lines again) “What’s up, pal?” “You’re being put in the carbon freeze.” “Then why are they here?” “To keep you polite”…

(Ten minutes later…)

DT: (Rather confidentially) Kersh.

IK: Yeah?

DT: Do you want these little pin*****s of steam coming through or not?

IK (His mind on something else) Yeah, yeah.

DT: You do?

IK: Can I have my script? Somebody get my script. It’s on the floor. Thanks. Now, this is what we’re going to do. “What’s up, pal?” “You’re being put into carbon freeze.” “Why are they here?” “To make you behave.” Cut. And at that point…

(The steam is turned on. The noise is stupefying.)

IK: Oh, boy, I’m getting out of here. This is too much.

DT: Turn the steam down, boys.

IK: Turn it down a little. (The noise of the steam dies down.)

DT: Sorry, but we have to blow it up before we can turn it down.

IK: That’s all right. At this pressure it doesn’t make much noise. So while everybody’s getting dressed and ready, I’m going to…

DT: Everybody is dressed.

IK: Oh, are they? I gotta take a leak so bad.

DT: Well, go have your leak while I blow this steam pressure up again.

IK: Yes, blow it up. I’ll be right back.

DT: Watch it, Kersh, you’re too near the edge.

(The incredible noise of the steam at full pressure is heard again.)

(It is 12:50 PM and they’re nearly set for a take.)

IK: Carrie? Where is she? (Shouts) Carrie. (She comes over to him) We’re going to shoot in about five minutes. What’s going to happen is this—I’ve reversed the whole thing…

CF: You talk to Harrison about the changes, but I always feel that you do it behind my back.

IK: No, no, no, we haven’t rehearsed it yet.

CF: But I didn’t know until now.

IK: I couldn’t tell you before.

CF: I would just like to be there when you decide to change things.

IK: (Getting angry) You weren’t here to be there.

CF: (Shouts) I was in the studio!

IK: Okay. Okay.

CF: I yelled at Harrison about the changes.

IK: Don’t yell at Harrison. Yell at me.

CF: There’s no reason for me to be mad at Harrison.

IK: All right, all right. Okay!

CF: But when he came to me with the changes, I got mad at him and it screws us up.

IK: Where is Harrison?

DT: He’s downstairs. We’re getting him up.

CF: He is very angry with me. And he has a total right to be. I should not speak to him in that way…

IK: Okay, okay.

DT: We’re ready, Kersh.

(The steam starts; the voices get even louder.)

CF: Harrison shouldn’t have to come to me with the changes. You should.

IK: He was eager to.

CF: I know he was. And now I have to perform at half an hour’s notice scenes that have been all changed.

IK: Your performance is not changed.

CF: All I’m asking is to be invited to watch you guys get a scene together. It may not center around me, like this one doesn’t, but I’m involved in it.

IK: Okay. Are you clear about it now?

CF: Yes, the only thing I’m not clear about is…

IK: (To himself) Jesus, what a day! I’ve got problems with the actors. Everybody’s furious with everybody else…

(And still the sound of steam. Perplexed and harried, Kersh struggles on, only to be confronted by Dave Prowse, anxious to promote his newly published physical-fitness book. It is not an entirely welcome diversion.)

Dave Prowse: Kersh, I’m going to change the subject. Completely take your mind off all this. My book is just out.

IK: (Baffled) What book?

DP: I’ve written a book called Fitness is Fun and I want to give you a copy.

IK: Really? (Not very convincingly) I would love that.

DP: Yes, it comes out on Saturday.

IK: Great! Lovely! You actually have the time to write a book?

DP: It took me about nine months to write. It’s about exercising. It’s a textbook on weight lifting. You would love it.

IK: Weight lifting! Well, okay, I’ll buy one. (As an aside into the mike) Whew! Boy, this is some scene. It really is some scene.

(Later, Kersh talks to Prowse about Vader’s part in the scene.)

IK: Now, Dave…

DP: (Interrupting him) There’s going to be this big melee going on, isn’t there?

IK: No. There’s no melee. There’s no melee at all! When they finish the dialog you say, “Put him in the carbon freeze,” and that is the moment of realization of what is about to happen. Leia is horrified. She holds on to Han. Chewie goes berserk. Two stormtroopers rush forward… (The steam effect is nightmarishly loud) Jesus, I can’t work with all this steam going. I have to shut all the steam off and do the rehearsal without the steam. You could go nuts with this noise. I know they have to check it all out but...

DT: (Shouts to a stagehand) Steve, hold the steam.

IK: (With relief) Thank you.

DT: Okay, let’s go for a rehearsal. We do everything minus the steam. All right? Action!

(Steam starts slightly.)

IK: Minus the steam!

(The steam persists.)

IK: Oh, no!

DT: Hold your positions and keep quiet.

IK: We have to have the platform coming up, you see. The platform, not the tong. It should be coming up.

DT: Don’t you want to rehearse the whole piece?

IK: No. I want to do the shot now, up to the point where they do their dialog.

DT: All right, gentlemen, we’re going to shoot. Take your positions, please.

IK: (To the actors.) Just do the dialog as you did before.

HF: “What’s going on, pal?”

BDW: “You’re being put into the carbon freeze.”

HF: “Well, why are they here?”

BDW: “To make you behave.”

IK: You see, Billy, you really don’t know. You have to guess at what’s implied when Lando says, “To make you behave.” It’s ambiguous. (The steam is once more deafening) Oh, God! Who needs this?

DT: Stand by. We’re almost ready to shoot.

IK: (An aside into the remote mike) Almost ready for fate to take over! At least nobody has fallen off the set yet. I even have an impulse to jump. It looks so inviting.

(Hardly anything can be heard above the steam.)

DT: We’re going to shoot.

IK: I think you’ve got a little too much steam coming up on the left. We’ve got so many people up here. Jesus Christ! Is there anyone we don’t need?

(Activity on the stage is at a peak.)

DT: Here we go.

IK: All right. Action!

DT: (Very loud indeed) ACTION!

(They go into a take.)

IK: Cut! I don’t know why, but I saw something move up there. Let’s go again right away. Action!

DT: ACTION!

(At 1:45 PM the first shot is achieved. They go again.)

IK: Cut.

DT: That was a beauty, wasn’t it, Kersh? Everything worked. The timing worked fantastically.

IK: (Disappointed) Boba Fett started walking too soon. He screwed me up.

DT: You want to go again?

IK: Yes. Right away.

DT: One more try, please. Now, Boba, wait till Vader stops before you go across. Okay? Right, here we go. ACTION!

(The steam goes on again and they do a third take.)

IK: Cut! Print it. Print those last two takes.

(Kersh moves away from the camera, followed by David Tomblin.)

DT: What did you think of the last one, Kersh?

IK: (Although reluctant to give his opinion) Perfect. In fact, it was very nearly good.
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The video has found it's way onto the Sideshow Freaks board.

Anyone we know?

http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/fo...38#post3093638
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The video has found it's way onto the Sideshow Freaks board.

Anyone we know?

http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/fo...38#post3093638
Interesting to see the spread of something from "patient zero."

How long before someone digitally erases Stoo's Network ID?
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Interesting to see the spread of something from "patient zero."

How long before someone digitally erases Stoo's Network ID?

He's having a hell of a run though. Almost a thousand youtube hits in 2 days, that ain't chicken-scratch!
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@JuniorJones: Wow. You really went to town with those excerpts. Thanks a lot but I still can't tell which part of the prank is a "riff on the argument Carrie had with Harrison Ford". What am I missing?

@RocketSurgeon: It wouldn't surprise me if someone was working on it right now! (Heh, "Patient Zero". You is funny.) I enabled the embedding option to see how far it might spread.

@Indy's brother: Now it's 2450 views in 6 days. That's more than double the # of hits that some of the Old Indy clips have received in over a year!

@MontanaSmith: That could account for a lot of the traffic because (based on the # of people commenting) there appears to be much more interest about the clip amongst the Sideshow Freaks & Indy's bro's Facebook page than here at The Raven. (Which is sad.) What's puzzling is this:
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Here's where this began a few days ago, at The Raven, when my good friend Stoo posted the video:

http://raven.theraider.net/showthread.php?t=7394&page=2
Who is Kuat of Kuat? Is that you, Smiffy?
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What's puzzling is this:
Who is Kuat of Kuat? Is that you, Smiffy?

You have other good friends?

Kuat's another version of me. The Sideshow Freaks isn't as refined a bar as The Raven, so I don't post a lot there.

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I enabled the embedding option to see how far it might spread.
It should be interesting to see how the news outlets pick it up, especially after how they whored out the "Harrison Ford wants to kill Indy" Bull.

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Kuato's another version of me.
Do you look like Scarlet too?

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Do you look like Scarlet too?


I don't Recall seeing that before. She used to be such a cute kid. Let that be a warning: stay off the drugs.

Try this Kuat:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kuat_(person)

But I digress.

Again.
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It should be interesting to see how the news outlets pick it up, especially after how they whored out the "Harrison Ford wants to kill Indy" Bull.
"Interesting" is an understatement! Being the uploader, YouTube's Video Statistics function allows me to see where the file has been referred to or embedded. The history thus far:

1) Dec 28 - embedded on Facebook: I can't find where, though.
2) See below!
3) Dec 29 - embedded on an Indy website from Spain (with a review of my YouTube channel): http://www.indianajones.es/noticia-1054.html
4) Dec 29 - referred to by our very own mother site TheRaider.net Headlines: http://www.theraider.net/index.php
5) Dec 30 - embedded on Sideshow Freaks forum: As previously noted by my good friend, Montana Kuat!
6) Jan 02 - referred to on The Barbra Streisand Forum: http://thebarbrastreisandforum89123....practical-joke

Now for #2...
2) Dec 29 - Merely a couple of hours after Moedred posted his revised transcription, the video was embedded on a gay blog website called "Sissy Dude", hosted by a gay blogger named, John Webster. Along with the video, gay blogger Webster included the revised transcript but conveniently left out Streisand's final line! Judging by the timeframe, the site host UNDOUBTEDLY visited The Raven and got the transcript from this very thread! (I won't post the link since the site abounds with perverted, pornographic images.)

So a video of hunky Harrison getting whipped by a leather-clad Barbra in biker outfit is good enough for gay blogger, Sissy Dude John Webster but the line, "I feel like a faggot!" is not. What a sad, revisionist coward!
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"Interesting" is an understatement! Being the uploader, YouTube's Video Statistics function allows me to see where the file has been referred to or embedded. The history thus far:

1) Dec 28 - embedded on Facebook: I can't find where, though.
2) See below!
3) Dec 29 - embedded on an Indy website from Spain (with a review of my YouTube channel): http://www.indianajones.es/noticia-1054.html
4) Dec 29 - referred to by our very own mother site TheRaider.net Headlines: http://www.theraider.net/index.php
5) Dec 30 - embedded on Sideshow Freaks forum: As previously noted by my good friend, Montana Kuat!
6) Jan 02 - referred to on The Barbra Streisand Forum: http://thebarbrastreisandforum89123....practical-joke

Now for #2...
2) Dec 29 - Merely a couple of hours after Moedred posted his revised transcription, the video was embedded on a gay blog website called "Sissy Dude", hosted by a gay blogger named, John Webster. Along with the video, gay blogger Webster included the revised transcript but conveniently left out Streisand's final line! Judging by the timeframe, the site host UNDOUBTEDLY visited The Raven and got the transcript from this very thread! (I won't post the link since the site abounds with perverted, pornographic images.)

So a video of hunky Harrison getting whipped by a leather-clad Barbra in biker outfit is good enough for gay blogger, Sissy Dude John Webster but the line, "I feel like a faggot!" is not. What a sad, revisionist coward!

A most intriguing series of events.

Now do you feel like a father letting go of your first born, letting them make their own way in life, no longer able to control what they do or where they go? The way they're going, they're not going to earn that pith helmet.
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So a video of hunky Harrison getting whipped by a leather-clad Barbra in biker outfit is good enough for gay blogger, Sissy Dude John Webster but the line, "I feel like a faggot!" is not. What a sad, revisionist coward!

It's remarkable what a fan boy will turn a blind eye to in order to hold on to the heroes of their mispent youth!
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It's remarkable what a fan boy will turn a blind eye to in order to hold on to the heroes of their mispent youth!

Barbra was just hungry.



Very strange but on Wednesday I happened to mention to someone that long ago Ebay banned a listing I had for a porcelain "pair of blue tits", because they deemed the word "tits" to be offensive. The other person's story referred to a cultural faux pas they made with American guests: it went along the lines that they were having faggots for dinner.
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1) Dec 28 - embedded on Facebook: I can't find where, though.

You're not talking about when I did it on the 28th, are you? I remember seeing that it was also "shared" on FB either that day or a day later by someone on my friend list, but I don't remember who.

I honestly anticipated that the "faggot" line would be noticed by someone, and that (given the times we live in) it's utterance would have been more vehemently scorned, rather than just cut out. Perhaps this blogger was either tolerant of the time that it was shot, or that it came from Barbara, or both. Of course, this video was only recently set loose into the wild, there's still plenty of time for someone to get their panties in a twist over it. I guess it could be hard for some in the gay community to accuse Barbara Streisand of being homophobic. If Ford had said it in the clip for example, his career would have been over the day it was uploaded.
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Any porkin those?

What about those flaming things you suck on over there...cigarettes?

...or wood.

Aren't those faggots as well as your meat balls?
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I think they include anything from the slaughterhouse floor that doesn't resemble meat.

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What about those flaming things you suck on over there...cigarettes?

...or wood.

Aren't those faggots as well as your meat balls?

No, in the UK half a faggot really does refer to the other variety.
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No, in the UK half a faggot really does refer to the other variety.

It can be enlightening these sojourns into foreign culture...

I am secretly hoping for some fallout/scandal though!

I guess not so secretly anymore...
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It can be enlightening these sojourns into foreign culture...

I am secretly hoping for some fallout/scandal though!

I guess not so secretly anymore...

If you want to come out of the closet...

You could make a mix tape, or hit a club:

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If you want to come out of the closet...

You could make a mix tape, or hit a club:

Nah...rather hang out with Smithers if I must.



He did it first, (and best).
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What about those flaming things you suck on over there...cigarettes?

...or wood.

Aren't those faggots as well as your meat balls?

You're a cigarette.

(this may clear a few things up)
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(this may clear a few things up)

Phew! I thought you meant: THIS
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