The future of Indiana Jones

Indyman4

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tastethecourage said:
Trust me, if it were filming right now, we'd all know about it. I like your optimism, though! :whip:

Yeah I suppose. All I want an Indy movie.. or any other action oriented film to do is entertain me. If you're thinking that it's gonna be this life-changing experience then you're going to be disappointed no matter what. Just entertain me and I'm happy.
 

Indyman4

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deckard24 said:
Monkey nice thread!!:hat:

I too agree that if a fifth film is made they need to drop the Indy and friends motif they've been using since LC! Bring it back to basics and streamline the cast. An adventure with Indy and Mutt (and perhaps Sallah if necessary), but no Marion and no unecessary cameos! I personally would love to see an Indy film that returns to China, that would be a great setting for a new adventure. If they really wanted Shorty could make a cameo in that case, but that would exclude Sallah(which would be fine). They could have communist enemies once again since it would be in China in the late 50's, and this would at least keep some continuity with KOTCS.

OR... if it were to be in China, why not let the villains be Chinese? Honestly I think the Germans have had their day. People would be tired of seeing and hearing them. After two Indy films full of Nazis it's time to move on. I kind of like the Chinese idea. But if it were to be before KOTCS, ... how would Harrison look young enough? I mean unless it were like... 1 year before (like TOD to Raiders), I don't think that could work. Your thoughts my friend?
 

Benraianajones

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I personally see Raiders and LC as "brothers", and TOD and KOTCS as "sister" movies. The latter having a more "comic book" feel to them, though it isn't a bad thing!

I don't think a new Indy film would be as "outlandish" as CS - they have been dying to use an alien concept for a long time - and they've finally done it. I think the next movie, if one, would focus on a more "earthly" artifact.

Then you could look at your collection and say "thats the one were he goes for the ark, the one where he gets involved with a cult for the stones, the one where he is with his dad for the grail, the one where he gets the crystal skull thats linked to alien life" - and the new one? I'd hope for a Atlantis theme, but I don't think they could do it now.

But maybe some other lost city, but there has to be some all powerful deity's power at the center of it, ready to kill the evil ones that are infiltrating the place for negative use!
 

agentsands77

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Benraianajones said:
I'd hope for a Atlantis theme, but I don't think they could do it now.

But maybe some other lost city, but there has to be some all powerful deity's power at the center of it, ready to kill the evil ones that are infiltrating the place for negative use!
I dunno, KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL pretty much did the "lost city" idea. Best to try something a little different for a part V.
 

Benraianajones

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That is true - shame they didn't explore the city a bit more...and also another reason I doubt Atlantis would ever come to fruition as a movie.
 

Mickiana

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Deckard24 has the right idea with China as a new setting and I think the timeline has to go forward. Harrison can't play younger and younger Indys now. He was playing 6 years behind his real age in CS - I don't think he could get away with a larger difference. That way Mutt gets established more and some kind of continuation can happen. A return to a more Raiders feel would still be totally possible, far more than CS was going to achieve in that arena.
 

torao

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Unless the next installment opens with Indy waking up at the foot of those waterfalls (or on that plane to South America) realizing that everything from that moment on was just a weird dream, I really hope this film will never happen.

Both Spielberg and Ford seem to have developed an understanding of the role Henry Jones Jr. plays in those stories that is quite different to my very own perception of the character, what he should go through and the crazy **** that surrounds him.

I wish everyone would stop asking them about a fifth one, Harrison Ford would stop expressing any interest to make another one and a sequel of whatever kind wouldn't be as inevitable as it is...
 
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jason10mm

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I don't understand the difficulty with the MacGuffin. Isn't the whole idea of the MacGuffin that it just drives the plot without being anything particular? There are plenty of historic "treasures" that have intrinsic value without having a religious or supernatural connection.

To me a good Indy movie needs lots of good set-piece stunt, a scenery chewing villain, good comedic moments, exotic locales, and a few brawls. A world shattering MacGuffin isn't needed. A huge diamond, buried treasure, giant jade statues, personal writings of an important historic figure, all would work.

For example, Indy could find a relic in South America that refers to something buried in one of the pyramids. He goes there and finds that Napolean took it when he visited the pyramids. So he tracks around France to find it. But it was taken by a Brit after Waterloo and stashed in Wales somewhere. Who cares what it is exactly (evidence of transatlantic trade earlier than we thought, Ra's staff of power, recipe to really good beer), the point is that Indy has decided he wants it, some else wants it as well, and they travel to lots of cool places fighting to get it. Not terribly "epic", but it could make for a good flick if the writing and direction was sharp. I'd rather have frequent lesser adventures than one epic in scope journey every decade.

I also agree that Speilberg needs to hand over the direction to a younger, hungrier director.
 

Zorg

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There was the "haunted castle" idea at some point, maybe it was at the time they were working on Crusade. Maybe that could be developed into a fifth movie. And hire Lawrence Kasdan to write it. :gun:
 

bennihana123

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Zorg said:
There was the "haunted castle" idea at some point, maybe it was at the time they were working on Crusade. Maybe that could be developed into a fifth movie. And hire Lawrence Kasdan to write it. :gun:
I want Lawrence Kasdan.
 

blueseattle

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I actually really like the idea of making a prequel film like TOD. It could be set in 1955 and be a return, but also be spy like (since that's what they allude to in KOTCS) and that would sync it with the 60's spy like films.
 

guildnavigator

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Future??

I would love to have one of the movies center around Indiana's retirement from his university gig!
After he retires he could go on vacation to the Fiji Islands or something like that, and get involved in some kind of adventure.
Indiana Jones and the Spears of Fiji
 

muttjones

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whatever setting Indy 5 is in, as long as the character interaction is top notch the movie will be great.

What was so good about the first films is that while they were searching for the macguffin their was human problems and emotions going on as well.

Raiders: Indy's past with Marion and him eventually getting her back.
Doom: Indy's good nature to get the sankara stones for the tribe. His fatherly relationship with Shortround and his constant bickering with Willie.
Crusade: Indy's relationship with his father and with Elsa.

KOTCS had an awesome human part (Indy and his son + Marion) but they didnt focus enough on it. The film would have ultimately turned out better.

If there is an Indy 5 they need to focus on this aspect of the movies as much as the rest of it.
Indy's relationship part would be with Mutt. He has been too focused on his new Associate Dean job to pay attention too his son properly. Indy realises this halfway through the film and so tries to father him more.

Another part would be when Dean Charles Stanworth tells indy he is retiring and so offers the full dean job to him. This means total focus on his job and no more field work. Indy does no decide till the end of the film though.
Indy then agrees to go on an expedition with Mutt because he fears it may be his last.

And my final one would be Mutt getting the love interest. Mutt would be terrified of women and has not really had a girlfriend before. His immaturity with women would be interesting to watch because the girl could be a strong Marion type.

Those are my ideas. I think this aspect of the film is incredibly important because it is how we relate to the characters.
 

Crusade>Raiders

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If we do get another Indiana Jones, they gotta do it in the span of the next 3-5 years, because otherwise Ford will be too old for this ****(pun not intended).

Our hopes of getting a James Bond-style series was crushed after the loooooong wait it took for fourth movie, but I guess it goes to show quality > quantity because Raiders/Crusade > every Bond movie IMO, and I'm a Bond fanatic really. I think they're 5 or so Bonds I'd put above Temple, and about 8 I'd put above Kingdom. Goldfinger, Spy Who Loved Me, Never Say Never Again, Goldeneye, Thunderball, From Russia With Love, Casino Royale...those are really classics and it proves that you don't have to have the same director/actor to make a sequel.

Edit: oh, and Octo*****/Living Daylights should be up there too. Man, Quantam Solace better not disappoint; its got quite the legacy to live up too.
 
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The Man

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Crusade>Raiders said:
If we do get another Indiana Jones, they gotta do it in the span of the next 3-5 years, because otherwise Ford will be too old for this ****(pun not intended).

Our hopes of getting a James Bond-style series was crushed after the loooooong wait it took for fourth movie, but I guess it goes to show quality > quantity because Raiders/Crusade > every Bond movie IMO, and I'm a Bond fanatic really. I think they're 5 or so Bonds I'd put above Temple, and about 8 I'd put above Kingdom. Goldfinger, Spy Who Loved Me, Never Say Never Again, Goldeneye, Thunderball, From Russia With Love, Casino Royale...those are really classics and it proves that you don't have to have the same director/actor to make a sequel.

Edit: oh, and Octo*****/Living Daylights should be up there too. Man, Quantam Solace better not disappoint; its got quite the legacy to live up too.

http://raven.theraider.net/showpost.php?p=353918&postcount=107
 

The Man

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Crusade>Raiders said:
:D :D :D Oh SNAP I will be there! Thanks for pointing that out The Man!

I've been worried about the movie, because all the accidents going on set(stuntman getting seriously injured, cars slipping over the road into the water, Daniel Craig slicing off the top of his finger, etc), but I'm still stoaked for it.

I'm really excited by this movie, too. More action but still with the Casino Royale vibe. Most intriguing...(y)
 
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