Disney eyeing Chris Pratt

foreignerfred

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Temple of Pratt?

This pic of sideshow's TOD figure kinda' looks like:

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Finn

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Indy Jones said:
The idea of the franchise being refreshed makes me pretty cheery. Would I love another with Ford? Well yeah. I love Indy enough that I would very much love to see what Jones would be doing in his twilight years... but that's because I'm a weirdo. Non-weirdos, the people who make up 85-90% of the audience? You couldn't get them to be interested.

KOTCS made great money because of nostolgia (and because it was halfway decent, but I digress). A sudden, unexpected thrill to see Indiana Jones one more time. The feeling that made it work won't bouy more installments with an aging Ford. No regular folks who saw that gave thought to it being the first in a new series with an aged Ford. Had they, they would have responded less positively. It was viewed by regular folks as a one-time re-engagement before the character faded away.

Fanboys have to learn that the way they see their favorite franchises isn't the way non-fanboys see those franchises. That goes for everything from Transformers to Ghostbusters, Batman, the Star Wars prequels and yes, even Indiana Jones. Studios make films to please the masses, not the fans. Fans will accept odd things, the masses will show indifference.
Despite the kind words from my colleague and friend Pale Horse, I must say, it does feel quite humbling when you see someone express in just a few paragraphs the very thing you yourself had to say with an entire wall of text.
 

Raiders90

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As long as it is not a reboot, I'm open to it. If it's a reboot, to me that is a slap in the face.

It wouldn't be hard at all for Disney to have Ford in the film for 5, 10 minutes or so to set up a flashback to his 1920s, perhaps connecting it with a final adventure Ford's Indy is on. Have Ford in for like 10 minutes ala Mystery of the Blues, then bring us back in time to the '20s and the new guy's first adventure as Indy.

The series doesn't need to be reboot, and there is no reason on Earth to mess with the existing continuity. Just because you can reboot something and say "hey, fans, hey legacy - **** you!" doesn't mean you should. Why should it be rebooted?

There can be a dozen new Indys with a new actor ranging from 1924 to 1934 without bending the original continuity over a table and giving it the old Lucas one-two.
 

Lambonius

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I suspect they'll just be filling in the gaps in the timeline. Just because they relaunch the series with a younger leading man doesn't necessarily mean rewriting or erasing the existing films.
 

Duaner

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Raiders112390 said:
As long as it is not a reboot, I'm open to it. If it's a reboot, to me that is a slap in the face.

It wouldn't be hard at all for Disney to have Ford in the film for 5, 10 minutes or so to set up a flashback to his 1920s, perhaps connecting it with a final adventure Ford's Indy is on. Have Ford in for like 10 minutes ala Mystery of the Blues, then bring us back in time to the '20s and the new guy's first adventure as Indy.

The series doesn't need to be reboot, and there is no reason on Earth to mess with the existing continuity. Just because you can reboot something and say "hey, fans, hey legacy - **** you!" doesn't mean you should. Why should it be rebooted?

There can be a dozen new Indys with a new actor ranging from 1924 to 1934 without bending the original continuity over a table and giving it the old Lucas one-two.

I think most Indy fans would be on board with the idea of Harrison Ford bookends. If done right, it could give an appropriate send-off to Ford as Indy and would make the transition to the younger Indy smoother. Like you say, it would also show that all of those favorite films of ours still exist and that these new ones are prequels set in the same timeline.
 

Z dweller

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Pale Horse said:
There is so much to this post I find it hard to know where to begin, I think film students wanting to submit a thesis would be wise to consider the widsom above. There's much to it and much to be taken from it.
Yes, this thread is on fire!
Progressionists vs Ford fundamentalists, the revenge: now it's personal :p

Joking apart, it should be clear to everyone that the odds of Ford leading the next movie are practically zilch, for all the reasons so eloquently spelled out by Finn and Indy Jones.

The fundamentalists' views are skewed: essentially they see themselves pitted against a bunch of "Ford detractors" (sic) who hate the only man who can ever play Indy.

Nobody who posts on these boards can ever be a Ford detractor, by definition.
At the same time, most of us here at the Raven simply don't want to see Indy 5 set in the 60s starring an actor in his mid-seventies.

Whether it's Pratt or someone else to get the role, only time will tell.
But one thing is for sure: we will get more Indy movies, and Ford cannot be part of them in any meaningful way - get over it.

What counts for all Indy fans is that we are going to see more of our favorite character, and that's great news, whichever way you look at it. (y)
 
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Raiders90

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Duaner said:
I think most Indy fans would be on board with the idea of Harrison Ford bookends. If done right, it could give an appropriate send-off to Ford as Indy and would make the transition to the younger Indy smoother. Like you say, it would also show that all of those favorite films of ours still exist and that these new ones are prequels set in the same timeline.

Yeah, a (Chris Pratt) Indy could EASILY exist in continuity with the original films. There's 15 years' worth of time for him to fill in, without stepping on the original films. Have Ford cameo in the first one to establish it's in the same continuity, have the new guy take over and I'd accept it with open arms, so long as it was good.
 

indytim

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The Stranger said:
Indiana Jones is NOT a franchise.

Somebody better tell Disney Theme Parks, LucasArts, Marvel, Random House and all the other companies who have been profiting from using the Indiana Jones brand for years then!

It is a franchise. To quote, "a media franchise is a collection of media for which components exist in multiple forms, such as film, literature, television, or video games. It generally involves the licensing of intellectual property (IP) to other parties and partners for commercial exploitation across a range of mediums and by a variety of industries for merchandising purposes."

Hence 'Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis' video game by LucasArts, Disney Theme Park's Indiana Jones Epic Stunt Spectacular, the action figures, the t-shirts, the Lego sets, etc. Indiana Jones is the intellectual property and he's been licensed ever since Raiders hit.

You can find details about the franchise on the Indiana Jones wiki ... http://indianajones.wikia.com/wiki/Indiana_Jones_(franchise)
 
It's nonsense PRATT will not be in Indy he's doing the jurassic world series like I said plus he's obliged to do the next 5 guardians of the galaxy films. And I think even Disney know he's not the top man for the job.

I've watched him in Jurassic world film private screening, and it's like he's forcing him self to be serious and play straight, instead of the big goof idiot joker clown,he's known for.

Ford went to Steven house and stayed many hours, do you really think there gonna let a kid take there property? ""Ford will be in the film from start to finish, he only did episode 7 because he demanded his last Indy film with the mouse big knobs.

Please wake up.
 

Finn

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Túrin Turambar said:
I've watched him in Jurassic world film private screening, and it's like he's forcing him self to be serious and play straight, instead of the big goof idiot joker clown,he's known for.
Then you better pray the suits at Disney agree with you. Only a fool would take it for granted, though. It's one to thing disagree, but whole another to present your personal opinion as an universal fact and demand others agree.

Túrin Turambar said:
Ford will be in the film from start to finish, he only did episode 7 because he demanded his last Indy film with the mouse big knobs.
You have a source for this? If not, it's still nothing but wishful thinking.

Túrin Turambar said:
Please wake up.
Yes, because all these people hammering you Ford wishfuls with facts about the film industry just must be living in some kind of delusion.

But I see you've got to the pleading and bargaining part in the five stages of grief. There there, that's good. Only one to go before acceptance.


The thing is, as long as there's nothing but rumors, nobody can say it's gonna be Pratt. Maybe, maybe not. But anybody with an inkling of an idea on how Hollywood works can be fairly certain it's not going to be Ford.
 

indytim

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Túrin Turambar said:
It's nonsense PRATT will not be in Indy he's doing the jurassic world series like I said

Well, if you say so then I guess it must be true :confused:

Túrin Turambar said:
plus he's obliged to do the next 5 guardians of the galaxy films. And I think even Disney know he's not the top man for the job.

Nonsense! Pratt may have signed a multi-movie deal with Marvel but that would suggest a trilogy of GotG movies at best. The Marvel contracts all the MCU actors sign mean that they will star in some of the movies and make fleeting cameo appearances in others.

Túrin Turambar said:
I've watched him in Jurassic world film private screening, and it's like he's forcing him self to be serious and play straight, instead of the big goof idiot joker clown,he's known for.

So you're basically saying he's acting. Because he's an actor. And that's what they do :confused:

Túrin Turambar said:
Ford went to Steven house and stayed many hours, do you really think there gonna let a kid take there property? ""Ford will be in the film from start to finish, he only did episode 7 because he demanded his last Indy film with the mouse big knobs.

Did you ever consider that Harrison Ford and Steven Spielberg are old friends and socialise from time to time? I'm sure 'talking Indy' isn't the only reason they ever get together. And Indy's fate now is in the hands of Disney. Ford and Spielberg may have some influence in the future films but in the end it comes down to whoever is signing the cheques (i.e. the studio).

Túrin Turambar said:
Please wake up.

Yes, please do so. :sleep:
 
Yes Steve and Harry are very good friends....But this March Harry got in his new fancy car...and made the very long 13 h 53 min (965.8 mi) journey from his home in Jackson WY..To his old friend in Steven Spielberg that lives in Los Angeles!!!!.

So your telling ME? He drove 14 hours on his own hoping to be undetected? Just to have a chat with his mate?? He was there all night, Steve wife was there The same Women that Indy Boy had a fling with to was their...so either they had a threesome which I very much doubt.

Or this was Harry getting serious about bringing back his beloved character...No?

I hope Harrison is laughing at this stoned, as he knows I'm right.
 

Finn

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Túrin Turambar said:
Yes Steve and Harry are very good friends....But this March Harry got in his new fancy car...and made the very long 13 h 53 min (965.8 mi) journey from his home in Jackson WY..To his old friend in Steven Spielberg that lives in Los Angeles!!!!.

So your telling ME? He drove 14 hours on his own hoping to be undetected? Just to have a chat with his mate?? He was there all night, Steve wife was there The same Women that Indy Boy had a fling with to was their...so either they had a threesome which I very much doubt.

Or this was Harry getting serious about bringing back his beloved character...No?

I hope Harrison is laughing at this stoned, as he knows I'm right.
So where's the story that states all this? I looked left and right and couldn't find one. Some scattered reports about the visit, but nothing on him driving all those miles or that visiting his old friend Steve was the main reason of his visit. Maybe he was there on some other business altogether and just took the opportunity to stay the night.

So perhaps it'd be prudent to remind you that if you saw some wild speculation and let your mind fill in the blanks... that does not make it true. But it does make you telling people to wake up even more ironic, since you're practically telling them to buy something you just crafted together all by yourself.

Bottom line, unless you were there, all you're trying to sell us is stuff straight from fantasy land. It's anybody's guess of course how close said fantasy could be to reality, but if you've got no hard data to back up your claims, you can't blame the sensible, grown-up folk taking a rain check when it comes to going against a few select, well-known things about the Hollywood marketing machine.

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Now, as much as I'd love to continue this little dance, just between regular members, I must wear my mod hat for a moment and remind everybody that yammering on about things that have required some serious leaps in logic while putting them together have never made particularly fruitful conversation pieces. And that they have, in extreme cases, lead to forceful removals from the premises - since they could be, whether intentional or not, interpreted as trolling. Nothing to warrant that in here yet, but next time you better come up with external sources for claims like these if your aim to is to maintain a continued presence. That is all.
 
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Finn

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TheFedora said:
"A Friend of a Friend of a Friend." is what I think is going on here.
Technically that's just two degrees of a friend.

Still, knowing how this stuff works, guess we can expect an official denial coming in soon. Or at least something in the lines of "we're still looking for the right option". Which may or may not be reduced to one already.
 

Raiders90

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Why are all you guys so against Ford playing Indy again? And like, acting utterly condescending to the people who want the guy who pretty much made the character to continue in the role? I mean I'm all for new blood but to talk down to the 'Ford fanboys' like children...It makes it sound like some of you actually dislike Harrison Ford. "Ford Fanboys" like Harrison Ford is some clown. I mean it's clear some of you don't want him to play Indy again. It's clear some of you are hoping he kicks the bucket soon. But those who don't want that, they don't deserve to be condescended to either.
 

Silvor

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Yeah this condescending tone towards the folks who wants Ford to reprise the role again is disgusting. One would think a Indiana Jones message board for fans of the series was above using immature talk like that, but alas.
 

Finn

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Raiders112390 said:
Why are all you guys so against Ford playing Indy again?
I wonder how useful it is replying to someone with the attention span of a goldfish, given the inability to read and comprehend the last 15-20 posts in the thread, which pretty much answer this question. (Sorry, was that condescencing?) But eh, repetitio est mater studiorum...


The reality is that in order to have Indiana Jones, you can't just dress Ford in the clothes and present the man to the grand audience as such. As much as Ford may own the role on the big screen, the character itself also needs the proper surroundings to function. In Indiana Jones' case, that is a pulpy version of the early part of the 20th century, ideally the 30s or the 40s.

Harrison Ford's advanced age would put a possible Indy 5 into the 60s at least, and Indy is NOT a character of the swing decades. While the fans of Ford wouldn't probably care all that much because they've still got the man they want, it would still be quite unorthodox and most definitely somewhat jarring as well, especially to those for whom the nature of the character matter as much as the man playing him.

The main reason for the slightly overlooking tone towards the Ford fundamentalists comes however from the fact that they seem to overlook the fact that a 70something leading man in a major action blockbuster is pretty much a pipe dream given how the Hollywood operates, no matter how good in shape said man is for his age. It's easy to get irritated with someone who seems to live on a completely different plane of reality, given how there really isn't a slightest hint towards Ford returning to the role (while there is, however, increasing buzz surrounding a recast) - yet the fundies are grasping at straws, trying to bolster their view with any piece that does not explicitly say Ford's not going to be Indy again. If there was a report that Ford and Spielberg were spotted standing next to each other at an urinal in a McDonald's restroom, the fundies would likely say that they must have found it a good, private place to discuss the latest developments on an upcoming Indy film, while Occam's razor pretty much concludes that they were just stopping for a snack and a leak.


The idea of Ford reprising the role isn't really disgusting. What's disgusting is the lack of common sense it takes to suggest such a thing and not realize that it really is a very loooooong shot at best. It's also disgusting to see that people who think it is a good idea somewhat presume the world at large must agree with them, while common evidence actually suggests otherwise. The considerate thing to do is to understand that one may be in the minority, but then crossing the fingers and hoping that someone will humor them anyway.
 
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