HALF A CENTURY OF THE GERMAN MOON BASE
(1942 - 1992)
The Germans landed on the Moon as early as probably 1942, utilizing their larger exoatmospheric rocket saucers of the Miethe and Schriever type. The Miethe rocket craft was built in diameters if 15 and 50 meters, and the Schriever Walter turbine powered craft was designed as an interplanetary exploration vehicle. It had a diameter of 60 meters, had 10 stories of crew compartments, and stood 45 meters high.
In my extensive research of dissident American theories about the physical conditions on the Moon I have proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that there is atmosphere, water and vegetation on the Moon, and that man does not need a space suit to walk on the Moon. A pair of jeans, a pullover and sneakers are just about enough. Everything NASA has told the world about the Moon is a lie and it was done to keep the exclusivity of the club from joinings by the third world countries. All these physical conditions make it a lot more easier to build a Moon base.
Ever since their first day of landing on the Moon, the Germans started boring and tunnelling under the surface, and by the end of the war there was a small Nazi research base on the Moon. The free energy tachyon drive craft of the Haunebu-1 and 2 type were used after 1944 to haul people," materiel and the first robots to the construction site on the Moon. When Russians and Americans secretly landed jointly on the Moon in the early fifties with their own saucers, they spent their first night there as guests of the .... Nazi underground base. In the sixties a massive Russian - American base had been built on the Moon, that now has a population of 40,000 people, as the rumour goes. After the end of the war in May 1945, the Germans continued their space effort from their south polar colony of Neu Schwabenland. I have discovered a photograph of their underground space control centre there.
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inky_skin said:Don't know about you Montana, but I'm getting a slightly Daily Sport vibe from this (National Enquirer for all you non-Brits)
Montana Smith said:Can't see that page, but the teaser is funky...
The original link worked for me. And for what it's worth, at least I don't see anything behind it that could lead to any kind of moderatorial smiting.inky_skin said:I've only embedded a link here and not the image due to the dubious nature of Sunday Sport content.
Finn said:Monty here for example is a far worse offender with some of his "Rugged Men" covers...
00Kevin said:really disappointed that this is going to be a silly parody. this would have been a pretty awesome film to see if it was done as a serious, dark suspenseful film
god, i want this to be awesome. but it's gonna suck
inky_skin said:It's raising a few eyebrows in Berlin...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/entertainment-arts-17046477
A Finnish sci-fi comedy about Nazis invading Earth has become the most talked-about movie at this year's Berlin Film Festival.
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The Independent's Kaleem Aftab has praised Iron Sky, saluting its "over-the-top storytelling at its riotous and enjoyable best".
Yet The Guardian's Andrew Pulver called it "a giant damp squib" that was "not nearly as funny or cruel as its killer premise suggests".
London's Time Out magazine agreed with that assessment, calling it "a crude slapstick romp wholly lacking in charm, wit or excitement".
Dude. It's a film about Nazis who invade Earth after hiding for 80 years in the moon. I'm not saying you can't make a serious film about Nazis since you can and it's been done, but when you have them living on the moon and still relying on WW II technology, I'd say the Downfall approach is pretty much out of the window.00Kevin said:this would have been a pretty awesome film to see if it was done as a serious, dark suspenseful film
What I've heard of it so far, it's more like one of those films that will divide the base between professional and layman opinions. In other words, the critics will hate it but the general audience ends up loving it. I mean, isn't that what that story pretty much implies? It's being talked about so it's definitely causing buzz, a debate if you will. The critical reception is nothing to write home about, but apparently someone out there likes it as well.Montana Smith said:Doesn't sound like the film is going to live up to the design.
Finn said:Dude. It's a film about Nazis who invade Earth after hiding for 80 years in the moon. I'm not saying you can't make a serious film about Nazis since you can and it's been done, but when you have them living on the moon and still relying on WW II technology, I'd say the Downfall approach is pretty much out of the window.
It's more about the format than anything though. If this was, say, a video game instead of a movie - and the visual imagery certainly would be fitting for that - then it might work and even genuinely fall into the crazy awesome category because the visuals and solid gameplay are much more relevant than a story and having it filled with throwaway gags might even be distracting.
Still, this is one of the main reasons why Ed Wood was such hilariously bad filmmaker as he was, as he was completely genre blind. One Take Eddie gave all the plots he was handed the very serious treatment, no matter how outlandish they were.
Going the comedy route is the way to approach this theme, though it remains to be seen whether the type of comedy chosen was all correct. If it's full of hit'n'miss jokes it can still be a bad film, but if you really attempt to present words such as "dark and suspenseful" in this context... hit the floor and give me twenty. Now.
What I've heard of it so far, it's more like one of those films that will divide the base between professional and layman opinions. In other words, the critics will hate it but the general audience ends up loving it. I mean, isn't that what that story pretty much implies? It's being talked about so it's definitely causing buzz, a debate if you will. The critical reception is nothing to write home about, but apparently someone out there likes it as well.
You have a point there. It's just that arguing for a film like that is a moot point, considering it could not have been made from the current historical context.Montana Smith said:It's a little like the ROTLA situation, which is a film you can invest in, even though it plays with history. It's a case of pushing the limits from a flying wing in 1936 to space travel within ten years. A what if scenario.
German Moonbase Alpha was originally a way out conspiracy theory, but it became perfect pulp territory. I know where 00Kevin is coming from, as the film could have been as serious in tone as ROTLA rose to on occasion.
Finn said:You have a point there. It's just that arguing for a film like that is a moot point, considering it could not have been made from the current historical context.
Kurt Vonnegut once said in reference to his famous novel Slaughterhouse Five that to "give a serious approach to a subject, you'll have to learn to laugh at it first".
Now, this is technically a German film. The director and key production crew are Finnish, but it was made with German money and most of the cast are actual Germans. Which makes this pretty much the first German film in existence where Nazis are not represented either as fully demonized entities or in tragic light.
There was a comment from a random German moviegoer who had just seen Iron Sky which pretty much summed it up: "I view this film as a sign of us finally making peace with our history."
Despite this all, I don't mean to imply it's a larger-than-life movie. It's a small-budget comedy romp which apparently had its origins are in a silly little throwaway gag being presented in a drunken sauna party. But it's still a step that needs to be taken before the film you and Kev here pine after can be made.
Finn said:This concludes Dr. Finn's history lesson today. For the next time, read chapter six of Michaelson, chapter four of Darwin and chapter seven of Törhönen. If you need to see me, I'll be in my office during the regular hours. And if the dog ate the new copy you acquired as well, bring the dog.
With all due respect, 00Kevin, the situation is not equivalent because, "300", is based on a true story (and had already been made into a movie back in 1962 as "The 300 Spartans"). The same cannot be said for "Iron Sky".00Kevin said:To me this whole situation is the equivelant to? you come up with the great idea to do a story about 300 spartans fighting an endless barrage of Persian warriors, but rather than making ?300? you make ?Meet the Spartans?. This film just looks like an ultra low class version of a great film.
Then, maybe this other film would be more to your liking: Frankenstein's Army00Kevin said:This is such a great concept to make a film, I think Nazis are the best movie villains and bringing in a slightly futuristic, sci-fi element creates a great opportunity to do something special.
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I?m looking for a film with fresh ideas, a unique world, but done in a believable and high-quality fashion.
Sounds like you've written it off (without seeing it, obviously) simply because you think this should have been a "serious" film. That's one way to go I guess, but I think I'll wait 'til I've actually seen it so I can judge whether it was, you know, good or bad comedy.00Kevin said:That's interesting about the quote where the Germans’ come to peace with their past and makes sense. But I'm still standing by my previous statement. Despite that comment there is no case strong enough compelling me to see the film. Considering how many films I watch, and the fact that I enjoy WW2 films, conspiracy films, sci-fi and comedies... Theoretically I should be in the right demographic for this film, but I’m turned off by it. Ok, maybe this film is intended for Germans, but there was a chance to do something really special with this film and the trailer implies a very childish humor level.
Likewise, and figured the same. Also wanted to avoid any homerism charges.Stoo said:P.S. Awhile back, I was going to start a thread about, "Iron Sky", but decided not to with the confidence that someone else eventually would...Sure enough, here it is a half a year later!