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Old 03-07-2008, 12:19 PM   #76
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I'd like to know why they decided to pack the Ark in with Map Room Indy for the deluxe set. Don't get me wrong, I am grateful for both (though I wish the Ark had the poles or at least the rings) but the two don't go together. Indy is never with the Ark in that get up

That is the one Deluxe set that makes absolutely NO sense! The pack-in figure for the Ark of the Covenant without the rings or carry-poles should have been Ceremonial Belloq! As a single carded figure he may end up a pegwarmer.

The Map Room Deluxe Indy is lacking several key components. A recreation of the map room base from the Kenner line would have fit very nicely in back of the figure flat against the cardback. The original base was small enough. There is no staff of Ra! With these 2 accessories missing, the existing Deluxe Indy in Arab Disguise figure is nice, but could have been paired up with more of a Map Room theme.
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Old 03-07-2008, 01:30 PM   #77
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That is the one Deluxe set that makes absolutely NO sense! The pack-in figure for the Ark of the Covenant without the rings or carry-poles should have been Ceremonial Belloq! As a single carded figure he may end up a pegwarmer.

The Map Room Deluxe Indy is lacking several key components. A recreation of the map room base from the Kenner line would have fit very nicely in back of the figure flat against the cardback. The original base was small enough. There is no staff of Ra! With these 2 accessories missing, the existing Deluxe Indy in Arab Disguise figure is nice, but could have been paired up with more of a Map Room theme.

It almost seems like they were just doing ANYTHING to put an ARK out there.....The no poles is a factor for me as well. However, I'm thinking that Hasbro added a crate that will fit the ARK in the truck packaging. Also, you are correct in stating that the deluxe accessories are MUCH bigger than the map room set. Take the set that I have now, it is 2x the size of the Maproom.

The map room would have been a very easy item to re-mold. Who knows, Hasbro has probably thought about this to some degree but as much as I am glad to get the Ark and Desert Indy, It looks like a half baked idea.

Considering how large the deluxe playsets are ( and in relation to the old map room playset, these could be called playsets)
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Old 03-07-2008, 09:21 PM   #78
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Can't help but to agree with you! Those little trap enviro's do make swell little playsets. The deluxe line seems to be the one of the easiest methods to deliver key Indy scenes and give play/display value for the figures!

Just imagine what they could accomplish for the three trials from TLC.

The Breath of God - easy. A small stone pathway lined with stone walls, (some waist high). Pop-out circular blades that are hidden in the cracks and can be "triggered".

The Word of God - easy. Wide plastic stone base, (hollow, about 1 inch and a half high). Punch through plastic lettered "tiles" spelling Jehovah, only correctly with an "I".

The Path of God - a little more complex and may need to be marketed as a low-cost playset, but easy enough to execute.
Think this idea, all in stone with a removable plastic rock bridge with the exact same scheme painted as the abyss below - http://www.rebelscum.com/POTF2deaths...apeplayset.asp
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Old 03-11-2008, 07:35 AM   #79
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Yep - presentation was all we got. I plan on following this point up in the next round. However, I think if Mola Ram has already been seen as a Mighty Mugg, he's pretty much guaranteed in this wave. If I were a betting man (which I am - try me), I'd go for the following assortment...
  • Indiana Jones - Rope Bridge Battle (no-brainer - another distinct Indy variant - and Hasbro loves the 'battle damaged' deco's)
  • Indiana Jones - Club Obi Wan (not 100% certain on this inclusion - the only alternative is 'Professor Indy' from Pankot Palace)
nb - two Indy's in this Wave follows the pattern of Waves 1-2
  • Willie Scott - Rope Bridge Battle (shirt/pants combo is more likely than alternate 'Club Obi Wan' variant)
  • Short Round (99.9% certain)
  • Temple Thug (confirmed)
  • Mola Ram (high probability)
Believe there were only 6 figures slated for this wave. The only swap-out I can image would be Indy / Club Obi Wan - perhaps in favour of a generic Thuggee.

Are there any more comic/collecting events before September where Hasbro might traditionally preview additional figures - SDCC perhaps ?

Mate you have missed a few things here. The TOD DEFINATELYwont have Mola, Willie and Short Round. Hasbro are saying that in the answer when they say the remaining one(s) will come next year!

They obviously mean the wave will be revelead at SDCC when they say Toyfair, - typo.

You say Mola Rom is guaranteed cos there is a Mighty Mug of him -WTF? What sort of logic is that??????

My big worry is they hold off on a few big hitters, then the whole line gets cancelled and they new get made noooooooooooooo. I really dont see this line lasting beyond 5 or 6 waves of figures.
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:56 AM   #80
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Wow - you are very certain in your opinions and statements.

You must be a Hasbro insider, huh?
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Old 03-11-2008, 11:50 AM   #81
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Wow - you are very certain in your opinions and statements.

You must be a Hasbro insider, huh?

No no not at all. Just re-read Hasbros answer in light of the points I was making.

Its a direct quote regarding the three specific TOD figures - no interpretation needed.

And as for the TOD line up, they say it will be revealed at the "Toyfair", now it cant be just a case of them just forgetting, since they did prepare a teaser slide to show only the Giant Thugge. Which means they are referring to some other event.
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:55 PM   #82
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You say Mola Rom is guaranteed cos there is a Mighty Mug of him -WTF? What sort of logic is that??????

*Sigh*

Remind me when we ruled that someone couldn't express an opinion around here without getting bawled out.

My logic is simple: ToD is a hot-potato to some licensees. Lego won't touch it. I figured that if Mola Ram has been confirmed in one Hasbro line, it's logical as a key character from the movie that he'd appear in the first wave of the 3 3/4 " line. As I've had the opportunity to talk directly with Hasbro about the line, I've asked them to re-confirm their statement.

Incidentally 'mate', if we'd met in person and you'd addressed me in such a tone, I'd be taking a more physical response to your outburst.
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:56 PM   #83
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Hasbro makes mistakes ALL the time.

They also conveniently "run out of time" during their presentations and
Q & A's!
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Old 03-11-2008, 01:19 PM   #84
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*Sigh*

Remind me when we ruled that someone couldn't express an opinion around here without getting bawled out.

My logic is simple: ToD is a hot-potato to some licensees. Lego won't touch it. I figured that if Mola Ram has been confirmed in one Hasbro line, it's logical as a key character from the movie that he'd appear in the first wave of the 3 3/4 " line. As I've had the opportunity to talk directly with Hasbro about the line, I've asked them to re-confirm their statement.

Incidentally 'mate', if we'd met in person and you'd addressed me in such a tone, I'd be taking a more physical response to your outburst.

hey lets all be friends here! Its just figures.
If I have upset you I didnt mean to.
That was your opinion and I put mine. I get excited trying to figure out whats next too. I just thought Mola isnt really guaranteed (just yet) at all.
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Old 03-11-2008, 01:20 PM   #85
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Hasbro makes mistakes ALL the time.

They also conveniently "run out of time" during their presentations and
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true, true, but you have to admit their answer didnt make sense and it was most likely a typo and they meant some ofther event in the future.
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Old 03-11-2008, 01:35 PM   #86
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Hasbro has made a lot of announcements via their own product site, (rarely these days), as well as in the Q & A sessions. They should stick to their word, however.

Anything is possible.
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Old 03-11-2008, 02:11 PM   #87
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I just don't see them not giving us Mola Ram in the first wave of TOD figures...it's inconceivable
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Old 03-11-2008, 02:34 PM   #88
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That is exactly what it would be!

Can you imagine a TOD wave, the FIRST one and it would be missing Mola Ram? How senseless. Who would they include as the main bad guy? Chattar Lal?

Let's see -

Thuggee Guard
Indiana Jones with torn shirt, bruises
Willie Scott, (Thuggee Sacrifice)
Short Round
?
?
?
Nope - no Mola Ram. Can't do it. Too graphic. Too horrible of a bad guy.

LJN did it in their series of only 3 figures back in 1984, (I remember, I was there!), so I am almost positive that Hasbro will include him in wave 4.
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Old 03-11-2008, 02:36 PM   #89
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That is exactly what it would be!

Can you imagine a TOD wave, the FIRST one and it would be missing Mola Ram? How senseless. Who would they include as the main bad guy? Chattar Lal?

Let's see -

Thuggee Guard
Indiana Jones with torn shirt, bruises
Willie Scott, (Thuggee Sacrifice)
Short Round
?
?
?
Nope - no Mola Ram. Can't do it. Too graphic. Too horrible of a bad guy.

LJN did it in their series of only 3 figures back in 1984, (I remember, I was there!), so I am almost positive that Hasbro will include him in wave 4.

Id say its Willie were not getting in the first wave
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Old 03-11-2008, 02:56 PM   #90
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Yea, anyone who thinks Mola won't be made in the TOD wave really does not understand how this line is working.
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Old 03-12-2008, 07:20 PM   #91
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As promised, another round of Hasbro answers....

http://www.theprivateuniverse.co.uk/...articleid=2734

Q1. We've now had time to digest the Indy toy line previewed in NYC, and...wow ! With two Indiana's in both the Raiders and Crystal Skull waves, can we expect additional variant Indy's in the Temple of Doom and Last Crusade waves ? Perhaps "torn shirt" Indy and "necktie" Indy ? Also, Raiders Indy has a touch of the Darth Malak "scary eyes" - will this be fixed prior to release ?

A1. Thanks for the comments - glad you are looking forward to the IJ line. Yes, we do plan additional Indy figures for Temple of Doom and The Last Crusade as well. As for what those will be, we will plan on releasing the next wave information around Comic Con in July, if not before. As for eyes, there is another similar question about eyes on Star Wars figures from another fan site this week, and the answer is the same: eye deco is one of the toughest aspects of any figure in 3-3/4" scale to get consistent, since it all involves human touches (whether applied by hand, with spray masks, or with tampos). Slight variations is an expected part of the process. As time goes on and we work through the production of any figures with our factories, we look to dial in tighter to reduce variation.

Q2. The two small "Indy Trap" dioramas from the Deluxe line have a lot of potential. Will these continue, showing traps from the other movies ? Also, these type of "environments" are really lacking in the Star Wars line...is there any opportunity there ?

A2. These two are it for the year in the Deluxe assortment, but it will continue into next year with some interesting new ideas along the same lines (though probably not as *big* as these have been). While we feel the environmental piece is an important one for IJ, since the action is so specific to certain scenes, the idea doesn't necessarily translate to Star Wars as readily and we have been spending our energies elsewhere, broadening the figure and vehicle lines. That doesn't mean there won't be a few surprises here and there, but there aren't any "Deluxe" lines on the drawing board for Star Wars.

The next cut-off for submission is this Friday, so lets hear what you've got...

Oh - and thegogglesdonot - I apologise for being a little punchy the other day.

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Old 03-12-2008, 07:32 PM   #92
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Thanks for the update! I hope they release some Wave 3 and 4 info before July at Comic Con !
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:03 PM   #93
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Thank you, Inky_Skin!

Interesting that they chose not to include the answer pertaining to the characters who are composing the TOD wave. Grrrrrrr...
Please include that question AGAIN with the next round.
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Old 03-13-2008, 04:11 AM   #94
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"we will plan on releasing the next wave information around Comic Con in July, if not before."

This is their plan, and I think they're sticking to it. Figures that they want to focus on the Raiders/KotCS waves to reintroduce the character to the toy shelves and promote the new movie. Got to keep some suprises up their sleeves I guess...besides - I'm all for a slow tease
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We are getting quite a bit in a short amount of time, so it won't hurt to wait. Surprises and rumor speculation do make collecting fun. Also, I have to realize that this is IJ and not the Star Wars line. There are only so many action figures Hasbro can produce from these movies.

Just remembering that Hasbro stated that they revealed the characters in that TOD wave at Toy Fair.

Hasbro likes to tease...
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Old 03-13-2008, 10:41 AM   #96
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I don't see Hasbro announcing he line-up in a Q/A session. I don't think they will drop the ball though.

Did any of you notice that online stores and even Toyfare are making changes to show that the hasbro line could start appearing as early as april. They know that some items will be released early.

Take yesterday for example. I saw CASES of the new Speed Racer toys on the floor at Wal-mart.. these cases were CLERLY marked ( DO NOT STOCK UNTIL 3/30/08). However, Had I wanted them, I could have gotten the whole set. I checked and they are already in the computer.

Indy will be the same way. The Toy manager said that Hasbro has already cleared a section of the stock room to hold the Indy toys. The manager was told last week that he should be expecting items to start arriving anytime from the last week of this month all the way through april.
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I don't see Hasbro announcing he line-up in a Q/A session. I don't think they will drop the ball though.

Did any of you notice that online stores and even Toyfare are making changes to show that the hasbro line could start appearing as early as april. They know that some items will be released early.

Take yesterday for example. I saw CASES of the new Speed Racer toys on the floor at Wal-mart.. these cases were CLERLY marked ( DO NOT STOCK UNTIL 3/30/08). However, Had I wanted them, I could have gotten the whole set. I checked and they are already in the computer.

Indy will be the same way. The Toy manager said that Hasbro has already cleared a section of the stock room to hold the Indy toys. The manager was told last week that he should be expecting items to start arriving anytime from the last week of this month all the way through april.

This is great info. I would like to talk to the manager at the Toys R Us or Wal-Mart in my area without being a pain in the @$$. What's the best way to go about doing this? Most of the time when you ask about something they just say "we don't have it yet" but I want to know when this stuff is coming in.
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Old 03-13-2008, 11:07 AM   #98
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So - no-one is excited about confirmation of more Deluxe Line items next year ? German Motorcycle and sidecar perhaps ? Classroom environment for Professor Jones (desk, blackboard etc) ? Rope bridge ? Catacombs Indy / Elsa with Grail Knight coffin and rats ?

With regard to early release of Indy items, I've noticed that pre-orders on sites like Play.com have actually been withdrawn. Figures once listed have now disappeared. This suggests to me that the release date won't be coming forward (no matter how desperate I am). I'm not 100% certain of the rationale - it's not like we haven't already seen the toys in detail. I can only imagine they want to use them to generate a ground-swell of interest in the franchise as close to the release of KotCS as possible.

Incidentally - has anyone considered the pegwarmers / scalper favorites of the first two waves yet ? Personally I think it'll be Monkey Man / Indiana Jones (leather jacket) for the Raiders Wave, and Jacketless Mutt / Indiana Jones (removable hat) for KotCS.

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Old 03-13-2008, 11:18 AM   #99
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Incidentally - has anyone considered the pegwarmers / scalper favorites of the first two waves yet ?


If history does repeat itself,I'm betting that the Cairo Swordsman warms the shelves.Just look at the Kenner and Disney figure.Hell,The Disney Swordsman fig can STILL be found on some shelves!
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This is great info. I would like to talk to the manager at the Toys R Us or Wal-Mart in my area without being a pain in the @$$. What's the best way to go about doing this? Most of the time when you ask about something they just say "we don't have it yet" but I want to know when this stuff is coming in.

Usually the red clad folks at Target badger the "guests" by asking if they can help them find something. That is your opportunity. I shop there regularly, so I make sure I approach the toy department with a cart full of merchandise.

As luck may have it, I am friends with the toy manager at the Target where I live. It may be time for a phone call!

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