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Old 02-17-2008, 12:02 AM   #76
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Is it me…or is anyone else seeing a lot of inconsistency here? I’m seeing three different versions of the “same” products. The first pictures to appear of the Crystal Skull figures were completely hideous. The second ones were completely different sculpts. Harrison actually mildly resembled Harrison. And now there is even another set of pictures…and they look different AGAIN!


What you are seeing is the different stages of prototypes...NOTHING more.. They get better as they go along. The final product will be wonderful!
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Old 02-17-2008, 12:05 AM   #77
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I fail to see your point. Wax made sculpts and poor paint applications have NOTHING to do with the sculpt itself. My issues are with the sculpt molds. They're mostly hideous. Especially with Harrison himself. That looks NOTHING like Indiana Jones. So please, you have no reason to be so condescending to the naysayers. Your point is moot.


Ohhh MAX...you really have a loooong way to go if you want to try to make some of us verterans think that Hasbro would drop the ball on these toys.....If you really don't know how the process work, simply WAIT until you see th final product IN YOUR HAND!! NOT in photos!! It does not cost you anything to look atthe figure in the stores to see if you like it!!
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Old 02-17-2008, 12:16 AM   #78
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Ohhh MAX...you really have a loooong way to go if you want to try to make some of us verterans think that Hasbro would drop the ball on these toys.....If you really don't know how the process work, simply WAIT until you see th final product IN YOUR HAND!! NOT in photos!! It does not cost you anything to look atthe figure in the stores to see if you like it!!

I'm a toy collector. I know how the process works. I've been collecting toys since near infancy. I probably buy more toy lines then you even know exist - though I‘m not entirely sure that’s something to brag about. Hah! Prototypes are usually arguably BETTER then the final product. For example, do you really want me to bust out the picture of the prototype Hasbro Marvel Legends in comparison to what was put on shelves to purchase? I’m more then willing to do it to prove my point. Fact is, the majority of those figures were a significant downgrade in paint and plastic. Hasbro’s debatably the most criticized of all toy companies. Don’t even get me started on how many mistakes they’ve made.

You’re a veteran of this board. I’m a veteran to toy collecting. When the subject matter is about toys...I'd say it's pretty safe to say I win.

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Old 02-17-2008, 12:34 AM   #79
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I'm a toy collector. I know how the process works. I've been collecting toys since infancy. I probably buy more toy lines then you even know exist - though I‘m not entirely sure that’s something to brag about. Hah! Prototypes are usually arguably BETTER then the final product. For example, do you really want me to bust out the picture of the prototype Hasbro Marvel Legends in comparison to what was put on shelves to purchase? I’m more then willing to do it to prove my point. Fact is, the majority of those figures were a significant downgrade in paint and plastic. Hasbro’s debatably the most criticized of all toy companies. Don’t even get me started on how many mistakes they’ve made.

You’re a veteran of this board. I’m a veteran to toy collecting. That’s all that matters here.


Ohhh How ignorant you are.. I guess, My Carded figures from MEGO Pocket Heroes and 8" figures to Evel Knievel, To Fisher Price Adventure people, to my MASSIVE SUPERHERO ( vintage..Think 1966 Ideal superhero playsets and current think newest MARVEL LEGENDS YELLOW DAREDEVIL ) then my COMPLETE ( AS IN EVERYTHING VINTAGE AND CURRENT ) INDIANA JONES AND STAR WARS Collection makes me a rookie??? Hmmm I wonder why I had to get a 1.1 Million dollar insurrance policy on my toy collection? I have been collecting toys since the old MARX playsets were still being released.

The old Marvel Legends prototypes were from TOYBIZ..HASBRO uses a DIFFERENT Wax for sculpting!! Not Company wide, JUST forthe 3 3/4" SW and INDY line! It's the SAME TEAM!!

you are Sooo sadly wrong to compare a 6" sculpt with a 3 3/4" sculpt.

You really DO not want to argue the toy game with me!! I have toys worth as much as some people's cars. It is WHAT I do to invest! I'm NOT ( I REPEAT, NOT ) bragging.. I just want you to STOP thinking that you are correct in all of your toy postings.. There are some really BRILLIANT toy collectors here who actually work in the hobby. In the larger scales, you lose detail...the smaller scales are alredy limited to the detail that can be added. OHHH, I forgot to mention that I actually OWN Prototypes from ML (toy Biz and HASBRO) and SW, Gi JOE, TRANSFORMERS, MARX 1st shots...On and on....I'm glad you collect, It's just that I invest!
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Ohhh How ignorant you are.. I guess, My Carded figures from MEGO Pocket Heroes and 8" figures to Evel Knievel, To Fisher Price Adventure people, to my MASSIVE SUPERHERO ( vintage..Think 1966 Ideal superhero playsets and current think newest MARVEL LEGENDS YELLOW DAREDEVIL ) then my COMPLETE ( AS IN EVERYTHING VINTAGE AND CURRENT ) INDIANA JONES AND STAR WARS Collection makes me a rookie??? Hmmm I wonder why I had to get a 1.1 Million dollar insurrance policy on my toy collection? I have been collecting toys since the old MARX playsets were still being released.

The old Marvel Legends prototypes were from TOYBIZ..HASBRO uses a DIFFERENT Wax for sculpting!! Not Company wide, JUST forthe 3 3/4" SW and INDY line! It's the SAME TEAM!!

you are Sooo sadly wrong to compare a 6" sculpt with a 3 3/4" sculpt.

You really DO not want to argue the toy game with me!! I have toys worth as much as some people's cars. It is WHAT I do to invest! I'm NOT bragging.. I just want you to STOP thinking that you are correct in all of your toy postings.. There are some really BRILLIANT toy collectors here who actually work in the hobby. In the larger scales, you lose detail...the smaller scales are alredy limited to the detail that can be added.


It's easy to make claims over the internet. My point is that you’re making assumptions that these will be amazing when on the shelves. You don’t know that. Plus, isn’t that subjective? It’s all in the eye of the beholder. I think the Sideshow Indiana Jones doll doesn’t look a thing like Harrison Ford - literally everyone else present loved it. More power to them. Myself, I’ll pass big-time! It’s not my cup of tea. What’s the problem? There shouldn’t be one! And when was I comparing the smaller scale figures to 6'' figures? I'm sorry, I was under the assumption you could read. The truth is that prototypes are NOT always of lesser quality then the final product. This is what I wrote - not comparing two other toy lines. I apologize if that was beyond your ability to comprehend. Though, I must admit, I am awed by your vital knowledge of plastics utilized in action figures. There is no logical way that you could say these will or won’t come out superior to these photo examples of what’s to come. I can down and outright prove your statements are false - even with another Hasbro toy line too! And you condemning anyone that doesn’t have your judgment clearly displays your apparent lack of maturity. Stop being so argumentatively opinionated and let people have their say. There is nothing foolish about another’s alternate view - so why not stop the belittling comments and act like a civil grown up? Is that too much to ask?

And arguing with you…well…you make it pretty easy. Stop flattering yourself.

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Old 02-17-2008, 01:16 AM   #81
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Ohhh How ignorant you are.. I guess, My Carded figures from MEGO Pocket Heroes and 8" figures to Evel Knievel, To Fisher Price Adventure people, to my MASSIVE SUPERHERO ( vintage..Think 1966 Ideal superhero playsets and current think newest MARVEL LEGENDS YELLOW DAREDEVIL ) then my COMPLETE ( AS IN EVERYTHING VINTAGE AND CURRENT ) INDIANA JONES AND STAR WARS Collection makes me a rookie??? Hmmm I wonder why I had to get a 1.1 Million dollar insurrance policy on my toy collection? I have been collecting toys since the old MARX playsets were still being released.

The old Marvel Legends prototypes were from TOYBIZ..HASBRO uses a DIFFERENT Wax for sculpting!! Not Company wide, JUST forthe 3 3/4" SW and INDY line! It's the SAME TEAM!!

you are Sooo sadly wrong to compare a 6" sculpt with a 3 3/4" sculpt.

You really DO not want to argue the toy game with me!! I have toys worth as much as some people's cars. It is WHAT I do to invest! I'm NOT ( I REPEAT, NOT ) bragging.. I just want you to STOP thinking that you are correct in all of your toy postings.. There are some really BRILLIANT toy collectors here who actually work in the hobby. In the larger scales, you lose detail...the smaller scales are alredy limited to the detail that can be added. OHHH, I forgot to mention that I actually OWN Prototypes from ML (toy Biz and HASBRO) and SW, Gi JOE, TRANSFORMERS, MARX 1st shots...On and on....I'm glad you collect, It's just that I invest!

Stop acting all butt hurt because someone had the nads to call you out on your offensive, asinine and uncalled for behavior. When I see someone not only using incorrect information but utilizing it to insult others…I’m going to call them out. Some people just don’t know when they’ve been beaten. Learn to stay down. You’re just making more of an ass out of yourself by continuing. Want some cheese with your whine? Not everyone will agree with you! Get over it - and yourself. 424 posts make you a veteran?!? Hardly! I’m an outright noob and I’m aware of this. You act as if I’m to bow down to your collection. Newsflash: They’re toys! If they’re that impressive to you…I suggest you prioritize better. I’ve even blatantly seen you babyishly clash with fellow members before…and I’ve not been here even a week. That gives great insight into your character. Be thankful I’ve given you any respect at all - it’s more then you deserve. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ve got more important things to do then continue to argue with an obsessive compulsive collector that conforms to the every waking desire of corporate commercialism. Honestly, what are you…a Hasblow rep? So I’m sorry to disappoint - but I‘m ending this. This thread doesn’t revolve around me and you alone - and that’s something I respect.

But by the way, your replies lack any and all wit and intellect. Here’s two cents - buy yourself some originality. You’re generally the type of dimwitted and irrational person that makes me get down on my knees and pray for a nuclear holocaust.
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Old 02-17-2008, 01:25 AM   #82
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Hm! This is very cool. It gives some possible insight on what could go down inside the Temple itself. I wonder what the whole Skeleton/Crystal Skull connection will be. I have some ideas, mostly of which I hope are untrue, but the set itself is still very cool. I’ll probably pick it up.
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Old 02-17-2008, 02:32 AM   #83
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I gonna buy them just becuz there Indy figs. I don't care if they aren't an exact duplicate of Harrison's slightly bigger left eye and one attached earlobe.

I have been seeing stuff that has been making me scream at the top of my lungs for joy. The Chase truck from Raider's, the troop car, the frickin' awesome German motorcycle with sidecar just as I hypothesized and a GIANT THUGEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! TOD is getting figs, LC is getting figs, KOTCS is getting figs, everybody wins. INDY IV is going to be HUGE. Little girls, and big, will go see it because of Shia. Then they'll buy the 12" Shia doll and all the Shia posters that are sure to come out. Little boys, those physically and mentally, will see the movie because It's going to be awesome. Then their parents will buy the toys; and there are toys for every age. The whip, Mr. Tater Head, for the youngins; action figs, games for the older kids; deluxe items and send away items for the collectors. It doesn't stop there. After the atomic bomb, that Indy IV will be, kids and probably several adults will dress up like him for Halloween. There will probably be Indy Christmas ornaments and holiday cards. Then rolling into 2009, a full year from now, I hope to see Indy Valentine's Day cards so MaxPhactor can send his love to tnswman. This; this is history.
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Old 02-17-2008, 02:39 AM   #84
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"This bickering is pointless"

Anyway...I, for one, am blown away by everything so far...well, except for the FX whip (did I already mention that?).

As far as 3 3/4" stuff, I still like the Jacket Indy, but the working holster is a little large. It's cool that he comes with an interchangable hand! I think the KOTCS Indys both look great, as do the rest of that wave. The deluxe sets are pretty neat, though I am curious as to why Indy with the Ark has the head scarf on? The German Motorcycle is awesome! The vehicles all look great too!

The 12" figures don't really look all that bad, for Hasbro...better than most of their Star Wars line and at least this time they didn't use the old Hall of Fame Joe bodies with the hands that are bigger than their heads! Really digging that Cairo Swordsman! Think I prefer the Indy with whipping action to the talking Indy though. The 12" scale Ark is pretty sweet as well.

The Titaniums were a big surprise! I wasn't too excited about them, but what was shown looks pretty cool. Love how they have Indy dragging behind the Desert Convoy Truck and the paint on it is amazing!
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Old 02-17-2008, 03:09 AM   #85
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Is it me…or is anyone else seeing a lot of inconsistency here? I’m seeing three different versions of the “same” products. The first pictures to appear of the Crystal Skull figures were completely hideous. The second ones were completely different sculpts. Harrison actually mildly resembled Harrison. And now there is even another set of pictures…and they look different AGAIN!

There appear to be three of the Indy w/Idol figure on display at Toyfair, which could account for the differing pics of him at least:

And what is up with those crates? It looks as if each figure is packaged with one and they are assorted shapes and sizes...I guess each "relic" comes packed inside one. Pretty cool bonus! I wonder if they are plastic or just cardboard? We'll all have an Ark warehouse diorama in no time

***EDIT*** Upon further review, it appears that the crates are cardboard...still cool though.

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Old 02-17-2008, 03:14 AM   #86
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No one else finds it odd that the rocket launcher Indy doesn't seem to have a hat?
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Old 02-17-2008, 03:26 AM   #87
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No one else finds it odd that the rocket launcher Indy doesn't seem to have a hat?


Indy without a hat on, thats....well thats just crazy!
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Old 02-17-2008, 03:28 AM   #88
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I did find that odd too, but it is common for them not to get all of the accessories correct at Toyfair when setting up the figures. It has happened plenty of times in the past, sending countless Star Wars geeks into a tizzy I'd put money on him having a removable hat like the other KOTCS Indy, and they just didn't put it with him when they set up.
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This Cemetry Warrior has the mask of Agamemnon as a bonus item



Very weird. This mask was found by Heinrich Schliemann at the remains of Troy.
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Old 02-17-2008, 04:22 AM   #90
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I didn't have time to read every post in this thread, so someone stop me if this has already been discussed, but looks like the delux indy's( Indy with idol on pedestal and indy with pit) connect to make part of opening scene from raiders. will there perhaps be more of these delux figures? does this mean we're never getting a "raiders opening" playset?
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This toyline is going to be amazing!!

I'm getting antsy!
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Is it wrong I think the Legos Spalko looks more like the real thing than the action figure does?



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And there is NO Alien in this Toyline!!!
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Great!!

Just when I said I'd be passing over the Hasbro line, they release pics of the Titanium collection, the 3 3/4" vehicles, a pretty impressive 12" Arab swordsman, and a giant Thuggee guard figure indicating a top notch TOD line!
Thanks a lot Hasbro! Way to take my money!
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OK, I won't claim these look like crap or not yet, because as said they're prototypes. But don't for a minute try to tell us Hasbro hasn't let us down with sculpts/paint apps! I am hoping these are up to par with the Vintage Original Trilogy SW figs. I prefer super articulation and attention to face sculpts versus silly action figures and the wrong accessories (who here doesn't?). Some of these pics look good, some look bad. I'll reserve my judgement on them when I buy some.

ToD is getting made. I'm a happy collector! The German on the bike looks amazing, and I'm excited for all of those KotCS guys. They look pretty good. Articulation seems to be big on all of these things! I'll be very selective on the deluxe, but so far, it looks like I'm gonna end up getting most of the regular ones depending on their quality.
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Now THIS is a costume!



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O_O ... oh my god!

Now THAT´s a kind of a freak
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OK, I won't claim these look like crap or not yet, because as said they're prototypes. But don't for a minute try to tell us Hasbro hasn't let us down with sculpts/paint apps! I am hoping these are up to par with the Vintage Original Trilogy SW figs. I prefer super articulation and attention to face sculpts versus silly action figures and the wrong accessories (who here doesn't?). Some of these pics look good, some look bad. I'll reserve my judgement on them when I buy some.

ToD is getting made. I'm a happy collector! The German on the bike looks amazing, and I'm excited for all of those KotCS guys. They look pretty good. Articulation seems to be big on all of these things! I'll be very selective on the deluxe, but so far, it looks like I'm gonna end up getting most of the regular ones depending on their quality.


good for you!! that's the way you should decide!!
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It's easy to make claims over the internet. My point is that you’re making assumptions that these will be amazing when on the shelves. You don’t know that. Plus, isn’t that subjective? It’s all in the eye of the beholder. I think the Sideshow Indiana Jones doll doesn’t look a thing like Harrison Ford - literally everyone else present loved it. More power to them. Myself, I’ll pass big-time! It’s not my cup of tea. What’s the problem? There shouldn’t be one! And when was I comparing the smaller scale figures to 6'' figures? I'm sorry, I was under the assumption you could read. The truth is that prototypes are NOT always of lesser quality then the final product. This is what I wrote - not comparing two other toy lines. I apologize if that was beyond your ability to comprehend. Though, I must admit, I am awed by your vital knowledge of plastics utilized in action figures. There is no logical way that you could say these will or won’t come out superior to these photo examples of what’s to come. I can down and outright prove your statements are false - even with another Hasbro toy line too! And you condemning anyone that doesn’t have your judgment clearly displays your apparent lack of maturity. Stop being so argumentatively opinionated and let people have their say. There is nothing foolish about another’s alternate view - so why not stop the belittling comments and act like a civil grown up? Is that too much to ask?

And arguing with you…well…you make it pretty easy. Stop flattering yourself.


And who are you again? Hmmm, Not the person that aleady has some indy Hasbro toys in-hand...Nope...I think that would be ME!

anyway thanls for introducing yourself to us.. Now we know who to avoid. Lot's of new people coming in and making like they are the end-all-be-all indy fans and collectors.

so, At least we know
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Old 02-17-2008, 12:30 PM   #100
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This toyline is going to be amazing!!

I'm getting antsy!


Metal...you know I thought I was going to be able to hold down the excitement since I already have some of these toys in-hand.. HOWEVER, I can't

to be honest, It was the Indy 4 figures that did it..AND that BEAUTIFUL Truck and Box art!!
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