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Old 12-05-2012, 06:27 PM   #126
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Dig Tarzan and the Valley of Gold (1966)

In the "similarities" category is: Tarzan and the Valley of Gold (1966)

The villains are a small, mechanized army led by a Belloq-type character whose lead henchman is a Dovchenko-like, big guy with a shaved head. They invade an Aztec civilization in Mexico searching for hidden GOLD. (There is also a camp scene at night similar to, "Crystal Skull".)




The villain & his army enter caves in pursuit of the gold.



The Aztec people are surpressed by modern, military superiority. (Similar to, "Crystal Skull", where the Ughas were easily overcome by the Russians.)



Thanks to the hero (Tarzan), the bad guys cannot achieve their goal without a fight (and an exploding military vehicle)!



Lo and behold, a block in a wall (adorned with a golden skull, no less) is pulled out and releases a SAND trap. (Extremely similar to, "Crystal Skull"!)




There is also a scene with Tarzan and a descending, trap door (à la "Raiders" and "Temple of Doom").
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:05 AM   #127
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Marion, Mutt, Indy

and Elsa!

or could she be Willie?

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Old 12-06-2012, 01:37 AM   #128
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In the "similarities" category is: Tarzan and the Valley of Gold (1966)

I remember this one from those Saturday morning Tarzans, but not clearly enough to have made those connections.

These don't appear to available on DVD.
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:29 AM   #129
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Lo and behold, a block in a wall (adorned with a golden skull, no less) is pulled out and releases a SAND trap. (Extremely similar to, "Crystal Skull"!)

Actually, reading your post, it's so obvious to me that Tarzan and the Valley of Gold was a huge influence on Stephen Sommers' The Jungle Book (the 1993, Disney live-action film), which is bizarrely way more of a piece with Tarzan and Indiana Jones than it is in any way kin to Kipling's writings. The sand trap scene your picture depicts is very similar to one in the Disney movie where a guy gets buried alive in salt in a mausoleum, which in my mind still holds the trophy for most bafflingly inappropriate scene in a kids movie ever.
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:30 PM   #130
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I remember this one from those Saturday morning Tarzans, but not clearly enough to have made those connections.

These don't appear to available on DVD.
I'll reply to that in the Tarzan thread.
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Actually, reading your post, it's so obvious to me that Tarzan and the Valley of Gold was a huge influence on Stephen Sommers' The Jungle Book (the 1993, Disney live-action film), which is bizarrely way more of a piece with Tarzan and Indiana Jones than it is in any way kin to Kipling's writings. The sand trap scene your picture depicts is very similar to one in the Disney movie where a guy gets buried alive in salt in a mausoleum, which in my mind still holds the trophy for most bafflingly inappropriate scene in a kids movie ever.
I LOVE the '93 "Jungle Book"! You've inspired me to watch it again, Udvarnoky. As for, "Valley of Gold", being an influence on it: That's possible but it's probably not the only previous film to feature a similar sand trap (but I get what you're saying with the Tarzan/Indy-esque quality of the movie).
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:32 PM   #131
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Lightbulb Split Second (1953)

"The Atomic Kid" (1954) has been discussed in this thread a few times but a GREAT companion film was released the year before it...

"Split Second" (1953)

Escaped convicts take a few people hostage and drive into a small, deserted, ghost town in Nevada called, 'Lost Hope City', using it as an overnight hideout. The town is part of an atomic bomb testing site and only a mile away from ground-zero so their plan is to leave with enough time before detonation the next morning. Much to everyone's horror the next day, the radio announces that the test schedule has been moved forward...one hour earlier! As the warning sirens scream, the panic-stricken group scrambles about in an attempt to survive. Of course, the bad guys take off in the car leaving the others to their doom. Driving like the devil, the vehicle & its villainous occupants are eventually incinerated by the explosion while the rest of the group survive (I won't say how). After the blast, the former hostages watch as the giant, mushroom cloud rises in the distance.

Seem familiar? Splice together, "Split Second" + "The Atomic Kid", and you ALMOST have the entire Doom Town scene! (One of these days, I'm gonna do it.)





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Old 12-10-2012, 11:13 PM   #132
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"The Atomic Kid" (1954) has been discussed in this thread a few times but a GREAT companion film was released the year before it...

"Split Second" (1953)

Yet another film that has completely passed under my radar. Good catch!

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Old 04-11-2013, 05:48 AM   #133
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Lightbulb Split Second (1953) - Screengrabs - 1 of 5

Sets of images from "Split Second" that parallel "Crystal Skull"!

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Nevada Testing Ground & "Lost Hope City":



Mad scramble for the car! Bad guys get away. Good guys are left stranded!



To be continued...
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:54 AM   #134
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Lightbulb Split Second (1953) - Screengrabs - 2 of 5

Uh-oh! It's the BOMB!



Better turn this car around!



To be continued...
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:48 AM   #135
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In The Wild One, in the beginning, when describing motorcycle gangs, a sheriff says:

"(They're) lookin' for somebody to push 'em around so they can get sore and show how tough they are..."

In KOTCS, in the diner scene, Indy says to Mutt:

"You don't have to get all sore all the time just to prove how tough you are."
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:09 PM   #136
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Lightbulb Split Second (1953) - Screengrabs - 3 of 5

The ZERO HOUR!

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Lightbulb Split Second (1953) - Screengrabs - 4 of 5

KA-BOOM!!!



Lost Hope City meets its destiny.

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Old 04-24-2013, 07:29 PM   #138
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Lightbulb Split Second (1953) - Screengrabs - 5 of 5

Bye-bye bad guys...




How do the 'good guys' survive? Well, you'll just have to watch the film. Look out for it on Turner Classic Movies!
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:05 PM   #139
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Lightbulb Panic in Year Zero! (1962)

Compare "Crystal Skull" with:
Man in fedora gazing at mushroom cloud from "Panic in Year Zero!" (1962).

Though, what's gettin' blowed up ain't a fake town in Nevada...it's LOS ANGELES!



(Image flipped for a better match.)
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:01 PM   #140
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Compare "Crystal Skull" with:
Man in fedora gazing at mushroom cloud from "Panic in Year Zero!" (1962).

Though, what's gettin' blowed up ain't a fake town in Nevada...it's LOS ANGELES!



(Image flipped for a better match.)
Impressive find.
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:24 AM   #141
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Repo Man plays like a strange sequel to KotCS: the MacGuffin is a 1964 Chevy Malibu from Roswell which flies away in the end.

This might be where Lucas gets his ideas, from some guy down by the river...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4QKiYar9pI

I love this concept, Moe! Repo Man is in my top ten! Don't know how I ended up missing that post of yours.
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Old 05-08-2013, 02:14 PM   #142
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Sets of images from "Split Second" that parallel "Crystal Skull"!
Yep, very familiar...
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Old 05-27-2013, 10:41 AM   #143
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Impressive find.
Gonzo, being an L.A. resident, you should check this one out.
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Repo Man plays like a strange sequel to KotCS: the MacGuffin is a 1964 Chevy Malibu from Roswell which flies away in the end.

This might be where Lucas gets his ideas, from some guy down by the river...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4QKiYar9pI
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I love this concept, Moe! Repo Man is in my top ten! Don't know how I ended up missing that post of yours.
The best thing about "Repo Man" is the music and I used to listen to the soundtrack quite often (Circle Jerks, Black Flag, Suicidal Tendencies, Iggy Pop). For a much better prequel to "Repo Man", check out "Kiss Me Deadly" (1955) based on the Mickey Spillane novel. Trust me. That film and "Split Second" are the best examples of 'atomic noir'.
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Yep, very familiar...
Thanks for the link to that photo, Moe, because I've never seen it before! Last month I bought a 3 DVD documentary set called, "America's Atomic Bomb Tests" and the sign of Camp Mercury in "Split Second" is actually footage filmed by the U.S. government (which was used in more than one Hollywood film) so that UNUSED Doom Town sign is actually an imitation of the real world.
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Old 05-28-2013, 12:29 PM   #144
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I thought there was supposed to be a picture in Indy 4, of an autographed picture of Willie Scott, sitting(the picture)on a coffee table or something.

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Old 07-26-2013, 02:28 PM   #145
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Green Fire (1954)

Four years after "King Solomon's Mines", the dashing Stewart Granger wears a fedora again for "Green Fire" but instead of searching for diamonds in Africa, this time he is after emeralds in South America! It's a decent flick with action, romance, and a tense climax. Granger's character carries a revolver at all times and kills people with it.

Some similarities with "Crystal Skull":

- Riverboat
- Sleeping amongst cargo with hat over face



- Pulling a gun on a South American aggressor
- Cave entrance high in the hills (he has a shovel, too, as Indy does in "Skull")



- Remnants of Spanish conquistadors
- Search by flashlight
- Finding a prize gem (no magnetic properties, though!)

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Just watched "Green Fire", thanks Stoo!

A few stand out lines that reminded me of Raiders...

"You're just like me..."

"Go ahead! Blow it up!"
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:53 PM   #147
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Nice quotes (which passed by me)! There are even more similarities with the other Indy films but I restricted my mentions to only "Crystal Skull".

Tash, my friend, it's very pleasing to know that you hunted this movie down, watched it & enjoyed it! Being one of the interested few, you get 10 points and a gold star!

(Now, I could tie my 1950s film recommendations into a current thread about an action/adventure movie being SLOW to audiences 30 years after its release...but I won't do that right now.)
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Lightbulb Similarity - The Skull (1965)

The Skull (1965) is not a Hammer film but it's the same type.

Peter Cushing: Then why did you?
Christopher Lee: Because the skull wanted me to.





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