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Old 05-01-2017, 12:22 AM   #26
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...the attraction's action-adventure roots a la '51's The African Queen!

An important tidbit of for the money men courtesy of The Hollywood Reporter's original review of The African Queen.

A certain other series can learn some important lessons too.

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Filmed in Africa by S.P. Eagle, the production is a stunning pictorial display, wonderfully accurate in its atmospheric values and eye-arresting scenery. The backgrounds add considerably to the enormous credibility found in this narrative about the daring odyssey made through the jungle by a missionary's straight laced sister and a dissolute adventurer.

A sense of place is important.

Now that he's officially on board, The Rock is of course doing early promotion work hyping his participation. Normally that would be fine, but the idea that WDI would be seeking The Rock's advice in "improving" the ride. Said improvements would take place at all versions of the ride, and go into effect before the movie opened.

A temporary overlay? Tolerable. But lifelong changes featuring The Rock's likeness? Kill it with fire.

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A couple of additional preferences:

1.) Don't call it The Jungle Cruise Movie.
2.) Don't have The Rock be the Skip.
3.) Do make it a traditional action-adventure movie.
4.) Do hire Darius Khondji to lens the picture.
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Old 05-01-2017, 02:31 AM   #27
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I'm glad they're making more theme park ride-inspired movies, and definitely feel The Jungle Cruise could work: I was looking forward to it when Tom Hanks and Tim Allen were scheduled to be in it.

Sadly, I don't particularly like The Rock, and I'm disappointed he's part of the project.
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Kill it with fire? Take off and nuke it from orbit. Its the only way to be sure.
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First off...

Apparently, this site reached to Disney about changes to the ride, and say:

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Well, according to Disney, it turns out that is not case. Although Disney did confirm that The Rock did meet with Disney Imagineers recently, Disney said there are no plans to revamp the ride at this time. Good news for fans of the original attraction.

Secondly, a director for the film has reportedly been set:

Jaume Collet-Serra, director of Liam Neeson thrillers Non-Stop and Unknown.

It's said that he turned down the directing job for Suicide Squad 2 for this, because...

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He decided that the opportunity to originate a new Indiana Jones-like action-adventure franchise in lockstep with one of the most globally bankable film stars ó like Gore Verbinski did with Johnny Depp in The Pirates of the Caribbean ó was a better opportunity than continuing a storyline originated by another director. Production will begin late next spring.

(Sorry for the F-word, Stoo. Their choice of phrase, not mine.)
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First off...

Apparently, this site reached to Disney about changes to the ride, and say:



Secondly, a director for the film has reportedly been set:

Jaume Collet-Serra, director of Liam Neeson thrillers Non-Stop and Unknown.

It's said that he turned down the directing job for Suicide Squad 2 for this, because...



(Sorry for the F-word, Stoo. Their choice of phrase, not mine.)

Very glad that there will not be any changes to the ride. I honestly would not feel comfortable with them just changing things for that.
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Old 08-01-2017, 04:31 AM   #31
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Very glad that there will not be any changes to the ride. I honestly would not feel comfortable with them just changing things for that.

It took... three(?) movies before Jack was added to Pirates of the Caribbean.

Because they have no publicly available plans to put The Rock into the Jungle, it doesn't mean that there isn't a proposal on some executive's desk. Given the current direction of the parks, I can almost guarantee that The Rock will somehow be added in; it's one of the things to genuinely dislike this current incarnation of Disney for -- everything that gets added to the North American parks at least has to be a movie tie-in. Original attractions are for the overseas parks, and even those are hard to come by.

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Secondly, a director for the film has reportedly been set:

Jaume Collet-Serra, director of Liam Neeson thrillers Non-Stop and Unknown.

Nothing about this director's filmography stands out as being particularly notable, but The Shallows did look interesting. I'm intrigued. Will a director of mid-tier action flicks be able to helm a big-budget action-adventure picture? At the very least they're going in the direction I want (and believe) it should be going in.

Conceptually speaking The World Famous Jungle Cruise is my favorite ride, but since they killed the narrations department it's been all down hill since. Good Skips who can deliver the canned spiel are few and far between.

re: Indiana Jones

The World Famous Jungle Cruise is permanently themed to 1936, so it's right in with Dr. Jones' wheelhouse. If production continues in the action-adventure vein, then comparisons are bound to happen and hopefully be apt.

Let's remember that Indiana Jones might be shorthand for a certain type of movie today, but it is not the originator.
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Old 09-02-2017, 01:37 AM   #32
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The circle is nearly complete...

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Disney parks are known for their incredible spacial storytelling techniques. They weave together seemingly unrelated details and hidden nuggets within the architecture and decor to tell cohesive stories that the sharp-eyed visitor can see and enjoy. Itís what makes it possible to visit the parks again and again for a lifetime without the novelty wearing off.

One such storyline revolves, not around a famous Disney film property, but around a secret society of wealthy globetrotters and treasure seekers known as the Society of Explorers and Adventurers (The S.E.A.). Itís origins are mysterious even among Disney insiders. Thatís because details revealed about these fez-wearing, secret handshake-shaking millionaires are few and far between. Only in recent years has some of the folklore been added through hidden details and, in a few cases, overt placement in attractions, stores, and dining locations.

Full article: Disneyland Finally Gets a S.E.A. Connection
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Old 09-04-2017, 10:26 PM   #33
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The circle is nearly complete...

Indeed, what's this? Content for the 1%?

So I guess the rabble gets Sponge-Bob rip-off cartoons featuring the Big 5 (Mickey, Minnie, Donald, Daisy and Goofy) set in various international locals, while the 1%-ers get the S.E.A. Club?

Great.

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. . .that’s because details revealed about these fez-wearing, secret handshake-shaking millionaires are few and far between.

If Edward Said were still alive he'd have a field day with all this dead white guy adventurer fetishism. Sorry -- I gotta chalk this up to imagineer masturbatory content creation run amok.
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Old 09-05-2017, 04:28 AM   #34
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Indeed, what's this? Content for the 1%?

So I guess the rabble gets Sponge-Bob rip-off cartoons featuring the Big 5 (Mickey, Minnie, Donald, Daisy and Goofy) set in various international locals, while the 1%-ers get the S.E.A. Club?

Great.

Bruh, you so woke you must be blind if that's the connection you made.



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If Edward Said were still alive he'd have a field day with all this dead white guy adventurer fetishism. Sorry -- I gotta chalk this up to Imagineer masturbatory content creation run amok.

I know White Guilt is a popular thing these days, but you can take that Said trash out of here.
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Old 09-05-2017, 05:26 PM   #35
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Like the modernized Pirates ride, I'm sure this film will be perfectly inoffensive.
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Old 09-05-2017, 09:44 PM   #36
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Bruh, you so woke you must be blind if that's the connection you made.

Pray sir, what, precisely, connection is that?

I made two: (1.) Linking the millionaire S.E.A. club with the 1%, and (2.) Linking (actually contrasting) the S.E.A. club with the Disney Shorts -- recently put out by Disney Television Animation that consciously adopted more of a blue collar, every-man's ethos for Mickey & Co's adventures.


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I know White Guilt is a popular thing these days, but you can take that Said trash out of here.

The irony here is too rich -- compare your cast of fictional S.E.A. explorers (and, for the Hell of it, throw in the lives of the imagineers who offer their likenesses for some of the S.E.A. related artwork) against Said's true life story and you're calling Said's oeuvre trash?

Said is no two-bit Mizzou assistant professor shouting for some muscle. Regardless of your views of his works, he transformed academic analysis (true, relying heavily on Michel Foucault -- which may be why you're calling his work 'trash' but that's a separate argument).

As for 'White Guilt' -- none here of that here at all.

First, the whole S.E.A. concept of a connected back stories for rides, venues and attractions in different Disney Lands and venues goes against the original vision for Disney Land/World of transporting park goers to dramatically different AND SEPARATE worlds that are mere steps apart. For example, having a S.E.A. related back story for both Big Thunder Mountain Railroad and the Jungle Cruise is retarded because it creates a linkage between the two worlds (Adventureland and Frontierland) that shouldn't be there. The S.E.A. linkages makes the world too small a place -- and that's not what Walt Disney's vision was about.

Second and what's worse, the actual linkage is a group of dead, crusty rich guys. How unimaginative is that? Given the way the Imagineers are falling over themselves with homages to African Queen, I think it would be fitting if a founding member of S.E.A. would be King Leopold or one of his bastard sons. That way, Disney diehard fans searching for 'Easter Eggs' could gain an appreciation for real history instead of the now (with this film) twice white-washed story of the Belgian Congo that bizarrely enough has its true roots in Joseph Conrad's masterpiece The Heart of Darkness.

What you call 'White Guilt', I simply call having a marginal interest in acknowledging the true historical record.
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Old 12-01-2017, 09:50 PM   #37
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The Rock has a very interesting assessment of the movie.

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ď[Itís] full on adventure. Think Indiana Jones ó those kinds of adventures. Iím very, very excited about it.Ē.
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http://variety.com/2018/film/news/em...se-1202645108/

Emily Blunt joins the cast.

Michael Green ("Logan") worked on the most recent script polish.

I'm very curious to see what they're going for with this one.
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Old 01-30-2018, 12:45 PM   #39
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http://variety.com/2018/film/news/em...se-1202645108/

Emily Blunt joins the cast.

Michael Green ("Logan") worked on the most recent script polish.

I'm very curious to see what they're going for with this one.


I think Emily Blunt showed us she can pull off action quite well in Edge of Tomorrow...I am looking forward to this movie, think she can really do well.
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Emily Blunt joins the cast.

This is the best piece of casting news to date. No, like, seriously.



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I'm very curious to see what they're going for with this one.

This is one of the most exciting aspects of the project: It's a wide-open concept. They can do almost anything with it so long as it features a tramp steamer and an appropriate riverine system. Action-Adventure? Comedy? Historical fiction?

The only thing that could sink this project would be a literal retelling of the ride on the screen; a two-hour spiel of cornball jokes by The Rock would want me to gouge my eyes out. I remain optimistic that they'll lay into the ride's action-adventure roots since they've opted to make it a period piece.

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My guess would be the Congo region because a "Jungle Cruise" movie just wouldn't seem complete without some African elephants. It would also be great to see some hippos, too. Lots of 'em!


I'm still leaning towards a South American location, but the more I think about it, the more I like an Asian setting. Asia has elephants too! Only males have tusks though, with a twin humped head (compared to the African elephant's single, rounded dome). Asia gives you: mahouts, Indians, the Chinese, the British Raj/Empire, the French, and whatever local peoples and rulers you can think of. The scenery would be amazing.
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I'm still leaning towards a South American location, but the more I think about it, the more I like an Asian setting.

I was doing some unrelated reading -- okay, not entirely unrelated -- that led me to thinking about Animal Kingdom's Expedition Everest. Why? Read on.



Following the astounding success (it's going to top out @ nearly $900-million at the box office) of Sony's Jumanji resurrection, let's assume audiences have a hankering for a quality adventure movie. Disney aims to fill that desire with a flick at least heavily inspired by The World Famous Jungle Cruise. With all the talent involved on both sides of the camera, I have a hard time seeing it being anything other than a success unless, of course, the final product manages to be an absolute turd.

Success at the box office means an immediate sequel in today's climate, but how expansive is the jungle cruise motif? Can a potential sequel trek up the Himalaya and encounter the yeti? Ten major rivers originate on the Tibetan plateau including the Meghna, the Brahmaputra, and the Eternal Ganga. They pass through a variety of ecosystems -- Himalayan terai, the Indo-Gangetic plain, subtropical forests, etc.

A case could be made I would argue, but 'jungle' in it's common usage is synonymous with rain forest. While jangal, the Hindi it's derived from, basically meant wilderness.
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To add fuel to the South America v. Africa speculation, it appears that set construction is already underway in Hawaii.



https://mobile.twitter.com/reelnewsh...24675832180738

Hmm...
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To add fuel to the South America v. Africa speculation, it appears that set construction is already underway in Hawaii.


Hmm...

Has Hawaii ever doubled for Africa? You can do a lot in this Miracles Are Cheap era of movie making, but I can't think of any movies where it has acted as a stand-in. Doesn't mean they don't exist though. If Hawaii was to stand-in for Africa, however, they would be almost completely confined to the upper reaches of the Congo River Basin -- Cameroon, Central African Republic, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Republic of Congo, Equatorial Guinea and Gabon.


Hmm... is right.

Unfortunately the boats in that other tweet aren't helpful at deducing a potential location either, but I'm still leaning towards South America or Asia. Right now I'm thinking Asia is a more likely candidate.

Another wrinkle: Disney could do a completely fictional country a la Anandapur in Disney's Animal Kingdom.
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Has Hawaii ever doubled for Africa? You can do a lot in this Miracles Are Cheap era of movie making, but I can't think of any movies where it has acted as a stand-in.

After a casual search on Wikipedia for movies shot in Hawaii, it looks like it has a few times.

"George of the Jungle," "Tears of the Sun," and possibly parts of "Outbreak" and the 90's remake of "Mighty Joe Young."

I can't vouch for how well it translated, however. Most of those movies are distant memories to me at this point.
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New Details about Jungle Cruise have been revealed via 'That Hashtag show'.


http://thathashtagshow.com/2018/02/e...rnatural-plot/

some character breakdowns which have plot device including the macguffin being searched for...:
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Frank (Francisco)
A witty riverboat captain cursed with immortality who takes Lily Houghton down the river.

Lily Houghton
Spunky scientist in search of the Tree of Life. Her quest is inspired in part by the death of her brother which was caused by an infectious disease.

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Great?@!!

There goes my Indy idea.
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Great?@!!

There goes my Indy idea.

I don't buy it. Preternatural elements? Sure. But my first thought was 'Are they trying to make this into a Pirates-esque outing?' Seems counter intuitive. An immortal skip makes this just about as inconsequential as Jumanji is.

I could certainly see elements of this in the final script, but I can't shake the suspicion that they got their hands on a draft of some sort. If that.

The Tree of Life is a dumb macguffin then, now, and forever.

Shouldn't Frank want to go, like, up river? Y'know, where all the really cool 'ish is hidden? It'd be an awfully short movie if said macguffin was on the coast the whole time.
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Edgar Ramirez joining the cast as a villain "with a conquistador background."

In addition, Jack Whitehall has been cast as the brother to Emily Blunt's character. I don't know if that confirms the casting breakdown or not.

The article also mentions... (drumroll, please) ...an Amazon setting for the film!
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I wonder if this movie is a success if Disney will lock the Rock down to a mega multi-movie deal like Marvel did with Samuel Jackson?
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I wonder if this movie is a success if Disney will lock the Rock down to a mega multi-movie deal like Marvel did with Samuel Jackson?


Only if he looks like a bitch
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