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Lakota_Wilson said:Why is the show considered canon. It seems legit to me. Some people just get to technical.
Eh?
Canon is legitimate.
I don't know what you're getting at, Lakota.
Lakota_Wilson said:Why is the show considered canon. It seems legit to me. Some people just get to technical.
Lakota_Wilson said:Oh! Wow. LOL I thought that canon meant it was fake for some reason. I'm sorry. I'm still trying to understand all of the terminology. I'm not real big on internet stuff. LOL.
Merry Christmas.
Your Friend,
Lakota
Agreed. It would be nice to know how the story began and more about the main villain. The reason this chapter feels like 'vintage Indy' is because it IS! Made only 4 years after "Crusade" and 15 years before "Skull".Raiders112390 said:I wish the Wyoming, 1950 adventure had been fleshed out, for a full TV movie or something. It's not a major artifact but somehow Harrison feels more like Indy here than he does in KOTCS, and it feels more like vintage Indy.
Raiders112390 said:I wish the Wyoming, 1950 adventure had been fleshed out, for a full TV movie or something. It's not a major artifact but somehow Harrison feels more like Indy here than he does in KOTCS, and it feels more like vintage Indy.
dr.jones1986 said:I agree with your point that the artifact Indy goes after does not always have to be paranormal. It is established in Raiders that he is an expert on the occult but that to me was never his most defining trait. I think the most enduring thing about the character is the the Globe trotting adventure aspect. Also the fact that he has a vast amount of knowledge about other cultures. It does seem though that all of his adult adventures involve the supernatural, not just the movies.
So do I but if it was expanded, it woud have probably been only a 1 hour episode. After his success with "Star Wars", Harrison stopped doing TV shows so we were LUCKY to get his 4 minutes in "Mystery of the Blues".Raiders112390 said:I really, really wish it'd have been expanded into a telefilm.
The "Blues" villain is certainly interesting but the Wyoming 1950 segment DOES NOT come closest to the "cheesy serial type adventures"...(Whatever your definition of 'cheese' is supposed to mean). Perhaps your idea of 'cheese' is something different? I can't think of any serial where a cliffhanger is resolved by something as goofy as blowing on a saxophone!Raiders112390 said:The villain is a perfect, snide, schemey little early '50s villain, corny in a way yes, but not cringeworthy--it was just a totally fun yarn, the kind of stuff that fits PERFECTLY into what the whole idea of Indy is. What Indy was based on and inspired by--cheesy serial type adventures. Wyoming, 1950, ironically comes the closest to a real, vintage serial type adventure, like the kind that inspired the creation of Indy in the first place--lovably cheesy, in a good way. Raiders takes the hokey '30s and 40s serial formula and makes it something serious, more legitimate, and so do the sequels to greater and lesser degrees.
Um...No. This is very naive thinking, Raiders112390.Raiders112390 said:Yeah, and it's limited the character, because delays come from having to decide upon the "right" MacGuffin--one that's "epic" enough. But if they didn't take that into consideration and just picked lesser, not so much supernatural, artifacts, we'd have a lot more movies, and the Indy series could've become like Bond, with a new movie every 2-3 years.
The difference is that the person who used the umbrella in "Crusade" was NOT Indy. The saxophone gag was hokey with a capital "H"! It's ridiculous and you will be hard pressed to find an example in the vintage serials of a HERO doing a similar thing!Raiders112390 said:Indy using the saxophone to cause the snow to fall in the ending may seem hokey to some, but it's really using his father's line of thought--"Let my armies be the rocks, the trees, and the birds in the sky." It's no more hokey than Henry, Sr using his umbrella to lure a flock of seagulls into a Nazi plane.
Same here, Raiders112390. It's a special treat and I like the expanded VHS/DVD version even more because, well, it's longer!Raiders112390 said:I kind of consider it "Indy 3.5."
Supposedly, that was the plan but Ford didn't want to sit through the makeup sessions for the old-aged look.Dr. Gonzo said:Impossible but, wouldn't it have been great to have Harrison bookends every episode of that series.?
Stoo said:Same here, Raiders112390. It's a special treat...
Stoo said:Supposedly, that was the plan but Ford didn't want to sit through the makeup sessions for the old-aged look.