As we all know, Nazis ceased to exist in the 50's , that leaves Spielberg and Lucas very few public enemy for Indy to pit against. So, who should he fight ? the communist ? For one, the Russians never thought of US as enemy(no matter how different the ideology was), the Chinese ? like always their enemy was the economy and the welfare of the people, Thugs follower of certain cult? (seen that before). Now, who would be a good villian? (AJ will come to the mind of most)
It is very hard to find bad guys in the 50's
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North Koreans, yo.
swords
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What if he worked for the Soviets?
If the thirties is his mythic resting place, and he's placed into the fifties, then the character is likely to become more reflective of his age and in turn, death, since he's lost his era.
If the thrities are a metaphor for the Old West; and if the fifties are figuratively the New West, then Indy would be the modern equivalent of an cowboy, and in this case, an subscriber to a earlier way of thinking; he's anachronistic.
But what if he became suspicious of his own government? What if his social grievances around the world has blacklisted him? And this is not too unlikely in the McCarthy era; keeping a low profile on someone else's soil, surely Indy would seek refuge somewhere abroad, much like an outlaw would. Maybe for the sake of the story he's on a payroll with the Soviets to seek artifacts for ulterior motives, and Indy realizes this but isn't morally obliged to do anything, because he could care less in the big scheme of things until...
He realizes what the Soviets real intentions are, and then takes matters in his own hands to stop them...world domination, that sort of thing.
But overall, he's become an ex-patriot and he's strictly a independent.
If the thirties is his mythic resting place, and he's placed into the fifties, then the character is likely to become more reflective of his age and in turn, death, since he's lost his era.
If the thrities are a metaphor for the Old West; and if the fifties are figuratively the New West, then Indy would be the modern equivalent of an cowboy, and in this case, an subscriber to a earlier way of thinking; he's anachronistic.
But what if he became suspicious of his own government? What if his social grievances around the world has blacklisted him? And this is not too unlikely in the McCarthy era; keeping a low profile on someone else's soil, surely Indy would seek refuge somewhere abroad, much like an outlaw would. Maybe for the sake of the story he's on a payroll with the Soviets to seek artifacts for ulterior motives, and Indy realizes this but isn't morally obliged to do anything, because he could care less in the big scheme of things until...
He realizes what the Soviets real intentions are, and then takes matters in his own hands to stop them...world domination, that sort of thing.
But overall, he's become an ex-patriot and he's strictly a independent.
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Indy's_main_man
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Of they did a movie in the 40s...just a little earlier...they could do an al capone sort of thing.
Oh and props for the great thread AJ....Even though it kinda seems like you're thinking up reasons for Indy 4 not to happen ...but it barely avoids being labeled that kind of messages
Now we just gotta get you to post on some of the other topics
Oh and props for the great thread AJ....Even though it kinda seems like you're thinking up reasons for Indy 4 not to happen ...but it barely avoids being labeled that kind of messages
Now we just gotta get you to post on some of the other topics
Raffey
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AntiJones said:
Actually the Nazis weren't an enemy of the US either until 1941 but Jones seemed to have no problems hating them so Communistic Russia seems like an obvious solution. The Cold War pretty much started after WWII and strengthened during the 50s with their first successfully built hydrogen bomb and launching Sputnik into our space.
However, you don't really have to go that route. Indy's enemies could be mercenaries paid by a rival archeologist, local natives in an exotic location, or (and I'd personally hate to see this) some mytholical beings (statues coming to life, etc...or some other BS that should be left to Tomb Raider).
Re: What if he worked for the Soviets?
Some of IM's story development is far too superior considering the fact is technically a mediocre game. Of course, the man behind it is the same fellow who led the project with FoA, Hal Barwood, so... actually, even the whole idea of moving Indy past the great war was revolutionary.
But now we're going OT here... I just liked to point out that there <i>is</i> an existing, "official" Indiana Jones adventure that takes place in the Cold War era.
Now this is actually not a new thing... yep, the Infernal Machine again. In its end, Indy figures out that the Russian scholar who he thought to be working against simply hunts the artefacts because he wants them out of any hands that could use them for evil... and becomes friends with him. And he actually has to kill the CIA agent who tries to deploy the machine in order to topple the balance for the west.swords said:
Some of IM's story development is far too superior considering the fact is technically a mediocre game. Of course, the man behind it is the same fellow who led the project with FoA, Hal Barwood, so... actually, even the whole idea of moving Indy past the great war was revolutionary.
But now we're going OT here... I just liked to point out that there <i>is</i> an existing, "official" Indiana Jones adventure that takes place in the Cold War era.
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The idea that seems to be spawning here is...
Indy against the world! A lone, old fashioned archaeologist hounded by two governments bent on using ancient mythical powers for equally destructive purposes!
Kind of a cool idea, but I think it get a little too political. One of the reasons Indy worked so well is that the Nazis are so easy an evil foil, that one does not have to let politics and philosophy get in the way of the adventure.
A cynic would say it's a cop out, I would always call it a technique. That's neither here nor there. The point is, the bad guys should be something different, but not too different. Dig?
(and that's no easy chore)
Indy against the world! A lone, old fashioned archaeologist hounded by two governments bent on using ancient mythical powers for equally destructive purposes!
Kind of a cool idea, but I think it get a little too political. One of the reasons Indy worked so well is that the Nazis are so easy an evil foil, that one does not have to let politics and philosophy get in the way of the adventure.
A cynic would say it's a cop out, I would always call it a technique. That's neither here nor there. The point is, the bad guys should be something different, but not too different. Dig?
(and that's no easy chore)
How about this?
It is the year 1950's, what Indy did in the last crusade has actually caught on the attention of the Americans. As a result this spun off a lot of Indy wannabes and these people formed a cult group ordaining Indy as the saviour. However, along the line these people became violent and dangerous as they took preservation of archaeological artifact to the extreme. Having found out this cult group activities, Indy denounced them and as enraged the cult. At the same time , this cult group found a place which coincidentally fits their belief that it will be the place for the IJ wannabes - Jonestown, Guyana. As an act of revenge for betraying their faith, they kidnapped Indy's daughter. Indy have to battle these group of people to save not just the world but also his daughter
It is the year 1950's, what Indy did in the last crusade has actually caught on the attention of the Americans. As a result this spun off a lot of Indy wannabes and these people formed a cult group ordaining Indy as the saviour. However, along the line these people became violent and dangerous as they took preservation of archaeological artifact to the extreme. Having found out this cult group activities, Indy denounced them and as enraged the cult. At the same time , this cult group found a place which coincidentally fits their belief that it will be the place for the IJ wannabes - Jonestown, Guyana. As an act of revenge for betraying their faith, they kidnapped Indy's daughter. Indy have to battle these group of people to save not just the world but also his daughter
IAdventurer01
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AntiJones said:
Oops! Caught a flaw in your suggestion! As most people on this board who actually want to be here while being respectful to most others would know, Indy's escapades nomally go unbelieved. Seeing as he did not bring back any proof of the adventure, no one would believe him!
If you are going to make fun of us, and least do it well, while using logical and witty insults that actually correspond to our playing field, please.
Really, no one knows how to make fun of people well anymore!
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