1960s?

thefro

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Finn said:
The early 60's, surprisingly, is also the beginning of the Bond era.

Somehow it feels as they want to draw a fine line between these two heroes and keep Indy in the fifties...

The beginning of the Bond movie era, perhaps. "Casino Royale" was published in 1953.
 
The early 1960's is the ideal time for Indiana Jones 4 movie filmed in 2007, specifically 1962 as ive explained in other posts. Alot of time has passed since 1989 and alot has changed in the world since then and thus similarly alot of things should have changed in Indy's world and the early 1960's are different enough from the mid to late 1930's to reflect that. However 1962 and 1935 are similar enough as you can argue that its still part of the same generation just as 2007 is similar enough to 1980 to be the same "contemporary" era.

The time from the Kennedy assasination in 1963 to Nixon's resignation in 1974 was an era of chaos that changed cultural life that had existed since the great depresssion. Take the golden age of Hollywood for instance, roughly it corrosponds to the era between the advent of the talkies around 1930 to the early 1960's, thats roughly the career span of many silver screen actos such as Cary Grant, after that cinema changed and overt violence, sex and adult language became commonplace in film whereas during the silver screen era it was left out due to strict sensorship. So its almost like 1930-1963 is the timeframe in which Indiana Jones fits, 1963-1974 is the transition period culturally and 1974-present is the modern era in which we live in, the era in which the Indy movies were made.
 

Baron Brunwald

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I think the latest George and Steven will push it will be the early-to-mid-50's. 1956 at most. My bet is for 1949 or something.
 
Chicago:

"The time from the Kennedy assasination in 1963 to Nixon's resignation in 1974 was an era of chaos that changed cultural life that had existed since the great depresssion."

Surely the events of 1939 to 1945 (41-45 for the US) would constitute some kind of "era of chaos" in most people's books??

Early fifties it'll be.
 

James

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replican't said:
As people in those days lived harder lives and therefore looked older than they were, its conceivable that a 65 year old from 2007 could pass as a 55 year old in the mid '50s.

Exactly. Not to mention, Indy has led a far more stressful life (with higher mileage!) than most.

They have definitely waited too long, but I think audiences would still accept a late 40's setting. Everyone has gotten older along with Ford, and most moviegoers will likely be forgiving in this department. It was absurd for Stallone to reprise Rocky, yet audiences didn't really seem to have a problem with it.

I could see them doing a (very) early 50's setting, but I'd really be shocked if they attempted a 60's setting. These two decades are pretty firmly etched into pop culture, and they're really not what you think of when you think "Indiana Jones".

But it's an interesting topic, and one I suspect may really come down to the individual fan's age- rather than Ford's.
 

Moedred

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Anything after 1962 is too late. It's no accident American Graffiti and Animal House were set then. I'm not sure what state Faber College was supposed to be in (Tennessee?) but some slight reference like a football banner ("Beat Mongols") would fit in an Indy 5.
 

Moedred

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If Indy 4 is set in 1957, and the college in Animal House was intended to be in Pennsylvania... Faber could serve as a visiting sports team. Plus Belushi's character would have been a sophomore or freshman then...
 

deckard24

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IJ4 will have to be set in at least the mid to late 50's to accomodate Ford's age. Any earlier like late 40's or early 50's will not be possible without a lot of makeup and possible cgi enhancement of Ford's features(which I don't see Spielberg touching with a ten foot pole, Lucas maybe on his own).
If they did early 60's Ford's appearance would be right at home. The fedora would still be in style, but closing in on it's way out of mainstream popularity after Kennedy's death. I suppose Ford could pull off late 50's, but any younger I can't see. In any recent pic of him he's yet to be seen with dyed hair, which makes me wonder if they are really playing up his age in this one.There's also no evidence of a full Fugitve beard, which is kind of disappointing because I wanted to see a grizzled Indy. The beard would be so perfect on him as the ageing professor.
 

Violet

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Moedred said:
If Indy 4 is set in 1957, and the college in Animal House was intended to be in Pennsylvania... Faber could serve as a visiting sports team. Plus Belushi's character would have been a sophomore or freshman then...

What a guess for the year, Moedred! How did you figure that? Unfortunately, not in Pennsylvania....:hat:
 

Finn

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deckard24 said:
There's also no evidence of a full Fugitve beard, which is kind of disappointing because I wanted to see a grizzled Indy. The beard would be so perfect on him as the ageing professor.
I think the main reason for this is that it could be taken in the wrong way, ie. it's there simply to hide Ford's age.





<small>Perhaps 15 years ago, but nowadays they can use computers for that.</small> :p
 

deckard24

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Finn, that's true they probably don't want to age him anymore than he already is. But, I still think it would be cool if he had it in the beginning of the movie and then shaved it off. I just keep picturing Tommy Lee Jones look in The Hunted, and think it would fit Indy well. Yeah, the clean cut look(w/occasional stubble) is necessary for the movie as a whole.
 

Stoo

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Great minds think alike, deckard24!

Shaving off a beard would be a nice touch since it would connect with
Indy's 1950 look in "Mystery of the Blues".
 

Professor Jones

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indyt said:
No way man. A 62 year old adventurer is very realistic. I consider missionaries adventurers and I know many over 65 and 70. These guys are on boats, hike through the jungles and island hop to get where they need to go. I believe it is all in the heart, not the legs, arms, etc.

I agree... I work in a big law-firm: my boss is 75 and before being a lawyer he's a hunter, one of the world greatest. He still travels all over the world, in the most dangerous places (even alone, just accompained by local guides) chasing dangerous beasts and living in tents, camping in the woods at the worst condition (for instance in Chukotka). It's not the years...... :whip:
 

Stoo

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Raiders112390 said:
So what would you guys think of an Indy movie set anywhere between 1960 and 1964?
1962. Mutt pulls up to a red light, looks to his right, sees Bob Falfa behind the wheel and says, "Dad?!?":confused:
 

Moedred

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Here's reason enough for Indy to bust some heads in 1968, from the Weekly Standard:
From Columbia, certain images remain indelible: a photograph of a student sitting at the desk of President Grayson Kirk, smoking one of the president?s cigars; the smoldering, ransacked office of history Professor Orest Ranum, whose files had been raided and methodically burned, destroying 10 years of research for a textbook about early modern European history.
 

Raiders90

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Should Indy cross into the '60s?

If there is say an Indy 5, or even an Indy 6, how would you feel about the adventures being set in the 1960s? I was thinking the latest an Indy adventure could conceivably be set and not seem outdated would be 1963--as for some pop culture/sociology people, 1963--late 1963--marks the end of the Golden Era (particularly the end of the ''50s'') and the beginning of the '60s.

Whereas in early 1963 you still had Kennedy, hats were still around, Doo Wop was huge, by the end of 1963 you had LBJ as President, the Beatles released their first American album, Vietnam began to be escalated and thus the 60s truly began. I think Indy could go up to 1963, but not after--the ''60s'' (as in the Hippie 60s, not the classy James Bond early 60s) are past the era of men like Indy, where he would be a sort of anachronism, outmoded by other sorts of heroes.
 
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