HJJNR said:
OK it could work, if it doesn't I'll make a fresh one, I work pretty fast so it's not a problem. I almost placed the Paramount mountain in a clearing off in the distance but wasn't sure what you'd think of it so didn't bother, let me know what you think.
We're opening with the mountain so there's no need to include it twice. I might add a few cartoony foreground elemenst like leaves, etc. because it needs to be tighter, thicker and not as spacious. (The circle is not that big.) If you feel like making another, go ahead but all we really need right now is something to place in that layer as a test. Before you do anything unnecessary, I'll do a quick composite and see how it fits.
JuniorJones said:
The hand isn't an issue, I can easily sort. The "fortune and Glory" was a test, I can get Indy to say whatever we want. I suggest we ask INDYFAN4EVER to do us some dialogue, something original like "...Kids, it's all in the adventure." Once I've sorted the issues in what format do you want it in? Do you want me to colour it? If so, I could do with RYB's.
Oooh, that's an awful corny line, don't you think? Maybe Saboteur has a another suggestion? A b/w line animation would do for now but if you feel like adding colour then I'll provide the values. Format? I haven't decided yet...
Le Saboteur said:
1.) I understand what we're trying to recreate, but I still don't think we're far enough along to think about putting anything to music. What we have is a collection of action scenes that have absolutely zero context on a larger scale. While we don't need an established meta-plot, an idea of the motivations behind it all is necessary. Once all that's established, we can pull specific sequences out to animate, and then cobble together into a trailer.
2.) The entire march is five minutes, so we edited it down; rather than rely on it, how about use it as punctuation, like in the films? The only part anybody really remembers is the trumpet crescendo, and that's easily isolated to the opening, a really thrilling part of the trailer, and the end. Creating some "filler-type" music to flesh out the piece might also give us some greater leeway with the suits at Lucasfilm who are sure to jump all over the thing.
3.) I like HJJNR's background art; lots going on there. However, as it stands, it's going to look like Indy is playing about in front of a background, rather than be part of it. It's the painterly aspect of it all -- it should be more cartoony, and probably in black & white.
1) The reason why the scenes have no context is because we were going for the "Jonny Quest" type of opening where it's just a random series of clips from upcoming episodes. A "best of", one might say, and not a trailer. One element we may need is a brief romantic moment...y'know...for da goyles.
2) I remain steadfast to synching the animation to the music but don't want get bogged down over it. If someone feels up to the task of creating a unique cut then I won't argue (since it would open a door for more contribution) but keep in mind that with the classic Saturday morning stuff ('60s-early '80s), most of the opening sequences are structured/edited to match the theme tune. We'll have to discuss this some more. Any other opinions?
As per the legality issue: We're using the name/logo, the character & the H.Ford likeness so sourcing the music is just another drop in the bucket.
3) It would be great if it was more cartoony but HJJNR is willing to work on the backgronds and it looks like that is his style. I'll be doing some, as well but don't want the difference to be too jarring. With his permission, some of them may eventually be modified a bit.
holdeen said:
the background is cut together from some old paintings ive done for an animation.
PS.: i agree that the backgrounds should be a bit more cartoon like. also animation backgrounds consist of several, well-structured layers (especially jungle scenes). trees, foliage etc. even the lightbeams have to be on a separate layer
Gettin' the feel, there, holdeen! I'm glad you couldn't resist.
Yes, certain shots will have multiple layers but the question is: How fancy/modern do we want this to be? How old-school-Filmation-style do we want to stay? I say we limit ourselves to 10 layers max. (and that's for the most complicated shots). The simpler it is...the sooner we'll get it done.
IndyFan89 said:
Let me know when I'm needed.
Right on, 89.
What software do you have?
