Would you support a Bond-style re-cast of Indy after Kingdom?

spidey_99

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Hey- have not posted much on this forum in the past so not sure if you guys are looking for discussion/debate or just sort of a 'here's my thought, see ya!' one shot. So if you're not looking for a back and forth on this topic, my apologies :)

But a few things:

1- This idea that 'oooh, it's soooo hard to come up with an artifact to go after' I think is just BS. I hear Lucas say it all the time in the press and I'm left going: huh?!?! I mean, nothing has ever been as good as the Ark, altho the Grail came close. But come on, a Crystal Alien Skull? Some stones from India? These were master strokes? I have been very happy with most of the artifacts from the Indy games and comics. Heck, I was reading an Indy comic last nite in Omnibus 2 where Indy goes after the Golden Fleece. I was like: hey, that's a good one! So maybe if it really is that hard for Lucas to be the man coming up with the item, perhaps that is a sign that his better days as a creator are behind him?

2- As I said before- and my presence at such a die hard Indy forum should support- I am an Indy nut, thru and thru. No doubt. But I would much rather have had 5-7 new Indy adventures in the last 20 years versus simply one. And reality is, I thought Crystal Skull was crap. I LOVED it, cause it was Indy and saw it 5 times in the theater and it had a few great moments in it, for sure. But overall, I really thought it was bad. But you know, I was cool with that. It was Indy. And just like with Star Trek and Bond, some are gonna be better than others. Some will be near-classics (Goldeneye) and some will be dreck (License to Kill). But while it would be great if every swing at bat was a home run, to me the bigger point is to reunite with old 'friends' and get to visit the amazing world of Indy every 2-3 years. Not gonna happen with the perfectionist tendencies of Lucas (not that they yield perfection IMHO) and it's not gonna happen now that Ford is pushing 70.

3- Finally, sure, we all wish Harrison Ford would be Indy forever. But that will not happen, obviously. But man, I am so glad Bond continued beyond the expiration date of Connery. Brosnon was great and it seems like is Craig on the road the being great as well. Why in the world would we want our series to die? I mean, it'll never be Ford but that doesn't mean we can't have amazing new Indy adventures in store. Heck, when I saw Blood Diamond with Dicaprio I was like: dude, he would make a great new Indy!

But again, to each his own. I respect that. Just my 2 pennies.

Later ya'll!

Spidey

ps. if they let the series die out, I sure hope SOMEBODY comes up with a good rip off. It ain't the Mummy (walked out of part 3, just hated it). It ain't Tomb Raider (coulda been with some good directors but they both are terrible). I know making movies is not easy but dang, could SOMEBODY out there make a good action/adventure flick again?
 
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Bvance

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If they did a young Indy for part of the movie, similar to River Phoenix in LC and then continue the movie with Harrison Ford that would be Ok, but if they just throw in another actor to play the role, I would be very disappointed.

Harrison Ford IS Indy, so an Indyesque movie without him better not be called Indiana Jones.
 

jdm_jib

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yeah id accept a young indy, maybe not for half the movie...maybe a extended opening sequence like in LC but def a good idea to think about.
 

deckard24

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spidey_99 said:
ps. on a total tangent- has anyone noticed- and been annoyed like I have- that ALL of the Indy print materials that have been published since KOTCS hit refer to Indy as DR. HENRY JONES JR.?!? I mean, what the HELL is up with Lucas?!? First he changes the titles of the movies (at least Raiders) and now he's trying to get us to see the character name as HENRY JONES JR. vs. INDIANA? I think the man honestly has a true dislike for his fan base...like he resents and mocks us and feels we're all fools. And I've met the guy, he's a bit of a jerk, truth be told. So I could actually see this being the reason. But then again, maybe I'm reading too much into it. :) But still, am I the only one to notice this?

You're not the only one, Lucas is a funny little man!

He hit them out of the park with the Star Wars OTC(even though Jedi was a bit weak!), and because of a masterful partnership with Spielberg(in his best years!!) did the same with the original Indy series! Unfortunately both of these two have really taken a nosedive where artistic credibility is concerned, especially Spielberg. He's the most disappointing, because in my opinon Lucas was a one-hit wonder, whereas Spielberg was a certified film legend! It's all a shame really! I still have some faith in The Berg, but I've given up all hope for Lucas. He really needs to retire from film, and just stick to advancing technology since that's all he really seems to care about. Everything in the last 10 years from him has just been a testing ground for the latest and greatest technological feats, regardless of story, acting, etc...

Enough is enough George, time to call it quits!!

Like I said before I'd prefer the Indy series to end with Ford, no more sequels and or reboots! I only suggested Gerard Butler, because if it did actually happen he's the only guy I can think of that I'd actually not hate seeing in the role. As for sequels with LaBeouf in the lead and Ford playing second fiddle...hell no!! The same goes for LaBeouf in any significant role in the future of the franchise!(n)
 
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Forbidden Eye

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I remember in late April I was talking with a couple people about movies discussing Indiana Jones and they both thought "Harrison Ford is too old. They should just replace him like Bond."

I think what most people don't understand is that Bond is a literary character. It can work to have so many different actors portray him because there's many ways to play the character(the most distinguishable being Daniel Craig who gives a more wise-ass vibe to the character)as there is no definite James Bond except in literary form.

Indiana Jones is a character created directly for the screen. So therefor Ford will always be the definite Indiana Jones. There's often times even when people can't distinguish Harrison Ford from Indiana Jones because of how memorable that character is. The very idea of imagining someone else playing Indiana Jones in an Indiana Jones movie is pretty impossible to conceive.

So Indiana Jones is alive(cinematically speaking anyway) as long as Harrison Ford is alive.
 

Dewy9

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I didn't read all the posts in this thread, but Harrison is Indy. He is the only one who should be Indy in anything live action. I'd kill to have an animated Indy series a few years down the road once LucasAnimation gets their act together. Get some really good writers (perhaps the ones who have done these latest Indy comics which are out now) and don't dumb it down.

I don't think George is going to let Indy die away like he did with the franchise and with Star Wars back in the mid-80's.
 

JediPug1

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Indy is Harrison and Harrison is Indy. I just can't see it any other way... not that other actors mentioned in this thread couldn't pull it off... The character would never be the same, IMO.
 

T.A.Colon

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For myself I will have to say no. Bond represents 007 and the agent. So you can get past different people reprising the roles. But Harrison Ford is Indiana Jones. And as much as I like Harrison Ford, I wish that they had stayed with Baldwin after Hunt for Red October and the rest of the Clancey films.
The bigger question to ask is , even if they did recast what if it wasn't Lucas or Speiberg. Those guys are getting older as well. Would you risk the character and story or reputation of the series for a newer version. Sometimes they work, sometimes they are disasters.
All multi sequels run that risk. But this series has for the most part always had the same crew with its care and vision.
 

deckard24

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Even though I'm still not crazy about the idea of a reboot, one option I could see would be a prequel film with a younger actor tackling the role. When I say prequel I mean a good 8-10 years before Doom with a 26-28 year old Indy. With this route no one would be up in arms with the recasting of Ford, and it would bring a youthfulness to the role that they were striving for with the casting of LaBeouf in KOTCS!

Now as for who could play a young Indy, my vote is for Jensen Ackles! I suggested him once before several months ago, and in the time since I've had the opportunity to actually watch him in more then one episode of Supernatural. In my opinion the guy would be perfect for the role, he's got the looks, he's got a great dry sarcastic wit like Ford, he nails the action elements with ease, and he's still relatively unknown so he doesn't bring any baggage to the role.


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Henry Jones Sr

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I don't know if it's been mentioned yet, as I don't have the time necessary to sift through eight pages of posts, but the British hit science fiction series "Doctor Who" springs to mind.

The television series began in 1963, ran until 1989, was revived as an "Americanized" feature film in 1996, was revived again on British television in 2005, and is still currently running. In the past 45 years, the Doctor has been portrayed on television and film by ten different actors. Granted, actor replacement is brilliantly written into the stories, as the Doctor's species can "regenerate" and live on in a new body once their previous body expires. However, Doctor Who lives on in British culture (and in American culture, to some extent) to this very day, and it isn't going anywhere.

I think it would do the legacy of Indiana Jones wonders to recast the role as it's been done for 45 years on both James Bond and Doctor Who (both started in '63, BTW; only James Bond was a novelization before a feature film franchise). I would definitely support a "Bond-style" recast of Indiana Jones.
 

Indy's brother

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I searched this thread and didn't find this suggestion. If I missed it, I apologize. I'm not into a recast, but I always thought Sean William Scott could pull off a younger Indy, you just have to erase "Stiffler" from your mind:
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The best Indy-esque shot I could find was at imdb, but it wouldn't let me copy the image address. Here's the link:http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2408487168/nm0005405

If anyone can post it here for me, I'd appreciate it!
 

deckard24

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Indy's brother said:
I searched this thread and didn't find this suggestion. If I missed it, I apologize. I'm not into a recast, but I always thought Sean William Scott could pull off a younger Indy, you just have to erase "Stiffler" from your mind:
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The best Indy-esque shot I could find was at imdb, but it wouldn't let me copy the image address. Here's the link:http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2408487168/nm0005405

If anyone can post it here for me, I'd appreciate it!
A while back if you'd mentioned Sean William Scott I would've laughed, but after thinking about it I can see where you're coming from! He does have the looks, the physique, and the acting chops. My only gripe is he's so closely associated with playing a goofball, that I think people would have a really hard time seeing him in such a semi-serious role! The character of Indy is not Hamlet by any means, but still you'd have to carry yourself a certain way, as well as have a presence that I don't believe Scott has! All in all not a bad suggestion though!:hat:

My vote is still for Ackles!
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muttjones

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Yeh Ackles would be good. Maybe it could be a Young Indy feature film with Harrison playing Old Indy at the start and Ackles as the main Young Indy.
 

oki9Sedo

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No.

Recasting Bond was different. Connery had been in the role for 9 years or so before they recast. Ford has been in the role for 27 years. He is far too engrained in fan's and indeed the general public's minds for a replacement to ever be accepted, which was not the case with Bond.
 

deckard24

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muttjones said:
Yeh Ackles would be good. Maybe it could be a Young Indy feature film with Harrison playing Old Indy at the start and Ackles as the main Young Indy.
I like that idea! :hat:

If they can pull off another film with Ford minus the family entourage, that would be great! But, if they are thinking a reboot or a less Ford centered film, the younger pre TOD Indy would be the best bet in my opinion! We've already had River Phoenix and Sean Patrick Flannery's interpretations of a young Indy, why not try again? Ackles is a young looking 30 years old, and if anyone who's ever watched Supernatural can see, he's definitely studied the Harrison Ford playbook on acting. With this scenario we still get Ford in the bookend scenes, as well as seeing a good no holds barred action packed Indy flick with a younger actor. After all I think it's realistic to say Ford pulled off KOTCS with flying colors, but unless they get on the move quick, he's gonna be 70 before we know it!
 

foreignerfred

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If they do a Post-Last Crusade / Pre-Crystal Skull, 1940's era series my vote is for DENNIS QUAID!!!

But,

If they do a restart, Pre-Temple of Doom, early 1930's era series my vote is for NATHAN FILLION!!!

I would LOVE either of those choices, but I think it might be better to go with my first option, the 1940's era series, because that way you 1.) don't do away with Harrison Ford's portrayal/timeline and 2.) you have a whole decade of intrigue that was mentioned in KOTCS, but we'll never get to see (except in expanded universe novels).

Since Lucas is going back and covering the Clone Wars in greater detail, here's hoping that one day we get to see a 1940's Indy up on the big screen!
 
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