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Old 03-18-2016, 02:32 PM   #551
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Too bad there's no complete YIJC soundtrack yet - I would definitely purchase something like this. I still collect some CD's, but hardly get anymore these days. However, I would definitely get a set like this.

I only have 2?! of the previously released YIJC soundtrack sets...
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Old 03-18-2016, 04:33 PM   #552
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Last we heard (via Laird?), the owners had the license for the YIJC music bundled with the music for the films. So Indy V might be good news here if Intrada snags the rights...
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Old 03-19-2016, 07:17 AM   #553
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Too bad there's no complete YIJC soundtrack yet - I would definitely purchase something like this. I still collect some CD's, but hardly get anymore these days. However, I would definitely get a set like this.

I only have 2?! of the previously released YIJC soundtrack sets...


When you say "sets", I assume you mean single-disc albums, right? I'm not aware of any boxed sets or anything like that...
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Old 03-19-2016, 11:46 AM   #554
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When you say "sets", I assume you mean single-disc albums, right? I'm not aware of any boxed sets or anything like that...

Right - sorry for the confusion there. I meant the individual CD's with music from the show; I think there were at least 3 CD's.
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Old 03-19-2016, 01:29 PM   #555
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Right - sorry for the confusion there. I meant the individual CD's with music from the show; I think there were at least 3 CD's.

4 plus a "best of". http://YoungIndianaJonesMusic.com for deets.
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Old 03-22-2016, 01:13 PM   #556
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Wow - forgot there were four CD's. I've got the first one & the third one.
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Old 03-28-2016, 04:10 PM   #557
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Last we heard (via Laird?), the owners had the license for the YIJC music bundled with the music for the films. So Indy V might be good news here if Intrada snags the rights...

Sounds slightly promising, if not extremely encouraging....I agree that the promotion surrounding an Indy 5 film will probably be the ONLY way we will see expanded YIJC soundtracks.

It took KOTCS to be released before we could get a decent soundtrack set from all the Classic Indy films - i.e., that small but fantastic boxed set that was released back in Fall 2008. If not for Crystal Skull, I doubt we would ever gotten all of these expanded IJ soundtracks released. Prior to 2008, the only decent soundtrack we had was an individual expanded ROTLA release - from around 1994/1995. The only TOD soundtrack out there was foreign (Japanese, I think), and I can't remember if LC had ever even got an expanded release.

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Old 08-12-2016, 01:09 AM   #558
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This week's IndyCast has an interview with Steve Bramson. Mentioned over in its usual thread, but calling it out here too for those who aren't regular listeners.

http://theindycast.com/indycast-episode-235/

Stay tuned for more exciting news soon...
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Old 08-14-2016, 10:23 PM   #559
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Lightbulb Young Indiana Jones Music in Staff of Kings (Wii Version)

Hello everyone!

This is my first post on The Raven! Been watching some walkthroughs for the Wii version of Staff of Kings, and it has occurred to me that the soundtrack is littered with unreleased Young Indy music, not previously featured in the Lego games or the DVD extra content. So, I took it upon myself to create this list below, which features exactly 20 pieces of music, which, to the best of my knowledge, are all previously unreleased tracks, or are at least, extensions of existing ones. Of this number, I have managed to identify only 9 of them. You will notice I have posted links to the walkthrough videos, with little footnotes of where exactly the music begins and stops [also, those which have been identified, have the DVD duration period listed for comparison(s)]. For those of you Young Indy music enthusiasts, I need your good ears to help identify which episodes these tracks are from as well as the scene(s)!

I've been working with InexorableTash to put together this list, in order to help further complete his database at youngindianajonesmusic.com. I'm told that it is possible to legally rip audio files from Wii Discs and save them to your desktop in mp3 format (like in the Lego Indy games), but alas, we still have yet to test this (I don't own a Wii). Does anybody have a copy of the game they would be willing to experiment with, so we can find out for sure? Even if this is not possible, at least we know that the music is out there in one form or another!

I would like to apologize in advance for the quality of the walkthrough videos. Though all are available in HD 1080p, the game itself, is not very polished. At times, it can be quite difficult to listen to the music because the sound design is rather jarring. The soundtrack will sometimes get completely swallowed by some background SFX, dialogue and other actions on the screen. All you can, do is turn up your volume (but no too high), listen hard and listen carefully! I appreciate your understanding and patience ... (special thanks go to WishingTikal and JDGamerWalkthroughs on YouTube, for uploading these awesome videos)!

Just to avoid confusion, because I modeled this list after InexorableTash's Episode Cue List, some "identified" tracks have the words "unnamed track" listed next to them. This just means that they are not featured on his list, but are still used in the episode. The titles I provided are just short descriptions to add context, and are not, by any means, legitimate or "finalized" titles (but, it doesn't hurt to make suggestions, eh Tash?).

Thanks so much for taking the time to read this already bloated post, and I invite all who read this to, please, preview these videos whenever you get the chance (we need all the help we can get)! Feel free to take your time and to do it gradually, because there is enough to get through ...

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1) Starting Menu - Unnamed Track ["Archduke's Palace" (background/source music)] from Perils of Cupid/Vienna, 1908.

Video Duration: 0:16 - 0:48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bJoKZL2jRc

DVD Duration: 0:29:22 - 0:31:08

2) Sudan mission (Combat Tutorial) - "Connecting the Cable" (Incomplete) from Espionage Escapades/Prague, 1917.

Video Duration: 9:26 - 14:03

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-Lc...QppvaQ&index=1

DVD Duration: 1:24:49 - 1:25:40, 1:26:23 - 1:27:42, & 1:29:15 - 1:29:37

3) Sudan mission (Combat Tutorial) - "Dogfight with the Red Baron" (Possible Extension) from Attack of the Hawkmen.

Video Duration: 14:03 - 16:12

(Link Above)

DVD Duration: 0:33:57 - 0:34:45

4) Chinatown mission (Secret Basement Under "Tan's Exotic Imports") - Unknown Track (Very quiet, listen carefully).

Video Duration: 1:55 - 2:12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI4w...QppvaQ&index=3

5) Chinatown mission [The Star of the Orient (in-game cut-scene)] - Unnamed Track ("The Great Wall Scene") from Journey of Radiance/Peking, 1910.

Video Duration: 4:47 - 5:05

(Link Above)

DVD Duration: 0:57:05 - 0:57:22

6) Panama mission ("Recovery" from the Shoot-out in the Mayan Ruin) - Unnamed Track ("Plan ... has ... failed") from Daredevils of the Desert.

Video Duration: 11:29 - 11:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DaG...QppvaQ&index=4

DVD Duration: 0:59:10 - 0:59:18

7) Panama mission [In-game Cut-scene (Indy Overlooking the Camp at the Lagoon)] - Unnamed Track ("The Lighthorsemen Behold Beersheba") from Daredevils of the Desert .

Video Duration: 12:30 - 12:46

(Link Above)

DVD Duration: 0:58:20 - 0:58:36

8) Panama mission (Shootout at the Falls/Temple of the Three Rivers) - "Assault on Gaza" (Extended) from Daredevils of the Desert.

Video Duration: 3:11 - 4:45

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbtP...Po-y8sR3QppvaQ

Episode Duration: 0:00:28 - 0:02:59

9) Panama mission (Entering the Sacred Tree Room) - Unnamed Track ["It's Beersheba!" (Hard to hear due to SFX)].

Video Duration: 8:28 - 8:50

(Link Above)

DVD Duration: 0:49:18 - 0:49:33

10) Panama mission (Knocking the Three Stone Heads) - Unknown Track (Again, hard to hear, listen carefully).

Video Duration: 17:09 - 17:22

(Link Above)

11) Panama mission (Mayan Astronomy Puzzle) - Possible Extended Track (Fragments from previous Lego Indy Games).

Video Duration: 13:20 - 15:43

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOuN...Po-y8sR3QppvaQ

12) Istanbul mission (Trapped with the Nazi Agents) - Unknown Track.

Video Duration: 3:56 - 5:03

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qj8...Po-y8sR3QppvaQ

13) Istanbul mission (Third Descent into the Catacombs) - Unknown Track.

Video Duration: 21:01 - 22:08

(Link Above)

14) Istanbul mission (Activating the Final Statue) - Unknown Cue.

Video Duration: 30:32 - 30:50

(Link Above)

15) Istanbul mission (Floor Puzzle solved/Final Battle with the Nazi Agents) - Unnamed Track ("First Battle with the Pirates") from Treasure of the Peacock's Eye.

Video Duration: 31:32 - 33:00

(Link Above)

DVD Duration: 0:46:08 - 0:48:16

16) Istanbul Mission (Turkish Spider Tunnel) - Unknown Track.

Video Duration: 0:20 - 0:51

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYcs...Po-y8sR3QppvaQ

17) Nepal Mission (The Chasm) - Unknown Cue.

Video Duration: 5:42 - 5:48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMwX...QppvaQ&index=9

18) Nepal Mission (Demolishing the Boulder) - Unknown Cue.

Video Duration: 15:27 - 15:35

(Link Above)

19) Nepal Mission (Entering the Nepalese Temple) - Unknown Cue.

Video Duration: 0:11 - 0:22

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg8f...Po-y8sR3QppvaQ

20) Nepal Mission (Solving the Reed Basket Riddle) - Unknown Track.

Video Duration: 6:57 - 7:33

(Link Above)
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Old 08-18-2016, 09:11 AM   #560
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A huge thanks to flyingace1939 for sharing this discovery!

I can only assume the deafening silence from Stoo, Demitasse, and other regulars on this thread is because there has been so little news lately and they've dropped the habit of checking. Hopefully they'll chime in at some point.

I also don't have a Wii or mad ripping skillz but I assume the game is cheap on eBay at the moment. Heck, I bet Wiis are cheap now...
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Old 08-18-2016, 09:42 PM   #561
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I assume the game is cheap on eBay at the moment. Heck, I bet Wiis are cheap now...[/quote]

I think it depends on whether you buy the console new or used. I saw some up for sale on Amazon; the used ones vary from $25.00 (plus shipping) and up whereas the new ones vary from $225.00 and up. Either way, still less expensive than when they were first released!

As for the game, that one in particular would be a good buy! It's got tons of extra content (no DLC here), a new co-op campaign and an updated version of Fate of Atlantis!!!
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Old 08-19-2016, 09:57 AM   #562
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I had this game on PS2 and it was horrible, is there a difference between the Wii and PS2 versions ??

(Mods: are we alright here with this or take to game section ??)
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Old 08-19-2016, 11:09 AM   #563
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I can't verify with 100% certainty due to the lack of high quality, complete walkthroughs (without commentary) available on YouTube. But, to my knowledge, the PS2 version was a rushed port of the Wii - hence, the problems you pointed out - so, apart from the frame-rate and gameplay, it should be pretty much the same in graphic and sound design.

If you still have the game, would you be willing to see if the audio can be extracted? We would greatly appreciate it!

Also, I don't know much about Mods. Do they tend to impact/alter a game's soundtrack?
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Old 08-19-2016, 11:30 AM   #564
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Also, I don't know much about Mods. Do they tend to impact/alter a game's soundtrack?

We don't usually, no.

Anyway, micsteam, I'd say this is a solid, long-running thread, and it's probably better if the discussion of the game focuses on its potential as a music source, but obviously, if anyone is thinking of buying the game for that purpose, some curiosity and discussion of its other qualities is far from out of place.

There is, of course, a good thread about that game here.
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Thanks Attila for the link, my questions were answered. It seems the game was bad on both platforms maybe with the exception of the music.
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Old 08-28-2016, 04:21 AM   #566
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Hot damn, what a bombshell! Sorry for my late arrival to the party- got caught up with a pretty intense move.

Can't wait to get started on these. Glad the gauntlet has been thrown down once again since I missed it the first time around. Tally ho!
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Demitasse,

It's never too late (the party never ends)! It's good to have you on board and I hope you're comfortable in your new home!

Curious, does your username mean "half glass"?
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Ace, yup, it refers to one of the shotglass type glasses they serve Turkish/Arabic coffee in. Young Indy gets offered one (or is possibly nicknamed that as a codename) at the start of Palestine, October 1917 aka "Daredevils of the Desert".
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Exclamation Updated List!

Hello again,

I'd like to thank you guys for the great feedback you've been offering! I'm really glad to see that there are people who are interested ...

I just thought I would share an updated version of this list as, since I originally posted it, it came to my attention that I missed an additional, unknown track which I also speculate to be from the show, and previously, unreleased! Plus, I found a much better quality version of the track "Secret Basement under 'Tan's Exotic Imports'" (#5).

In addition I managed to identify 2 other tracks which eluded me before! Panama mission's "Knocking the Three Stone Heads" (#11) is from Treasure of the Peacock's Eye, and plays during the scene where Indy and Remy encounter the giant stone frieze in the museum at Alexandria. Istanbul's "Turkish Spider Tunnel" (#17) is from Laurence Rosenthal's unreleased score of Morocco, 1917, the second half of Tales of Innocence! It is used for the witty banter exchange between Edith Wharton and Sheikh Kamal.

I also thought it would be a good idea, and would make it much easier, if I embedded the SoK walkthrough videos in my post, rather than just paste the links ... I didn't think of how having eleven different tabs open simultaneously in a browser can be a royal pain in the a**! As always, any help or insight you guys can offer is greatly appreciated! Even if you have only the faintest of ideas, please, don't hesitate to sound off!

Smaller changes have been made, most notably with the formatting of my notes. I hope I have made them more organized by providing labels written in bold, which I think more clearly discern the *Identified* tracks from the mysterious ones, and have also written the episode titles in italics (which I intended but forgot to do in my first post) .

FYI: I am planning on creating a new thread in the Young Indy forum dedicated to my list, where it can hopefully gain some more attention, as this post does run a little long (at 20 or so pages) and perhaps, it gets overlooked here. For those who are interested, I will post the link below once it's been shared, but I will still continue to post all updates in this thread too!

Cheers,
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1) Starting Menu - *Identified*: Untitled ["Archduke's Palace" (background/source music)] from Perils of Cupid/Vienna, 1908.

Walkthrough Duration: 0:16 - 0:48 DVD Duration: 0:29:22 - 0:31:08



2) Sudan mission (Combat Tutorial) - *Identified*: "Connecting the Cable" (Incomplete) from Espionage Escapades/Prague, 1917.

Walkthrough Duration: 9:26 - 14:03
DVD Duration: 1:24:49 - 1:25:40, 1:26:23 - 1:27:42, & 1:29:15 - 1:29:37



3) Sudan mission (Combat Tutorial) - *Identified*: "Dogfight with the Red Baron" (Possible Extension) from Attack of the Hawkmen.

Walkthrough Duration: 14:03 - 16:12 DVD Duration: 0:33:57 - 0:34:45

(Video Above)

4) Chinatown mission ('Black Cat' Crossing) - Unknown Track

Walkthrough Duration: 1:07 - 1:21



5) Chinatown mission (Secret Basement Under "Tan's Exotic Imports") - Unknown Track.

Walkthrough Duration: 4:40 - 5:04 & 5:19 - 5:48

(Video Above)

6) Chinatown mission [The Star of the Orient (in-game cut-scene)] - *Identified*: Untitled ("The Great Wall Scene") from Journey of Radiance/Peking, 1910.

Walkthrough Duration: 4:47 - 5:05 DVD Duration: 0:57:05 - 0:57:22

(Video Above)

7) Panama mission ('Recovery' from the Shoot-out in the Mayan Ruin) - *Identified*: Untitled ("Plan ... has ... failed") from Daredevils of the Desert.

Walkthrough Duration: 11:29 - 11:40 DVD Duration: 0:59:10 - 0:59:18



8) Panama mission [In-game Cut-scene (Indy Overlooking the Camp at the Lagoon)] - *Identified*: Untitled ("The Lighthorsemen Behold Beersheba") from Daredevils of the Desert.

Walkthrough Duration: 12:30 - 12:46 DVD Duration: 0:58:20 - 0:58:36

(Video Above)

9) Panama mission (Shootout at the Falls/Temple of the Three Rivers) - *Identified*: "Assault on Gaza" (Extended) from Daredevils of the Desert.

Walkthrough Duration: 3:11 - 4:45 DVD Duration: 0:00:28 - 0:02:59



10) Panama mission (Entering the Sacred Tree Room) - *Identified*: Untitled ["It's Beersheba!" from Daredevils of the Desert (Hard to hear due to SFX)].

Walkthrough Duration: 8:28 - 8:50 DVD Duration: 0:49:18 - 0:49:33

(Video Above)

11) Panama mission (Knocking the Three Stone Heads) - *Identified*: Untitled ["Alexander and His Troops" from Treasure of the Peacock's Eye (Again, hard to hear, listen carefully)].

Walkthrough Duration: 17:09 - 17:22 DVD Duration: 0:15:00 - 0:15:17

(Video Above)

12) Panama mission (Mayan Astronomy Puzzle) - Unknown, Possible Extended Track (Fragments from previous Lego Indy Games).

Walkthrough Duration: 13:20 - 15:43



13) Istanbul mission (Trapped with the Nazi Agents) - Unknown Track.

Walkthrough Duration: 3:56 - 5:03



14) Istanbul mission (Third Descent into the Catacombs) - Unknown Track.

Walkthrough Duration: 21:01 - 22:08

(Video Above)

15) Istanbul mission (Activating the Final Statue) - Unknown Cue.

Walkthrough Duration: 30:32 - 30:50

(Video Above)

16) Istanbul mission (Floor Puzzle solved/Final Battle with the Nazi Agents) - *Identified*: Untitled ("First Battle with the Pirates") from Treasure of the Peacock's Eye.

Walkthrough Duration: 31:32 - 33:00 DVD Duration: 0:46:08 - 0:48:16

(Video Above)

17) Istanbul Mission (Turkish Spider Tunnel) - *Identified*: Untitled ("Edith and the Sheikh" from Tales of Innocence/Morroco, 1917).

Walkthrough Duration: 0:20 - 0:51 DVD Duration: 1:16:03 - 1:16:37



18) Nepal Mission (The Chasm) - Unknown Cue.

Walkthrough Duration: 5:42 - 5:48



19) Nepal Mission (Demolishing the Boulder) - Unknown Cue.

Walkthrough Duration: 15:27 - 15:35

(Video Above)

20) Nepal Mission (Entering the Nepalese Temple) - Unknown Cue.

Walkthrough Duration: 0:11 - 0:22



21) Nepal Mission (Solving the Reed Basket Riddle) - Unknown Track.

Walkthrough Duration: 6:57 - 7:33

(Video Above)
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I don't know much about Mods. Do they tend to impact/alter a game's soundtrack?

Just wanted to apologize to micsteam and Atilla for any confusion here; it has taken me until now to realize that "Mods" are short for "Moderators". Since we were talking about the game, I thought micsteam meant "Mods", as in user-generated "modifications" to games!

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Ace, yup, it refers to one of the shotglass type glasses they serve Turkish/Arabic coffee in. Young Indy gets offered one (or is possibly nicknamed that as a codename) at the start of Palestine, October 1917 aka "Daredevils of the Desert".

Sweet! Yes, I remember that scene with Indy drinking tea with a young Ben Miller in a cafe! Although, I think in that scene they are drinking out of china cups ...?

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Wow - it's been a while since I've visited! Great to see new discoveries are still being made, makes me wish we could make some progress on a new soundtrack release

I was just listening to the classic John Williams score for "Hook" and my ears perked up - see if you notice any similarities between these two tracks...

"21st Royal Fusileers" (YIJC Vol. IV)

"The Banquet" (Hook)
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I was just listening to the classic John Williams score for "Hook" and my ears perked up - see if you notice any similarities between these two tracks...

Incredible ...! The resemblance is uncanny! Good find, MDew!

It makes sense that Williams would have been an inspiration for McNeely working on Phantom Train in '92 to '93, as evidenced by his harkening to cues and themes lifted from The Last Crusade. In particular, notes from "The Belly of the Steel Beast/On the Tank" appear in "The Phantom Train of Doom" and "Indy Hijacks the Balloon"!

That being said, Hook was released in 1991, at least a full year before production on that episode. Due to it's striking similarities, can one assume there's a slight case of plagiarism, here?
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When in doubt, I blame temp music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfqkvwW2fs&t=5m53s

It wouldn't surprise me a whit if McNeely were given marching orders in the form of temp music.
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Thanks for sharing that, Tash! That's very true about the MCU music, although I think Patrick Doyle's main theme for the first Thor movie, and Alan Silvestri's scores for Captain America and The Avengers are the exception to this. Oddly enough, those haven't been used since the end of Phase 1, and the studio has instead opted to use these bland, soulless scores heard in the video.

Overall, the message of the video is positive: if you want to make something unique/original, why compromise it by using old methods?

It does make me feel a little down, though. I never used to think temp music was a bad thing: I was under the impression that it helped inspire the composers creativity and/or create a framework to match the filmmaker's vision. Well, lesson learned.

When I made amateur films with my high school buds, I usually provided material from big budget Hollywood movies to whomever did the editing - especially if I was the one who wrote the script (if you could call it that). Those pieces of course would make it into the final product, which is understandable, because none of us were musicians and we needed a soundtrack! Besides, there was no profit motive behind these films to begin with, so copyright(s) didn't worry us. Yet, still ... before we would start filming, I always imagined each individual scene in my head played to the beat of music that I had already heard before and loved. I became so emotionally attached to those pieces, that I was absolutely convinced they had to be there in the same way I imagined them and nothing short of that would do. Though I don't make amateur films anymore, I'm still guilty of applying this same mistake to other things ...

... which leads me to a query: for those of us 'artists' who are not 'musically savvy'; how do we instruct a composer on how to properly represent our work, without forsaking originality and the composer's own creative liberty?

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