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Old 03-27-2008, 06:31 PM   #26
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It never occurred to me this is an official Indy book.
Keep the spoilery revelations over here:
http://raven.theraider.net/showthread.php?t=13378
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Old 03-27-2008, 07:01 PM   #27
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Aliens... I'm still hoping that they're not going to be extremely weird looking spider like things... oh wait... That's how they looked in SMFM!

Seems like the quicksand scene where Marion tells Indy and Mutt that they're father and son, might be legit. Well, at least we know Indy is in the quicksand.

The rocketsled was already confirmed with the action figures talk- there was apparently an Indy figure that came with a roket sled.

How do you break free from being tied up out of interest?
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Old 03-27-2008, 07:10 PM   #28
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Aliens... I'm still hoping that they're not going to be extremely weird looking spider like things... oh wait... That's how they looked in SMFM!

It seems like I'm the only one who hopes they look like the CE3K aliens.
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Old 03-27-2008, 07:22 PM   #29
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They will look "human" more or less... if ther are trying to connect archaeology with ufology... well, that's the way to do it.

It still sounds to scientologic for me
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The rocketsled was already confirmed with the action figures talk- there was apparently an Indy figure that came with a roket sled.

That would be this...

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/tf2008/...on/image20.asp
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Old 03-27-2008, 09:50 PM   #31
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I just picked mine up. It was in the TV section at the local store. They had a hard time finding it on the computer because it's not supposed to be out until May.
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Old 03-28-2008, 02:54 AM   #32
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How about scanning a page that talks about the alien and fridge stuff.

...I just want to see it with my own eyes...
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Old 03-28-2008, 03:08 AM   #33
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I’m already smelling the backlash. Lucas especially has to be preparing for it. Someone mentioned scientology. I can't help but think that as well. Personally this sounds like Indiana Jones discovers Scientology! I’m just not digging this, and if this can officially be confirmed, I’m fairly positive I’ll walk out of Crystal Skull less then enthusiastic. I’m positive I won’t be alone either. What a true shame too. I never thought I’d see the day when Indiana Jones meets Close Encounters. I’d be better off if I didn’t have to see it at all…

When Indy meets the Aliens, I’m certainly going to want to get out of there…out of the theater that is.
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Old 03-28-2008, 03:21 AM   #34
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why, you liked
1-glowing stones?
2-700 year old men and invisible walkways?
3-the power of god inside a briefcase?


I think we're closer to discovering aliens then any of the above three..so

whut u talking bout willis?
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Old 03-28-2008, 03:25 AM   #35
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Iím already smelling the backlash. Lucas especially has to be preparing for it. Someone mentioned scientology. I can't help but think that as well. Personally this sounds like Indiana Jones discovers Scientology! Iím just not digging this, and if this can officially be confirmed, Iím fairly positive Iíll walk out of Crystal Skull less then enthusiastic. Iím positive I wonít be alone either. What a true shame too. I never thought Iíd see the day when Indiana Jones meets Close Encounters. Iíd be better off if I didnít have to see it at allÖ

When Indy meets the Aliens, Iím certainly going to want to get out of thereÖout of the theater that is.

Aliens is exactly what I've been wanting to see in the film, so this has made my day. I'm hoping that the film does as rumored, and reveals that the power of the Ark, Sankara stones, and Holy Grail came from an alien species who originated the human race (who would therefore be the God that so many world religions have speculated on).
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Old 03-28-2008, 03:28 AM   #36
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Old 03-28-2008, 03:43 AM   #37
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Aliens is exactly what I've been wanting to see in the film, so this has made my day. I'm hoping that the film does as rumored, and reveals that the power of the Ark, Sankara stones, and Holy Grail came from an alien species who originated the human race (who would therefore be the God that so many world religions have speculated on).


Yes because ironically everything Indy's ever found is of extraterrestrial origin.

That's a damned awful idea. Leave the films separate, leave them as a serial, stop with all this "everything's connected" bull****. Ugh, I hate Hollywood. "Look how we can retcon everything to death to make an extra buck."
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Old 03-28-2008, 03:48 AM   #38
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Yes because ironically everything Indy's ever found is of extraterrestrial origin.

That's a damned awful idea. Leave the films separate, leave them as a serial, stop with all this "everything's connected" bull****. Ugh, I hate Hollywood. "Look how we can retcon everything to death to make an extra buck."

I just think it would make for an awe-inspiring revelation to Indy and friends, a la the ending of CE3K.
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Old 03-28-2008, 04:10 AM   #39
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Dammit.

I had to walk into this thread.

I had to.

I was being all optimistic about the movie lately and then I come in here to once again have something shoved up in my face that tells me the movie isn't going to be that great. There's that damn fridge again... and now Indy is going to actually MEET an alien. Like, there really are live aliens in the movie?!!

Oh man. Maybe all that talk Lucas is spouting about fans being dissapointed isn't that far off the mark.

I WANT to like this movie. In my head, I just see the dumbest non-Indy type scenes and what would be the saddest part is if it makes Harrison look like a fool because it's so dumb. People want Indy to kick butt when he comes back, not look ridiculous hiding in a refrigator from atom bombs.

... oh well. May 22nd is going to be an interesting day none the less.
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Old 03-28-2008, 04:12 AM   #40
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I'd rather aliens not be in it (as I do prefer the religious connotations of the other movies to possible alien connotations of this one), but if they are, I'm prepared to reserve judgment until I see for myself.
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Old 03-28-2008, 04:13 AM   #41
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I'd rather aliens not be in it (as I do prefer the religious connotations of the other movies to possible alien connotations of this one), but if they are, I'm prepared to reserve judgment until I see for myself.

I'm trying to reserve judgement. It's juuuust soooo harrrrd. lol.
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Old 03-28-2008, 05:04 AM   #42
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why, you liked
1-glowing stones?
2-700 year old men and invisible walkways?
3-the power of god inside a briefcase?


I think we're closer to discovering aliens then any of the above three..so

whut u talking bout willis?

What this comes down to is real myth, folklore, and archeology. That’s the mortar that’s held together the trilogy. There is no factual basis behind ufology. Zero! Ancient astronaut theories are bogus. I’ve done my research. Plenty and I plan on plenty more! There is little to no credibility behind any claims that have been made by, for all intensive purposes, nutcases like that of Eric Von Daniken. So forgive me if I’m more inclined to base my opinion on reliable sources. You’re more then welcome to read your equivalent of the archeological Inquirer. That’s your prerogative.

Of course real myth is somewhat of an oxymoron, broken down it means the true belief in something that may or may not exist, but you get the point. The point being that the Ark and the Holy Grail are said to exist and carry magnificent abilities. That is factual. There‘s tons of documented history. Whether they actually do exist or not is entirely unknown, but the likelihood is far greater. That isn’t saying they carry those supposed supernatural powers, simply that they do exist in some way, shape, or form. Believing in historical alien interference is not more believable from a rational perspective. I’m not saying that the Ark actually shoot lightening, simply saying that the supposed Ark of the covenant isn’t altogether unbelievable, that is to say an Ark that resembled the description was worshiped and brought forth during battles, and we‘ve got evidence to support it. I’m at a loss as to why anyone would more so believe in something with far less evidence. In truth, with no proven evidence to begin with. I’m sorry, I want my Jones to have a basis in myth, folklore, and archeology…not some amazingly farfetched and improbable theory. This doesn’t strike me as archeology, it comes off more as a tabloid stupidity.

Finally, your horrible descriptions destroy almost any esteem your post would otherwise have. Firstly, an invisible walkway? Do you mean one of the challenges in Last Crusade? That was a force perspective, not invisible. The Ark a briefcase? Was that an attempt at humor?

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Aliens is exactly what I've been wanting to see in the film, so this has made my day. I'm hoping that the film does as rumored, and reveals that the power of the Ark, Sankara stones, and Holy Grail came from an alien species who originated the human race (who would therefore be the God that so many world religions have speculated on).

You really think that’s a good idea? No offence but I really have to say this. With all due respect, I praise the lord that you’re not a scriptwriter. You want Steven Spielberg, a predominantly Jewish man, creator of such acclaimed Jewish history films as Schindler’s List, to take the Ark of the Covenant, a prominent religious relic, worshiped by the Jewish community (not to mention other faiths), and erase all traces of a higher omnipotent power to make it basically an alien ray gun? Yah, that would go over well…

I can see the picketing already.

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Old 03-28-2008, 05:15 AM   #43
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You really think that’s a good idea? No offence but I really have to say this. With all due respect, I praise the lord that you’re not a scriptwriter. You want Steven Spielberg, a predominantly Jewish man, creator of such acclaimed Jewish history films as Schindler’s List, to take the Ark of the Covenant, a prominent religious relic, worshiped by the Jewish community, and erase all traces of a high power to make it basically an alien ray gun? Yah, that would go over well…

No. You misunderstood my post. What I mean is that I hope KOTCS reveals that yes there is a God, and that God is actually an alien race who put us here on this planet. And all of these artifacts Jones has discovered have these powers because of the advanced technologies of this God. Something along those lines anyway. So I'm not talking about "erasing" anything, but instead giving an explanation as to what/who God is and God's TRUE intentions (pun intended).

Everyone searches for a God at some point in their lives. Either such a thing really exists, or we simply want it to exist to keep ourselves from feeling alone in the universe. I think it would be cool if KOTCS revealed that the CE3K aliens created us as an experiment, and left us here to fend for ourselves, and that they check in on us from time to time to see how our evolution is going.

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Old 03-28-2008, 05:26 AM   #44
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No. You misunderstood my post. What I mean is that I hope KOTCS reveals that yes there is a God, and that God is actually an alien race who put us here on this planet. And all of these artifacts Jones has discovered have these powers because of the advanced technologies of this God. Something along those lines anyway. So I'm not talking about "erasing" anything, but instead giving an explanation as to what/who God is and God's TRUE intentions (pun intended).

No, I understood your claims just fine the first time around. You’ve very clearly misunderstood what I’ve said…somehow. How on Earth, pardon the ironic expression, is Alien technology in any way divine? It’s not! It’s technology. By explaining that that the Ark is of alien origin you’ve subsequently erased it’s divine or supernatural qualities. I’m sorry, it’s a terrible move and many will agree with me. You don't happen to be a fan of L. Ron Hubbard...do you?
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Old 03-28-2008, 06:13 AM   #45
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Whats everyones problem with the fridge? I think its a great idea. Were not talking about any old fridge, but a heavy **** off 1950s lead one. The scene screams resourceful, bad-ass Indy to me. As for Indy meeting Aliens, it's all in the execution. If any one of us had heard tidbits about Temple of Doom or Last Crusade before we had actually seen the movie we'd also think that they sounded crap too. "Indy takes the leap of faith and is saved by an invisible bridge" sounds WORSE on paper than "Indy climbs into a lead fridge to protect himself from the radioactive blast of a nuclear bomb." George Lucas is right- the fans are going to hate this no matter what.
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Old 03-28-2008, 08:05 AM   #46
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What this comes down to is real myth, folklore, and archeology. Thatís the mortar thatís held together the trilogy. There is no factual basis behind ufology. Zero! Ancient astronaut theories are bogus. Iíve done my research. Plenty and I plan on plenty more! There is little to no credibility behind any claims that have been made by, for all intensive purposes, nutcases like that of Eric Von Daniken. So forgive me if Iím more inclined to base my opinion on reliable sources. Youíre more then welcome to read your equivalent of the archeological Inquirer. Thatís your prerogative.

Of course real myth is somewhat of an oxymoron, broken down it means the true belief in something that may or may not exist, but you get the point. The point being that the Ark and the Holy Grail are said to exist and carry magnificent abilities. That is factual. ThereĎs tons of documented history. Whether they actually do exist or not is entirely unknown, but the likelihood is far greater. That isnít saying they carry those supposed supernatural powers, simply that they do exist in some way, shape, or form. Believing in historical alien interference is not more believable from a rational perspective. Iím not saying that the Ark actually shoot lightening, simply saying that the supposed Ark of the covenant isnít altogether unbelievable, that is to say an Ark that resembled the description was worshiped and brought forth during battles, and weĎve got evidence to support it. Iím at a loss as to why anyone would more so believe in something with far less evidence. In truth, with no proven evidence to begin with. Iím sorry, I want my Jones to have a basis in myth, folklore, and archeologyÖnot some amazingly farfetched and improbable theory. This doesnít strike me as archeology, it comes off more as a tabloid stupidity.

Finally, your horrible descriptions destroy almost any esteem your post would otherwise have. Firstly, an invisible walkway? Do you mean one of the challenges in Last Crusade? That was a force perspective, not invisible. The Ark a briefcase? Was that an attempt at humor?



You really think thatís a good idea? No offence but I really have to say this. With all due respect, I praise the lord that youíre not a scriptwriter. You want Steven Spielberg, a predominantly Jewish man, creator of such acclaimed Jewish history films as Schindlerís List, to take the Ark of the Covenant, a prominent religious relic, worshiped by the Jewish community (not to mention other faiths), and erase all traces of a higher omnipotent power to make it basically an alien ray gun? Yah, that would go over wellÖ

I can see the picketing already.

How do you explain the glowing stones? The heart ripping? The blood of Kali? Face it, Indiana Jones is heavily steeped in fiction, and so is religious lore. Historic myth is no more credible than new-age myth, in fact it's usually less credible.
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Old 03-28-2008, 08:39 AM   #47
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I think given what we've heard so far and seen from the Lego Akator Playset that it's more likely that the Skulls are put on the bodies in the Throneroom - or Council Of Brethren if you believe the Setlist posted a few days ago - and then come to "life"..probably just glow and then kill the russians

I don't think Indy will come face-to-face with an Alien in any other way

And I think the fridge sounds inspired - just the kind of thing Indy would do to escape at the last minute ..
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Old 03-28-2008, 10:00 AM   #48
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Didn't Lucas say this was going to be like a 1950s sci-fi B movie? Or did everyone forget?
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Old 03-28-2008, 10:02 AM   #49
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I love this!!
I am OK as long as they do not link the ark, sankara stones and grail to ET.
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Old 03-28-2008, 10:31 AM   #50
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From Fallout Protection: What to Know and Do About Nuclear Attack (U.S. Department of Defense, Office of Civil Defense, 1961):

"4. When improvising shelter, keep it small. Concentrate the shielding mass immediately around and above you to conserve construction time.

6. If caught in the open, try to get to some substantial structure, such as a large commercial or civic building, a tunnel, or cave. If none of these is readily available, look for a culvert, underpass, or ditch - anything that will get you below ground level - and improvise a shelter"


So obviously Indy is following the best nuclear protection procedures he can under less than optimum conditions. Granted, an atomic blast would most likely reduce the fridge (and Indy) to molten slag, but if it's a sturdy unit, maybe the worst he'd get would be a few third degree burns, an extra appendage, and a mild case of brain stem cancer.

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