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View Poll Results: What Indy jacket do you own?
Wested 32 56.14%
Todd's Costumes 11 19.30%
Steele and Jones 3 5.26%
Bill Kelso 0 0%
Other (post about it below) 11 19.30%
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Old 06-14-2016, 12:06 PM   #226
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Very nice distressing there Drones33. Good job. I did have a start at distressing my Last Crusade jacket, just the collar edges and pockets, but a very small amount, not really worth showing yet.

Great jacket Glenville86. Good to hear Wested's Horsehide comes with some drape out of the box.
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Old 06-15-2016, 01:28 PM   #227
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Was just doing some comparisons of my jackets. Can see the length difference (as it should be I think).

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Old 06-15-2016, 11:22 PM   #228
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I always order them a little longer. I do have a couple Wings Legend jackets that are shorter. Maybe because I am pretty tall, I feel weird wearing any jacket that sits slightly below the belt.
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Old 06-16-2016, 03:07 AM   #229
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Interesting to see them side by side, not only for the length but for collar size too. Apparently Wested's next blog entry will be a Raiders vs TOD comparison. Looking forward to that.
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:11 PM   #230
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So, whats the back length of your TOD?
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:30 PM   #231
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So, whats the back length of your TOD?

It's 25.5" (that's the length I ordered)

I think the ToD jacket on film hangs lower than the Raiders, (look at the scenes where he walks into the village, arrives at Pankot etc) so I deliberately made it longer so the the jacket would represent that. Obviously you've got to try and work it out for your own torso and there is a little shoulder overhang like the Hero Raiders to consider.




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Old 06-17-2016, 09:09 AM   #232
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Looks great. I'm very tempted to go for it and add one to the collection.
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Old 06-17-2016, 12:24 PM   #233
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Got my next to last Indy Jacket in today. A Hero in horsehide. Fits well as I ordered an inch shorter than normal in the sleeves at 26 inches and the max length of 26.5 inches. I missed the mark on my first Hero a couple years ago with the sleeve length and donated it to charity. Have one in goat but the horsehide is such a good leather IMO. One I had in SL and the goat stick out in the back but the horsehide being heavier makes the jacket hang well. I did have Wested shorten the straps as they are really long as a standard feature. The only thing that is not great for me is that it is very form fitting in the armpits but no flying squirrel. If you don't have big arms, should not be an issue at all. It is not too tight in the pits but would not have space to layer other than just any type of shirt.

My last jacket is coming from S&J sometime in a Raiders with a dark chocolate lighter cowhide.

Am moving next month and was kind of shocked at the number of Indy jackets I have acquired over the last couple of years (and hats/boots).
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Old 06-17-2016, 12:55 PM   #234
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Crap - forgot I have a Kelso in goat on order.......
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Old 06-18-2016, 09:49 AM   #235
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Got my next to last Indy Jacket in today

Next to last? Are there no more out there that you'd have or are you approaching a completed collection?
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Old 06-18-2016, 11:15 AM   #236
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Next to last? Are there no more out there that you'd have or are you approaching a completed collection?

On the jacket side, I have multiple jackets from G&B, Wested, S&J, US Wings and Kelso. Just about every hide available. Have around 25 Indy jackets.

Fedora - have Adventurebilt, Advintage, Garrison, Akubra, Stetson, Northwest Hats and a couple others. About 15 Indy Hats in total.

Boots: All the Alden one to include the Indy cordovan boots. More than one pair in a couple models. Also have some close enough boots as well.

A couple Indy shirts as well. I am well past a completed collection on all the clothing items........I was not really keeping track of it all until I started to go through my closets for our move next month.......
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Old 06-18-2016, 11:49 AM   #237
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I was planning to make my next jacket the Last Crusade Hero, but no sign of when Wested might release it. Toying with the idea of the Hero Raiders in a hide I don't have yet. Possibly cow, Novapelle, maybe Goat, if Goat then I'd have to manually distress it as I understand Goat is bulletproof, although it would have the required dark Raiders look. Any thoughts on this.
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Old 06-18-2016, 01:24 PM   #238
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For me the key thing about the Hero is the drape. Because it's so slouchy, hanging off the shoulders and low on the back of the neck, I think the leather needs both weight and suppleness.
Shrunken lamb is I suppose an obvious choice, and works well; very soft and comfortable. The colour is a little light for my taste, a bit ginger-biscuit-y.
I think Authentic Lamb would be ideal, but if it's a hide you don't have already then, as you know I'm a big fan of Novapelle. I'd be tempted to go for that. Really, almost as soft as lambskin but very heavy, so it drapes beautifully. Whether dark brown or copper, it's quite pale when it arrives, with a dry, dusty feel. But a good soaking and a healthy once-over with Pecards and it darkens right down. Very easy to weather too, if your that way inclined.
Unlike goat. Lovely looking, and a great colour, but as you say completely bulletproof. If Indy had been wearing a goatskin jacket in Crystal Skull, he wouldn't have needed the fridge when the bomb went off I reckon!
I had my otr goatskin Raiders for almost 9 years, looked pretty much the same the day I sold it as it did the day it arrived, other than the fact that it had gone sort of brittle and plastic-y looking. Great jacket, but I felt it had no character.
Let me know which one you go for

Speaking of decisions, I've run into a rather annoying issue with my new lambskin Raiders. As its softened and begun to conform to my shape, I noticed it was kind of lop-sided. Long story short, I measured the shoulders, and much to my irritation the left shoulder, from collar to sleeve, is 6" but the right is 7.5". I'd just given them a really nice review too!
It's the first time Wested has let me down, still irritating though. Gonna have to get in touch, see what they can do.

Moving house Glenville? That can be quite an adventure in itself. I ended up in hospital last time we moved house! ( long story)
Moving far?

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Old 06-18-2016, 01:33 PM   #239
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I'll keep you boys posted how I get on with my oddly shaped Raiders.

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Old 06-18-2016, 01:55 PM   #240
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On the jacket side, I have multiple jackets from G&B, Wested, S&J, US Wings and Kelso. Just about every hide available. Have around 25 Indy jackets.

Fedora - have Adventurebilt, Advintage, Garrison, Akubra, Stetson, Northwest Hats and a couple others. About 15 Indy Hats in total.

Boots: All the Alden one to include the Indy cordovan boots. More than one pair in a couple models. Also have some close enough boots as well.

A couple Indy shirts as well. I am well past a completed collection on all the clothing items........I was not really keeping track of it all until I started to go through my closets for our move next month.......

You should open up an Indy museum!
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Old 06-18-2016, 04:30 PM   #241
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Moving locally here in Germany as my landlord sold the house I have rented for 10-years. The bummer is I only have less than a year before I am going to be stationed back in the States. Money being spent to move and deposits I really should not be paying.....

I have a Hero in goat. I gave it a wash to age it slightly and get some wrinkles in the sleeves. Did the same with my G&B.

Still not sure I like the dark novapelle. I used pecards on it but still has a very gray undertone.

No museum for me. I am retired Army and working civil service for DIA. They pay my rent while overseas and I have been buying up everything I have wanted while here and maxing out my 401k. When I go back to the States, I will not have the expendable income to buy much hobby stuff.
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Old 06-19-2016, 01:50 AM   #242
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Let me know which one you go for


I will. Still mulling over various options. Authentic would be my preference for a Hero, if I didn't already have an authentic custom Raiders, Temple and LC in that skin. On the other hand part of me feels I would regret having the hero in anything else (apart from striated lamb, which isn't available from wested). Shrunken Lamb is to variable for my taste, you might get a one and good colour but it's not guaranteed. My honest view is that the Authentic brown, well worn and aged would provide a more screen accurate look, heck even brand new it still looks more accurate to me for some reason. I may hold off for a while though and get a Custom Last Crusade instead, with a few hero mods, as Wested seem to be slacking on releasing what seems to me would be the second greatest asset to them after the Hero Raiders.

That's annoying about the shoulder measurement issue, hope that gets sorted.
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Old 06-19-2016, 02:11 AM   #243
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I'll keep you boys posted how I get on with my oddly shaped Raiders.

That would really upset me. I really don't think Wested has any quality control. They get the jackets and mail them out. From what I have read, their jackets are made in a different location than their business. I had a custom long jacket made with a 1/2 belt and the measurements were all off. Decided never to order a custom jacket from them.

I have had a couple jackets where I ordered a hidden snap on the bottom and they shipped it with just the snap part on one side.........Wonder how hard it would be to remove the snap part off the jackets???
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Old 06-21-2016, 11:27 AM   #244
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That would really upset me.

It did, to the point where I was going to simply stick it on ebay. But then had second thoughts. It really is a beautiful jacket, shoulder size issue aside, and so Ive decided its a keeper. Ive contacted Wested but not heard anything yet. But the more I wear it the better it gets, and Wife insists that the offset shoulder is not noticable, and that I`m only so aware of it
because I`m basically obsessed with the Indy jacket. Which is a fair point. And it does look great, its breaking-in really nicely after only a few weeks wear.

You can see how the right shoulder slightly overhangs the end of its coat hanger its on. But I love the way the sleeves and pocket flaps are beginning to crease and wrinkle.

If I need to have it altered there`s a specialist leather repair shop in Liverpool called Maughm`s, I may ask them to have a look.

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I will. Still mulling over various options. Authentic would be my preference for a Hero, if I didn't already have an authentic custom Raiders, Temple and LC in that skin. On the other hand part of me feels I would regret having the hero in anything else
Very wise Major, I think its best to really research the Hero, not only for which leather to chose but there`s also the whole sizing issue to consider. The first one I bought was huge, even though it was technically in my size. There`s a Raven member, DJD I think, who`s also on Fortune & Glory. He gives some very handy tips where Hero sizing is concerned. Worth a look.

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Moving locally here in Germany as my landlord sold the house I have rented for 10-years. The bummer is I only have less than a year before I am going to be stationed back in the States. Money being spent to move and deposits I really should not be paying.....
That is a a bummer indeed...
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Old 06-21-2016, 03:50 PM   #245
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It is starting to look nicely broken in, imagine what a few more weeks/months of wear will do. It will start to look completely frazzled and more film-like.

Can't say I particularly notice the shoulder issue from those pictures, you could always try applying water to the shoulder every so often to see if you can shrink it a bit.
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Old 06-23-2016, 03:23 AM   #246
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Still undecided about what to get next, either the hero or another custom ToD. If I went for the ToD, I'd maybe get an extra inside pocket, pick a skin like heavy duty pre-distressed lamb, (not screen accurate for any IJ jacket) but a very nice cool looking skin. Somebody on fortune and glory had a hero made in that skin and loved it. That would be just a practical non SA jacket and to have a different looking jacket in the collection. However still consideirng a Hero Raiders, and if I went for that I'd probably want to get a more screen accurate (in colour) skin, because I still don#t have a Hero yet. *sigh* decisions.
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Old 06-23-2016, 11:20 AM   #247
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Ah the agony of choice
It's a tough call isn't it. I know what u mean though. I was kind of intending my new Raiders to be my last, certainly for a while. But recently I've been doing a lot of research into the TOD, and am keen to add one to the collection.
I also really fancy trying dark brown novapelle. Am thinking maybe a Hero. The scenes in Raiders just after Indy and Marion escape from the Well of Souls his jacket is covered in dust. Looks really grey. The db nov could work quite well.
Dunno. We'll see.
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Old 06-23-2016, 01:11 PM   #248
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I think Dark Novapelle would be a good choice for thicker Raiders or ToD jacket. Considering it myself as a winter skin choice. Even considered it for my next choice, but I'm unsure if that make it less of a casual and more of an outdoors jacket? Less familiar with the cow offerings. The good thing about the authentic lamb is you can wear it indoors. I wear it instead of a jumper if it gets cold, may as well wear it as much as possible to keep breaking it in. When there was a powercut a couple of months ago I slept in my ToD jacket, but I needed to because there was no heat and the house was freezing.
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The Dark Novapelle is certainly very grey when you get it. Some pecards will darken it some but it still has a serious grey undertone to it. Positive side is it should get an aged look pretty soon with normal wear. Very soft skin.
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Old 06-26-2016, 08:04 AM   #250
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Check this out gentlemen. Ive been looking into the TOD jacket, probably my next one, and whilst doing some research into which leather I`d go for I came across this photo on Google Images; its a Hero that someone over at IndyLounge has had Wested make for him in Nubuck.
Mighty impressive I think and would be great for a TOD or even a Hero.

Clearly its not something that Wested offers as standard, but Ive emailed them and asked if they would be willing to make either a TOD or a Hero for me in Nubuck.
I`ll let you boys know what they say.
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