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Old 01-13-2008, 02:43 AM   #1
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Who would win in a fight between...

That BIG German dude who was fighting Indy and got cut up in the airplain Propeller (Raiders) versus the BIG India dude who was fighting Indy and got smooshed in the rock crusher (Temple of Doom)? (I know the same actor plays both characters)

If they fought without weapons, just Man Vs. Man in a wide open area, who wins?
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:49 AM   #2
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Tricky. The German didn't really use any weapons, while the Thuggee hit Indy with a thing or two, as I recall, and certainly decided picking him up and putting him in a cart made sense, but his amount of brute force seemed to be so much more. I'm going with the Thuggee, for the win.
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:53 AM   #3
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The big German looked like he could hit so hard. Way harder than Indy, for sure. I wonder how his punches would do against the big Thuggee? And vis versa. Both dudes could take a MASSIVE beating. It would be a good one.
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:16 AM   #4
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The German guy for sure , think he could take more hits and still have the strenght for punches.
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:29 AM   #5
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Who would win if Pat Roach fought Pat Roach? Hmm...
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:57 AM   #6
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In Pat Roach vs. Pat Roach, I pick Pat Roach.

But seriously, the German mechanic wins because he doesn't need a snarkly little Majarajah to voodoo-stab his opponent in the back to gain the upper hand. The Thuggee guard lost even with an unfair advantage over Indy.
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:58 AM   #7
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Well, they both obviously had the brains of a turnip but in sheer muscle power I would have to go with the blood drinker.
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Old 01-13-2008, 01:38 PM   #8
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It would have to be a draw.
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Old 01-13-2008, 01:44 PM   #9
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The question is...who is the most intimidating to make us nervous during battle...A)Pat Roach without a shirt on or B) Pat Roach with a large Beard and lots of make-up. I pick "A" for the simple point of intimidation.
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:12 PM   #10
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Well, obviously Pat Roach plays them both. But which character would beat the other?

It be fun to watch them hit eachother. Like two tanks.
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:12 PM   #11
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I'm going to be lame and call it a draw... I think, after an hour of beating each other up, they'd shake hands, laugh, and go out for a drink.
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Old 01-13-2008, 03:15 PM   #12
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I'll have to go with the German. I think he'd be too fast for the Thuggee. On the other hand, if the Thuggee bear huged the German... IDK.
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Old 01-13-2008, 03:16 PM   #13
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The German Mechanic, without a doubt!
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Old 01-13-2008, 03:18 PM   #14
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I dont think it would be so diffinative.
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Old 01-13-2008, 03:41 PM   #15
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The German mechanic would kill the Thuggee slavemaster.

Indy gets the upper hand against the Thuggee four times, but does NOTHING to the mechanic.
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Old 01-13-2008, 03:43 PM   #16
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Tricky. The German didn't really use any weapons, while the Thuggee hit Indy with a thing or two, as I recall, and certainly decided picking him up and putting him in a cart made sense, but his amount of brute force seemed to be so much more. I'm going with the Thuggee, for the win.

But he has to resort to using weapons on the conveyer belt and the Maharajah's assistance.

The mechanic just uses his fists, and uses about 50% of his full strength.
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Old 01-13-2008, 03:47 PM   #17
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True, true. Indy used weapons against the Thuggee.

Thuggee vs Mechanic - No weapons. Bearhug vs Mega punch.

100% Durability vs 100% Duribility
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:42 PM   #18
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The mechanic just [...] uses about 50% of his full strength.

How do you figure?
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Old 01-14-2008, 11:02 AM   #19
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How do you figure?

Watch the fight scene: http://youtube.com/watch?v=teDYmbgyB3Q&feature=related

The first punch he barely touches him.

Most of the subsequent punches he doesn't retract his arm that much before punching, and doesn't even put much effort into his punches. Look at the way he punches Indy the last three times before Indy launches at him full force: he's just playing with him like a toy.

The only time he puts much effort in is after Indy bites him and punches him four times at the end, but only because he's angry, not because he needs to.

The whole point of the fight is that the mechanic only uses his fists to demoralize Indy by showing him thats all he needs to do.

Indy, on the other hand, swings with all his might.

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Old 01-14-2008, 11:08 AM   #20
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I often wondered how long the mechanic would have kept fighting Indy. Until he had beaten him to death? Or would he have just gotten fed up and handed him over to the Nazis?
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Old 01-14-2008, 12:25 PM   #21
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Given how the mechanic sees Indy and challenges him to fight instead of turning him in right away, I've always figured the mechanic was in it to brawl, almost for sport. So I'd guess he would have beaten Indy down in a fight, then turned him over to soldiers once Indy was out for the count.
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Old 01-14-2008, 12:32 PM   #22
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Given how the mechanic sees Indy and challenges him to fight instead of turning him in right away, I've always figured the mechanic was in it to brawl, almost for sport. So I'd guess he would have beaten Indy down in a fight, then turned him over to soldiers once Indy was out for the count.

Oh I knew he was just fighting him for sport. What I meant was do you think he'd have gotten bored eventually and just turned him in, or kept on going until Indy was dead?
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Old 01-14-2008, 12:34 PM   #23
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Like I said, he would have probably knocked Indy out and once the fun of the fight was over, he'd let the soliders lock Indy up.
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:55 PM   #24
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Given how the mechanic sees Indy and challenges him to fight instead of turning him in right away, I've always figured the mechanic was in it to brawl, almost for sport.
Yes, and it's not like the scriptwriters might just have written the script that way simply because it was appropriate for the flow of the movie... Besides, you're wrong, because the mechanic was really the shapeshifted mother in law of the blob and she would have devoured Indy if she hadn't been sliced into tiny red jellyfish by the propeller.
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Yes, and it's not like the scriptwriters might just have written the script that way simply because it was appropriate for the flow of the movie... Besides, you're wrong, because the mechanic was really the shapeshifted mother in law of the blob and she would have devoured Indy if she hadn't been sliced into tiny red jellyfish by the propeller.

Yeah, but all the characters are written, and there's more than one way to have a movie flow. The characters are as they are portrayed. It's reasonable enough to take about motivations.
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