General Indy 5 Thread - rumors and possibilities

Honestly...will there be another Indy film in the next decade?


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Darth Vile

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Stoo said:
Creating a film in a style that had NOT been popular in decades can hardly be considered as a gimmick. Cashing in something CURRENTLY popular is.
Just like the pairing up of the then two most popular/shiny movie making names in Hollywood to make Raiders, or like casting one of the bright young things from the then biggest movie ever made i.e. Star Wars, as your leading man. ;)

Point being, one man's gimmick is another man's artistic choice. Sure, 3D seems to be flavour of the month, and as I've already mentioned, 3D doesn't do it for me... but clearly some very high profile movie makers seem to believe it's a legitimate technique for expanding/evolving the cinematic experience. Assuming that the industry interest is genuine, then 3D's employment to broaden the experience, and maintain/grow the consumers interest in cinema (which is the bottom line) is just as valid (if not as cinematically significant) as the advancement of sound, colour, stereo, digital etc. etc.
 

Montana Smith

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Crack that whip said:
You'd like to think Indy would murder his own son? Why? I'm also not clear on why Indy would kill someone who looked like him, BTW, whether he knows it's his son or not...

I really don't know what's so horribly objectionable about Mutt that viewers want to see him offed for no reason other than to see him offed, but if it's simply a matter of not wanting to see the series shift over to him, I don't think that's an issue, and at any rate it'd be served by simply not having the character in the movie, or simply acknowledged in a cameo or referred to in a line of dialogue here or there. I don't know why people assume just because Indy has a family he's going to drag them around everywhere on all his adventures...

It was a tongue in cheek statement - of course Indy wouldn't murder his own son!

Mutt is just such an unappealing character, and to think that he sees himself in his dad's hat is just unthinkable. If Lucas was to allow the series to continue with Mutt in the lead as the son of Indiana Jones, that would degrade the name of Indiana Jones. What makes the four films great is that we follow a great character from the 1930s. You can't re-invent that magic by having his son continue the story.

As Rocket said, killing a character isn't a surefire end, as characters can return from the dead in films and books. But, if he died it would make them go through hoops to get him back again.
 

Violet

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Crack that whip said:
It's quite possible Lucas no longer considers them canon, but nothing so far (either in the reconfiguration of the show as "The Adventures of...," the fourth movie, or the recent books, comics and games) actually refutes them yet. Moreover, while the bookend scenes have been taken out, there's still a shot of old Indy's hands closing his diary (originally shot for the Chronicles main title sequence, I believe) that's included at the end of some of the "Adventures" re-edits, which to me suggests that Indy does indeed still live to his 90s.

Arguably, the fact that Indy has a son and not a DAUGHTER in KOTCS, refutes the Old Indy bookends. I once posted a theory on a thread here (before KOTCS was even announced!) that the reason why George had gotten rid of the bookends as well as supposedly not working for the States audience, also because there was something in Indy 4 that disagreed with Old Indy. There was no son and furthermore, Marion isn't likely to bear a daughter at her age (if the Ultimate Guide's Marion birthdate is anything to go by). The only ways the daughter would be possible is either another marriage after Marion (with a much younger woman) or an adoption. In any case, a son is never mentioned and seen in the bookends, unless you want to believe that the other soccermom (that's Indy's granddaughter) is Mutt's daughter.


And as for the whole shooting sequels back-to-back. I think that is more harming than good. Pirate 2 & 3 were shot back to back, and I personally felt the quality had drained with 3 (though I think with time passing and proper development 4 I hope will be better), as was Matrix 2 & 3 (again, I thought there was definitely a quality drop). Plus with the whole connecting between the sequels, they just seem to be then, just one very long sequel, instead of being a little bit more stand alone and yeah, better developed.
 

Montana Smith

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Violet Indy said:
Arguably, the fact that Indy has a son and not a DAUGHTER in KOTCS, refutes the Old Indy bookends. I once posted a theory on a thread here (before KOTCS was even announced!) that the reason why George had gotten rid of the bookends as well as supposedly not working for the States audience, also because there was something in Indy 4 that disagreed with Old Indy. There was no son and furthermore, Marion isn't likely to bear a daughter at her age (if the Ultimate Guide's Marion birthdate is anything to go by). The only ways the daughter would be possible is either another marriage after Marion (with a much younger woman) or an adoption. In any case, a son is never mentioned and seen in the bookends, unless you want to believe that the other soccermom (that's Indy's granddaughter) is Mutt's daughter.

With Indy's reputation it's quite possible that he's left a trail of unknown sons and daughters all over the world. He is after all, the natural ancestor of Lara Croft.
 

Montana Smith

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Violet Indy said:
And as for the whole shooting sequels back-to-back. I think that is more harming than good. Pirate 2 & 3 were shot back to back, and I personally felt the quality had drained with 3 (though I think with time passing and proper development 4 I hope will be better), as was Matrix 2 & 3 (again, I thought there was definitely a quality drop). Plus with the whole connecting between the sequels, they just seem to be then, just one very long sequel, instead of being a little bit more stand alone and yeah, better developed.

One long sequel is what I had in mind - a long story split into two parts, like Kill Bill Vol.1 and Vol.2, or Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace. It would be a way of getting the most out of Harrison as Indy before, horror of horrors, he has to pass on the hat (if Lucas actually wants to do that).
 

EddyW

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I would rather have 2 different stories filmed back to back. I'm not too crazy about films that split up a story like Pirates of the Caribbean or Lord of the Rings, you can't watch one of them seperately, or you have to sacrifice 4+ hours of your evening, which I don't want to do. Besides, those films usually tend to go way too big in terms of scope (but never seem to be able to hold my attention). Plus, I like the different tones that every Indy film seems to have, wouldn't really like 2 films be a continuation of the same tone/ story.
 

Lego Indy

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Montana Smith said:
One long sequel is what I had in mind - a long story split into two parts, like Kill Bill Vol.1 and Vol.2, or Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace. It would be a way of getting the most out of Harrison as Indy before, horror of horrors, he has to pass on the hat (if Lucas actually wants to do that).


YES. That is exactly what I had in mind. (y)
 

Montana Smith

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indyrcks said:
I don't know what is taking them making Indy 5 :confused:

All good things come to those who...

Lego Indy said:
YES. That is exactly what I had in mind.

I see it as the best way of getting maximum mileage out of Harrison before he orders his wheelchair. :)
 
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lao che & sons

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Stoo said:
Lao, I was asking about Indy *7*, not 5 or 6!:p:whip:

ok,:eek: how about my Indy 6 Idea for Indy 7. But seriously. Indy 7? I'm hoping for 6 and then pass it on to a completely different crew. Some new director, a great fresh writer, and an all new Indy. of course do it about 20 years after the Indy 6. The new crew does 6 then they pass it on. Does THAT suit you?:whip: :whip:
 

Texas

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We better get some significant Indy 5 news by this summer or we can go ahead and say goodbye to the possibility of a new Indy film.

By the way, I've read that George Lucas is completely revamping "Red Tails" which is a World War 2 flick about the Tuskeegee airmen. I hope this doesn't impact the development of Indy 5 considering this revamping will now occupy much of Lucas' time.

http://screenrant.com/george-lucas-red-tails-in-trouble-niall-46038/
 

Major West

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Exploring the relationships

I just saw Ford interviewed on Live on Studio Five, and he said in the next Indy film it would be great to explore the relationships between Indy, Marion and Mutt (although he referred to them by their actor names).
 

kevster

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Indy 5 news

Apparently Harrison was on BBC radio 1 today, talking about his latest movie.
And of course they talked about Indy 5:



Harrison Ford says an idea for the storyline for the fifth Indiana Jones film has been agreed.

The Hollywood actor says he, director Steven Spielberg and writer George Lucas have come up with a rough outline for the follow-up to Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

He said: "Steven [Spielberg] and George [Lucas] and I are sort of agreed on a germ of an idea and we're seeing what comes of it."

Harrison Ford, 67, says despite coming up with an idea for the movie, people won't see the finished product for some time.

"The process works like this," he said. "We come to some basic agreement and then George goes away for a long time and works on it.

"Then Steven and I get it in some form, some embryonic form.

"Then if we like it we start working with George on it and at some point down the line it's ready and we do it."



Link article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/entertainment/newsid_10050000/newsid_10058500/10058528.stm
 

kevster

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^^ Basically it's still the same news and George is STILL working on the script...sigh... This part made me laugh:

"We come to some basic agreement and then George goes away for a long time and works on it"

wonder how long it takes this time ;)
 

Indy's brother

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kevster said:
"Steven [Spielberg] and George [Lucas] and I are sort of agreed on a germ of an idea and we're seeing what comes of it."

I really wish one of those three would just come out and say wether or not they are going to make a serious effort to make another movie. I kind of feel bad for HF, it always sounds like he would like to say something, but he's not allowed to. In the meantime he still has to field these questions if he wants to talk to anyone about anything.
 

Texas

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Its great to see some good news from Harrison. Now lets hope they get the ball rolling and start hiring someone to write a script.

I'm still surprised nothing has been leaked from Lucasfilm that could give us some kind of idea of what MacGuffin Lucas is thinking of pursuing. Lucasfilm has an army of researchers that I'm sure have worked their butts off in doing research for George's Indy 5 idea.
 

Montana Smith

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A "germ of an idea" is a very early stage, which implies that Indy V is a long way off.

By answering interviewers' questions this way they're just keeping their options open, neither denying nor confirming that it'll happen.

Whenever I've seen Harrison interviewed he always does look uncomfortable. He often looks bored and disinterested, and as his voice drones on you get to think that he's either going to fall asleep, or send the interviewer to sleep. Harrison is more like Henry Jones Sr., and the giddiest he gets is admitting that there is the "germ of an idea".

I'm also fearing that when we see Indy V, we'll wish they hadn't bothered. It might be one movie too many. (And, of course, there are those that feel that KOTCS was that one movie too many).
 
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