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Old 08-06-2008, 05:22 PM   #51
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If that happens, hopefully the moderators will delete the thread or something. I like all these free things but I don't want any of them to go beyond the boundaries of law.

I was thinking the same thing. However, since as of the moment these haven't been reprinted, it could be argued they're hard to come by due to their age (its been over 20 years since they were released). I'm not sure of the exact legal issues surrounding such a thing, though. However, I know most of the serious Indy fans would probably buy Omnibus editions if they ever were to happen.

In other words, I don't think this one thread will affect sales of a possible Omnibus collection of these issues.
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Old 08-06-2008, 06:20 PM   #52
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I remember one of the editors mentioned on the boards last year that they had a hard time finding the original film to the Indy Marvel Comics for reprints. That they might have to resort to cutting up actual comic issues for scanning/remastering.


That might be the post I was thinking of.
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Old 08-06-2008, 08:36 PM   #53
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I really, really, really wish they would make an Omnibus for the Further Adventures. I have three issues of them at home, and I enjoy them way more than the DH 90's issues. They're very hard to get and I really want to read all them.... oh, alright, I just want the "Search for Abner", the second issue to the Idol story arc and the "Africa Screams" issues. I couldn't care less for the ones without Marion in it.
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Old 08-06-2008, 08:53 PM   #54
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I really, really, really wish they would make an Omnibus for the Further Adventures. I have three issues of them at home, and I enjoy them way more than the DH 90's issues. They're very hard to get and I really want to read all them.... oh, alright, I just want the "Search for Abner", the second issue to the Idol story arc and the "Africa Screams" issues. I couldn't care less for the ones without Marion in it.

They really should get the Omnibus editions out for these issues.

However, the original issues aren't really that hard to come by. I snagged the full run (all 34 issues in GREAT shape) off Ebay around the time Crystal Skull was released for less than $50. Works out to barely a dollar an issue. I know I might've gotten lucky, but the Marvel issues aren't too hard to find.

Especially in regards to Dark Horse needing to find them to reprint/recolor/etc the Marvel issues. A company that size shouldn't really be facing much of a challenge in finding 34 issues for reprint purposes.

I think in Dark Horse's case its more an issue of getting the rights to reprint material originally printed by Marvel. I'm not sure of the situation with the copyright for those issues: is it still owned by Marvel, or has it gone back to Lucasfilm, do Dark Horse own rights to ALL Indy comics in the US or world, etc. Its confusing as hell.

But yeah, I don't really think the issue with Dark Horse not getting around to reprinting the Marvel Indy comics really has anything to do with finding originals to make those reprints from.

Hell, I'll give them mine if it'd help get the Omnibus editions done. I'd prefer a nicely remastered, Omnibus edition (or two) over the individual issues.

And of course, if you just want to read them, you could always torrent them. I know there are many collections of Indy comics torrents around the web (including the DH comics, the Marvel movie adaptations and the Further Adventures). Of course, I only recommend that if you own the actual issues (wink, wink).
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Old 08-06-2008, 11:09 PM   #55
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They really should get the Omnibus editions out for these issues.

However, the original issues aren't really that hard to come by. I snagged the full run (all 34 issues in GREAT shape) off Ebay around the time Crystal Skull was released for less than $50. Works out to barely a dollar an issue. I know I might've gotten lucky, but the Marvel issues aren't too hard to find.

Especially in regards to Dark Horse needing to find them to reprint/recolor/etc the Marvel issues. A company that size shouldn't really be facing much of a challenge in finding 34 issues for reprint purposes.

I think in Dark Horse's case its more an issue of getting the rights to reprint material originally printed by Marvel. I'm not sure of the situation with the copyright for those issues: is it still owned by Marvel, or has it gone back to Lucasfilm, do Dark Horse own rights to ALL Indy comics in the US or world, etc. Its confusing as hell.

But yeah, I don't really think the issue with Dark Horse not getting around to reprinting the Marvel Indy comics really has anything to do with finding originals to make those reprints from.

Hell, I'll give them mine if it'd help get the Omnibus editions done. I'd prefer a nicely remastered, Omnibus edition (or two) over the individual issues.

And of course, if you just want to read them, you could always torrent them. I know there are many collections of Indy comics torrents around the web (including the DH comics, the Marvel movie adaptations and the Further Adventures). Of course, I only recommend that if you own the actual issues (wink, wink).

Remember what part of the world I live in. They're hard to come by down here and I am unable to order from the web and being a uni student, trying to save cash. All those factors combined equals hard to get. Supanova's the only time of year I've got half a chance and didn't manage to find any I didn't own, but on the bright side got cards and a Michael Byrne autograph card.

I never knew about the comic torrents though. I never even knew they existed. I have found the LC movie adaptions in a comic store, however I can't find #4, which is really annoying. I do personally prefer owning them, it's a lot cheaper in the long run! And I'm worried that if I track them down now and buy them, that DH will publish the volume and I'm not a fussy collector, but it would peeve me hugely!
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Old 08-06-2008, 11:37 PM   #56
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I think in Dark Horse's case its more an issue of getting the rights to reprint material originally printed by Marvel. I'm not sure of the situation with the copyright for those issues: is it still owned by Marvel, or has it gone back to Lucasfilm, do Dark Horse own rights to ALL Indy comics in the US or world, etc. Its confusing as hell.
Dark Horse has the rights to reprint all the Marvel Indy comics. I don't think they're aware of French Editions though. Maybe new members posting over in the DH forums to remind (demand!) them about those issues would help.....

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Hell, I'll give them mine if it'd help get the Omnibus editions done. I'd prefer a nicely remastered, Omnibus edition (or two) over the individual issues.

Sometimes they'll ask the fans to help out for really good copies in case they can't find the original film. Earlier this year they needed to reprint a rare Star Wars story that was printed in an old UK only Weekly and one fan fedex'd them a copy and they worked off that.

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Old 08-07-2008, 05:44 AM   #57
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issue 4 is ready------- wow over 300 views i hope the rest of you are enjoying this --- some great stories are in these comics

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Old 08-07-2008, 06:34 AM   #58
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O.K. This issue has always made me laugh, personally, because of this:

"That was quick thinking, Indy!"

"Thanks, but Montreal should get the credit. I worked at dig there a few years back.
A subway construction crew uncovered a Seneca indian burial ground. I learned a lot
about Senecas...and subways!"

I LOVED the reference but digging for the subway (metro) only started in the early '60s! Too funny!
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Old 08-07-2008, 07:45 AM   #59
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Thanks again, indyclone25, for going out of your way to post these issues. The third and fourth issues were also great, and the artwork is exceptional.

To address a concern that others have had, I don't think this thread will affect any potential DH Omnibus sales if they decided to reprint these Marvel issues.
If anything, I suspect seeing these will actually make fans want the issues even more. Speaking for myself, after reading these I'm even more interested in seeing a collection of these Marvel issues re-colored and reprinted on high quality paper.

Since the series ran for only 34 issues (no Annuals), DH could produce only
2-3 Omnibuses for the whole series.
The only concern I have about a potential Omnibus collection is that Dark Horse is notorious for not reprinting all of the covers in these types of collections. We'll see.
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Old 05-07-2009, 12:08 AM   #60
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The Further Adventures of Indiana Jones comics

I was just wondering,does anyone have the original copies of The Further Adventures of Indiana Jones comics?If so,I was wondering how many of them Marion was in and what was the last year they were together.I'm guessing it would have the year in comic books themselves.
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Old 05-07-2009, 04:43 AM   #61
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If you take a look at the Indy Lit section, I'm sure you'll be able to find some stuff on the Further Adventures, however I'll answer the question the best I can as I myself have asked the question a while back and Stoo did answer it.

In Volume 1 of the Further Adventures (which covers Raiders adaption and 1-12 issues) Marion's in Raiders (all 4 issues), #6 (which is about the Raven's Nest nightclub), #7, #8 (my personal favourites), #9, #10, #11 and #12. So that's six issues of Marion appearances from June 1982 - Dec 1982. It is implied in most of these that the adventures take place in late 1936, though with the state of the timeline at the moment, I'm more likely to lean towards 1937. The comics don't always state the year in the intro.

As far as I can remember she also appears in #16 and #17 (whichever are the Search for Abner issues, which I am looking very forward to in Volume 2) and there's more I'm sure before her last appearances in #22 and #23 (which I look very forward to seeing in the Omnibuses). The later ones would have to be taking place in 1937 and would work within the years discussed in the Ultimate Guide and in KOTCS.

You can also look at TheRaider.Net's Lit section. They cover all the synopses and covers for the Further Adventure and Dark Horse comics.
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Annie, I have just about all the Further Adventure comics with Marion in it posted at the Indy and Marion site/group, if you want the link just let me know
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Old 05-07-2009, 02:30 PM   #64
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If you take a look at the Indy Lit section, I'm sure you'll be able to find some stuff on the Further Adventures, however I'll answer the question the best I can as I myself have asked the question a while back and Stoo did answer it.

In Volume 1 of the Further Adventures (which covers Raiders adaption and 1-12 issues) Marion's in Raiders (all 4 issues), #6 (which is about the Raven's Nest nightclub), #7, #8 (my personal favourites), #9, #10, #11 and #12. So that's six issues of Marion appearances from June 1982 - Dec 1982. It is implied in most of these that the adventures take place in late 1936, though with the state of the timeline at the moment, I'm more likely to lean towards 1937. The comics don't always state the year in the intro.

As far as I can remember she also appears in #16 and #17 (whichever are the Search for Abner issues, which I am looking very forward to in Volume 2) and there's more I'm sure before her last appearances in #22 and #23 (which I look very forward to seeing in the Omnibuses). The later ones would have to be taking place in 1937 and would work within the years discussed in the Ultimate Guide and in KOTCS.

You can also look at TheRaider.Net's Lit section. They cover all the synopses and covers for the Further Adventure and Dark Horse comics.


Thank you so much for your help. It's much appreciated.
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I was just wondering,does anyone have the original copies of The Further Adventures of Indiana Jones comics?If so,I was wondering how many of them Marion was in and what was the last year they were together.I'm guessing it would have the year in comic books themselves.
All of Marion's Marvel appreances take place in 1936. She's in #6-12, #14, #16, #17-18, #20-23 and 25. (She is also mentioned in #16.) You should buy the Ominbus edition, Annie. It's well worth it!

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In Volume 1 of the Further Adventures (which covers Raiders adaption and 1-12 issues) Marion's in Raiders (all 4 issues), #6 (which is about the Raven's Nest nightclub), #7, #8 (my personal favourites), #9, #10, #11 and #12. So that's six issues of Marion appearances from June 1982 - Dec 1982. It is implied in most of these that the adventures take place in late 1936, though with the state of the timeline at the moment, I'm more likely to lean towards 1937. The comics don't always state the year in the intro.

As far as I can remember she also appears in #16 and #17 (whichever are the Search for Abner issues, which I am looking very forward to in Volume 2) and there's more I'm sure before her last appearances in #22 and #23 (which I look very forward to seeing in the Omnibuses). The later ones would have to be taking place in 1937 and would work within the years discussed in the Ultimate Guide and in KOTCS.
...Just had another look and I made a mistake about #23 being her last. She's also in #25 (but not with Indy, she is pissed at him). After that chapter, it's "Adios, muchachos!" for Marion! As for the dates, only the last few (#31-34) are in 1937. #30 says "circa 1936". Hope that helps.
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Annie, I have just about all the Further Adventure comics with Marion in it posted at the Indy and Marion site/group, if you want the link just let me know


Yes please.
And thanks so much for your help.
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All of Marion's Marvel appreances take place in 1936. She's in #6-12, #14, #16, #17-18, #20-23 and 25. (She is also mentioned in #16.) You should buy the Ominbus edition, Annie. It's well worth it!

...Just had another look and I made a mistake about #23 being her last. She's also in #25 (but not with Indy, she is pissed at him). After that chapter, it's "Adios, muchachos!" for Marion! As for the dates, only the last few (#31-34) are in 1937. #30 says "circa 1936". Hope that helps.

Yes,it does help.Thank you Stoo.
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Yes please.
And thanks so much for your help.


You're welcome! The comics are in the links section, you have to join the group to get to the links, but if you really can't stand to join, just email me and I can get you the links to the comics separate

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group...avenwoodJones/
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Old 05-08-2009, 05:41 AM   #69
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You know what? This really surprised me with how good it is. It's amazing that with just one film to go off, these comic makers really nailed Indy! Then again, that film was Raiders and so many others have been trying to replicate it without success since its release...
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These are the comics I have the links for, if anyone hasn't read any of these yet..

Africa Screams part 1

Africa screams part 2

Club Nightmare

The Fourth Nail part 1

The Fourth Nail part 2

The Search for Abner part 1

The Search for Abner part 2

The Secret of the Deep
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All of Marion's Marvel appreances take place in 1936. She's in #6-12, #14, #16, #17-18, #20-23 and 25. (She is also mentioned in #16.) You should buy the Ominbus edition, Annie. It's well worth it!

...Just had another look and I made a mistake about #23 being her last. She's also in #25 (but not with Indy, she is pissed at him). After that chapter, it's "Adios, muchachos!" for Marion! As for the dates, only the last few (#31-34) are in 1937. #30 says "circa 1936". Hope that helps.

Well it's good to know that the money I pay for the next omnibus will be well worth it!!!

#25, huh? I suppose I would be expecting too much if Colin Williams was in that issue .
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I have the full run in .cbr files on a backup DVD somewhere. All the Indy comics, actually (I think. All the English-language ones, at any rate.)

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of Further Adventures as Indy stories. They're some of the best adventure comics of the time, if you just read them as adventure stories. Not too heavy on that hoary old clunker of an albatross around the neck of basically all comics pre-Moore/Morrison/Ellis known as exposition. The dialogue is killer--the series hooked me immediately with (I think) the first issue, a Spear of Destiny story which starts with Indy wrestling Adolf Hitler for the Spear. Or something like that. Been awhile since I read it. Anyway, there was some great dialogue in that scene that hooked me immediately. Something to the effect of Hitler saying "GIVE IT TO ME NOW" and Indy going "No! Wait, what are we talking about?" And another scene when Indy says, a little too loudly, something about the spear, then realizes everyone is looking at him kind of Nazily, and tries to cover it up by saying, "Uh, beer! Don't think I'll be needing another one!"

But I didn't see them as Indy stories. Obviously, they are, but I didn't really feel like they nailed any of the characters as the unique people that they are. Indy was just another comic book protagonist. He didn't talk like Indy. The examples I just cited are also examples of that problem: it just doesn't feel like Indy. (Come to think of it, it feels a lot like Han Solo.)
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I have the full run in .cbr files on a backup DVD somewhere. All the Indy comics, actually (I think. All the English-language ones, at any rate.)

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of Further Adventures as Indy stories. They're some of the best adventure comics of the time, if you just read them as adventure stories. Not too heavy on that hoary old clunker of an albatross around the neck of basically all comics pre-Moore/Morrison/Ellis known as exposition. The dialogue is killer--the series hooked me immediately with (I think) the first issue, a Spear of Destiny story which starts with Indy wrestling Adolf Hitler for the Spear. Or something like that. Been awhile since I read it. Anyway, there was some great dialogue in that scene that hooked me immediately. Something to the effect of Hitler saying "GIVE IT TO ME NOW" and Indy going "No! Wait, what are we talking about?" And another scene when Indy says, a little too loudly, something about the spear, then realizes everyone is looking at him kind of Nazily, and tries to cover it up by saying, "Uh, beer! Don't think I'll be needing another one!"

But I didn't see them as Indy stories. Obviously, they are, but I didn't really feel like they nailed any of the characters as the unique people that they are. Indy was just another comic book protagonist. He didn't talk like Indy. The examples I just cited are also examples of that problem: it just doesn't feel like Indy. (Come to think of it, it feels a lot like Han Solo.)



Uhm... isn't that scene you described from Indiana Jones and the Spear of Destiny? That's a Dark Horse comic. I do recall Indy having an hallucination after collapsing in a cave where he's excavating... I believe the hallucination featured Hitler at least. Anyway, that's not a Further Adventures story.
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Uhm... isn't that scene you described from Indiana Jones and the Spear of Destiny? That's a Dark Horse comic. I do recall Indy having an hallucination after collapsing in a cave where he's excavating... I believe the hallucination featured Hitler at least. Anyway, that's not a Further Adventures story.
OK, now I have to go back and check.

Well shave me bald and call me hairy, you're right. Wonder why I misremembered that as Further Adventures. Weird. Anyway, I still stand by the general gist of what I thought of Further Adventures. And, for the record, I did also feel that way about quite a few of the Dark Horse comics. I remember liking Shrine of the Sea Devil the best, I think. Again, it's been ages.
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The final issue of this series is so hard to find in any grade, let alone high grade. You guys can have the Omnibus - but I want the real, underprinted comics.
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