Henry W Jones
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replican't said:
Yeah, that is it exactly.
Indiana Jones films: racist?
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Yeah, that is it exactly.
Montana Smith
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replican't said:
Classy!
Henry W Jones
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RKORadio said:
Watching them and being a fan are two separate things. Why are you at the Raven? I am not attacking you, I am just curious. Your interest in the films seems minimal unless it is finding social issues in it. Even if you are "mindfully" trashing them, your interest seems to stop there and it tells me you are more interested in finding fault then appreciating the films. Your comments are never positive toward the movies and most of your comments are about sexism and racism. Get over it already. You are woman and we have all heard you roar.
Montana Smith
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RKORadio said:
Don't let the big boys bully you.
Just put into words, with evidence, the reasoning behind your claims.
It won't make the blind bit of difference in the long run, though.
Rocket Surgeon
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...and certainly ignore impassioned pleas!Montana Smith said:Don't let the big boys bully you.
A better aspect to a post you have never produced...on the other hand, your "considered" revision:Montana Smith said:
Montana Smith said:
Really RKO, I wouldn't take this insult from Montana sitting down! The obvious moral benefit to self examination isn't a fruitless exercize in your case, now is it?
Montana Smith
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Rocket Surgeon said:
The insult wasn't aimed at RKO.
Rocket Surgeon
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You should recalibrate your sights!Montana Smith said:
That or change your ammo...
Montana Smith
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Rocket Surgeon said:
It won't make the blind bit of difference in the long run, though.
Rocket Surgeon
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I disagree, you changed your position a few times...Montana Smith said:
Montana Smith
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Rocket Surgeon said:I disagree, you changed your position a few times...
None of them made the blind bit of difference.
Rocket Surgeon
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Montana Smith said:
Yet you still "<strike>contribute</strike>"
...reply... Interesting tact.
Henry W Jones
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RKORadio said:
What are you a fan of? Still no examples. Where could they be more sensitive? You still haven't answered any of my questions. They are racist because the could have be more sensitive is a weak response and does not explain why you find it racist.
Rocket Surgeon
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Henry W Jones said:
I'd like to think you'd get an answer eventually, but Stephen Colbert sumed up my perception of those who would vote the film(s) racist and not defend their position:
All I can say is keep trying.
RKORadio
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One undeniable fact is that the Indian government complained about the country's portrayal in Temple. Probably, many Indians were also upset.
That's what leaves a sour taste in my mouth - you can't just transport 1930s serials into the 1980s without compensating for the more cruel and insensitive parts of those serials.
That's what leaves a sour taste in my mouth - you can't just transport 1930s serials into the 1980s without compensating for the more cruel and insensitive parts of those serials.
Rocket Surgeon
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I won't bother getting into the legacy of corruption regarding the Indian Government in the 1980s and the demands they made on the production...however, depending on your willingness to discuss it I think there are important aspects to the claim.RKORadio said:
The most important: which of the governments complaints do you agree with?
What cruel and insensitive parts of the 1930s serials do you see transported to Temple of Doom and what would be acceptable compensation in your view?
JuniorJones
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Rocket Surgeon said:All I can say is keep trying.
Your obstinacy is fun in the same way as crashing my head against a wall. However, I like that feeling of dizziness.
Can I ask you this.
What, in your view, is racism?
Don’t push it back to me. I would like you to define it. Use a dictionary if you wish.
Henry W Jones
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RKORadio said:
So, your only response is "the Indian government complained about the country's portrayal in Temple. Probably, many Indians were also upset". So again, you have no opinion except other peoples opinion. What scenes do you personally find offensive? Not what the Indian government found offensive. What leaves a sour taste in my mouth is how little people think for themselves
JuniorJones said:
www.merriam-webster.com said:
There is no statements made that behavior of the characters is what all Indian people are like. It is not even implied. Just because Indiana Jones is white and the hero of the film does not make it implied he is superior. There is no racial slurs (unless you count "Nazi's. I hate these guys") and Indy does not act like he is better than other races in any of the films. He does not always do the right thing but that does not make him a racist. Maybe he is motivated by the cash and doesn't care what race he takes artifact from. It doesn't have to be about race and I feel it is never made out to be that way in the films. Don't push this back either, where are your examples of racism in the films?
Vance
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Well, guys, I think it's time to end the argument.
Seriously, I'm not even sure what you're trying to prove anymore than "I really want revenge for all the times I was picked on in high school". It's pathetic.
This should have been an interesting conversation about how racial views and stereotypes appeared both in Indiana Jones and the films from which they homaged. Instead it's become... this... a very shameful thread that's an embarassment to The Raven as well to fans of all pulps.
Seriously, I'm not even sure what you're trying to prove anymore than "I really want revenge for all the times I was picked on in high school". It's pathetic.
This should have been an interesting conversation about how racial views and stereotypes appeared both in Indiana Jones and the films from which they homaged. Instead it's become... this... a very shameful thread that's an embarassment to The Raven as well to fans of all pulps.
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