Jack Nelligan
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Finn said:
Oh, I think we are done! Like Montana said, ?you can't win an argument against faith?, so don?t waist your breath!
The Theory of Evolution
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Oh, I think we are done! Like Montana said, ?you can't win an argument against faith?, so don?t waist your breath!
Rocket Surgeon
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Jack Nelligan said:
So trying to "Win" are ye?!
I have faith that you just can't stay away!
Jack Nelligan
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Rocket Surgeon said:
Hello pot?this is kettle calling!
Throw your two cent in on my new thread about Global Warming.
"Arguing with a believer is like playing chess with a pigeon. It jumps on the board, upturns all your pieces and covers them in droppings. Then it flies back to its roost and tells everyone how it won a chess game." ~UnknownJack Nelligan said:
Yeah, I guess we're done.
Rocket Surgeon
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Jack Nelligan said:
You can't help yourself! HA!
Let's hope your "NEW" thread is just that, and as carefully considered and executed!
Montana Smith
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Finn said:
Not quite, I just want to say that I admire that quote, Finn. I had a history lecturer at university who happened to also be a Reverend. Suffice to say that he didn't like my interpretation of history. He told me I was like the bird that built its nest in the barrel of a cannon. Still, I got the last laugh as I got a First Class BA (Honours) in English and History.
Now, I'm done!
Rocket Surgeon
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God bless Science! Happy Birthday Theory of Evolution!
Thought this might be appropriate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zapJeJZvyAg&feature=sub
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zapJeJZvyAg&feature=sub
Morning Bell
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The_Raiders said:
This pretty much sums up my beliefs as well. It's one thing to say that something can adapt to its environment; it's quite another to say that it can morph into a completely different creature.
Hans
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Nurhachi1991 said:and here we go... Speak out against sciene and your an idiot
People can bash Religion all they want but say something against science and suddeny your a nutter
dude you need to stop and my say is that evolution is right the bible dosen't have the answers and what i'm trying to say christans get all hyped up over evolution answers i attened a christan church they are weird and in my opinion are no diffrent then the muslims they bash! they live according to the bible just like muslims would live to theirs so in a cosmic sense they are not all diffrent then at first glance
If it weren't for Christians, I'd be a Christian.-- Mahatma Ghandi
The theory of evolution is based upon observations of the natural world. The theory is both derived from nature and describes the mechanisms within nature that have brought about all the variety of life of which we are a part. What observations in the real world are the theories of creationism based upon? Someone mentioned faith earlier but that cannot be counted as substantiation. Faith equals acceptance without proof which is too convenient. How evolution occurs is beyond argument to me. I'm now more interested in why, if indeed there is a 'why'. I don't propose science might be able to help us here though, but science's great virtue is that it holds itself up to be disproven and that nothing is sacred. It is not untouchable and has a built-in requirement to be updated and fully revised if need be.
Jack Nelligan
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Mickiana said:
Aren’t scientist asking us to have FAITH in their THEORIES, because NONE of them have been able to find ANY real proof to substantiate that any species has ever turned into a different species. Yes species have changed and adapted, but there is NO proof that their basic DNA has changed to make them into something other than what they have always been. If as you put it, “Faith equals acceptance without proof” then I’ll choose FIATH in God over science every time!
You know, I've got proof. Tons of it, in fact. All those carefully constructed files showing clear evidence how man was once a fish with plenty of fossiles to back it up. And believe it or not, I've even managed to clone my very own dodo bird by mixing up the DNAs of alligator and emu.Jack Nelligan said:
And I'm willing to show them to anyone who's got real doubt, as long as you in return help me get rid of my own doubts and procure reliable scientific proof... that God exists.
And let's emphasize... scientific. I've seen that faith stuff already. Didn't quite fly.
Rocket Surgeon
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I understand and sympathise with your doubts regarding the missing link. It's inspired my question:
Why is God no longer making personal appearences as he did with Moses, why is he no longer raising people from the dead as he did with Lasarus, and his son for that matter?
Why is God no longer making personal appearences as he did with Moses, why is he no longer raising people from the dead as he did with Lasarus, and his son for that matter?
Should we emply the Occam's razor, the answer is very simple.Rocket Surgeon said:
God is dead.
But this is the philsophical answer. Not that of natural science.
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In the practical world, the point is, the scientific community at least has something to back up their theories.
If it simply comes down to faith in evolution versus faith in God, I guess we can call it a tie. There's no turning those who believe in one or the other.
But then there's the other playfield, that of science. In there, the evolutionists might not have full certainty, but at least they have something. Similarities in DNAs. Proof of adaption. Fossils. And other things.
And God, on that field? He has nothing.
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The believers are demanding more scrutiny from the scientific community what comes to their theories of evolution, yet at the same time they have no interest in placing their own faith in God to go through the same hoops. No, they want science to make its stand on the field of science while they place God in the faith sector, and expect them to be comparable. It just doesn't work that way.
And if you think it does, all I'm asking is that isn't there a statue somewhere you should be sitting on?
Rocket Surgeon said:
The OMNIPOTENT said:
Whoops, wrong thread.
Rocket Surgeon
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Science:
"The sciences of observation describe and measure the multiple manifestations of life with increasing precision and correlate them with the time line."
Religion:
"But the experience of metaphysical knowledge, of self-awareness and self-reflection, of moral conscience, freedom, or again of aesthetic and religious experience, falls within the competence of philosophical analysis and reflection, while theology brings out its ultimate meaning according to the Creator's plans."
Did God create the Universe in seven days as the Bible tells us?
"The sciences of observation describe and measure the multiple manifestations of life with increasing precision and correlate them with the time line."
Religion:
"But the experience of metaphysical knowledge, of self-awareness and self-reflection, of moral conscience, freedom, or again of aesthetic and religious experience, falls within the competence of philosophical analysis and reflection, while theology brings out its ultimate meaning according to the Creator's plans."
Did God create the Universe in seven days as the Bible tells us?