RIP Ike Turner

Matinee Idyll

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The man who invented Rock and Freakin' Roll is dead, aged 76.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071212/ap_en_mu/obit_turner

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RIP Peace man, keep rockin'.
 

Matinee Idyll

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Indy's Fist said:
Sorry I don't share the same sentiments. I hope he burns in hell for beating Tina.

Neither the time or place.

Mods, clearly this has nothing to do with Indiana Jones... could you move it please?
 

Deckard

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Everyone has flaws guys, take it easy. This isnt Chris Benoit, he was actualy inovative and we can't completely denouce what he contributed to culture even if we didn't agree w. him or his morals. If you have nothing nice to say, don't bash.
 

Matinee Idyll

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metalinvader said:
I agree.The man was a wife beater,No way in hell am I going to glorify that!

What the hell? Who's glorifying Ike beating Tina? Nobody. Granted, he was probably whacked out of his mind on cocaine while he was doing it - still, there's no reason to let these shameful moments in his personal life overshadow THE FACT HE INVENTED ROCK AND ROLL!!!

This just in, Harrison Ford beat his wife!
 

Ayrun

Moderator Emeritus
Matinee Idyll said:
there's no reason to let these shameful moments in his personal life overshadow THE FACT HE INVENTED ROCK AND ROLL!!!

And there´s no reason to let his ´invention´ overshadow his shameful moments, either. They are both parts of the same guy.

Anyway.. he died at the age of 76. I don´t see the tragedy there. He was an old guy with most likely some unhealthy habits. He´s lucky to have lived this long already.
 

Indy's Fist

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Matinee Idyll said:
Neither the time or place.

Mods, clearly this has nothing to do with Indiana Jones... could you move it please?

Like Ike Turner has anything to do with Indy either?:rolleyes:
 

Matinee Idyll

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Ayrun said:
And there´s no reason to let his ´invention´ overshadow his shameful moments, either. They are both parts of the same guy.

He's a musician. Musicians play music. This man was one of the most important, trend-setting, innovative musicians of the 20th Century.

You wouldn't know that from reading 99% of Obituaries I've heard - They managed to highlight all of his problems while mentioning in passing that he also happened to be involved in making music. That is sick.

As with a lot of musical artists, too much sensationalist bollocks is written about their personal lives and given precedence in the media (and thus infiltrating the minds of the impressionable) over their actual musical achievements.
 

San Holo

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Whooah momma, did somebody say Rock and Roll?
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Matinee Idyll

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Yes, I did. Once again, white society tries to claim the invention of something that had been in existence for years prior to Elvis recording That's All Right.

And Indy's Fist, you probably wouldn't have even heard of Tina if it weren't for Ike - She'd still be Annie Mae Bullock.
 
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roundshort

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Matinee Idyll said:
The man who invented Rock and Freakin' Roll is dead, aged 76.


WHAT?!?!? Chuck Berry is dead???????!!!!!!!

"While no individual can be said to have invented rock and roll, Chuck Berry comes the closest of any single figure to being the one who put all the essential pieces together." (From the Rock and Roll hall of fame.

Turner was a piece s**T wife beater. Long live Chuck, "Hail, Hail Rock And Roll!"
 

metalinvader

Well-known member
Matinee Idyll said:
What the hell? Who's glorifying Ike beating Tina? Nobody. Granted, he was probably whacked out of his mind on cocaine while he was doing it - still, there's no reason to let these shameful moments in his personal life overshadow THE FACT HE INVENTED ROCK AND ROLL!!!

This just in, Harrison Ford beat his wife!

Being on coke doesn't excuse it.The man beat his wife.

Ike didn't invent rock and roll at all..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_rock_and_roll_record

He may have been a key figure in the rise but invent? Hardly!
 

Matinee Idyll

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Gaw, you guys are truly experts in the use of google! Don't **** me off.

Listen, I've heard most all the contenders for the throne of 'first rock 'n roll' song and NOTHING beats the unmistakable feel of 'Rocket 88', recorded by Ike in 1951.

roundshort, Before you callously dismiss one of the legends of modern music in favor of some dark moments shamelessly exploited to sell some terrible records in the 80's, I would recommend some listening to his music.

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http://www.sendspace.com/file/tlojf2

"Rocket 88" was first recorded at Sam Phillips' recording studio in Memphis, Tennessee, on 3 or 5 March (accounts differ) 1951. It is claimed by some, including Phillips to be the "first rock and roll song".

The original version of the 12-bar blues song was credited to "Jackie Brenston and his Delta Cats," but that band did not actually exist. The song was put together by Ike Turner and his band in rehearsals at the Riverside Hotel in Clarksdale, Mississippi, and recorded by Turner's Kings of Rhythm. Jackie Brenston (1930-1979) was a saxophonist with Turner who also sang the vocal on "Rocket 88," a hymn of praise to the joys of the Oldsmobile "Rocket 88" automobile, which had just been introduced in 1949. Although Brenston was given author credit rather than Turner, it is now agreed that Brenston's contribution was overstated for financial reasons.

Working from the raw material of jump blues and swing combo music, Turner made it even rawer, starting with a strongly stated back beat by drummer Willie Sims, and superimposing Brenston's enthusiastic vocals, his own piano, and tenor saxophone solos by 17 year old Raymond Hill (later to be the father of Tina Turner's first child, before she married Ike). The song also features one of the first examples of distortion, or fuzz guitar, ever recorded, played by the band's guitarist Willie Kizart.

The legend of how the sound came about says that Kizart's amplifier was damaged on Highway 61 when the band was driving from Mississippi to Memphis, Tennessee, but Phillips liked the sound and used it. Robert Palmer has written that the amplifier "had fallen from the top of the car", and attributes this information to Sam Phillips. However, in a recorded interview at the Experience Music Project in Seattle, Washington, Ike Turner stated that the amplifier was in the trunk of the car and that rain may have caused the damage; he is certain that it did not fall from the roof of the car.

It was the second-biggest rhythm and blues single of 1951, reaching # 1 in June for five weeks and much more influential than some other "first" claimants. Ike Turner's piano intro to the song was later used note-for-note by Little Richard in "Good Golly Miss Molly."

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Indy's Fist

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Matinee Idyll said:
Yes, I did. Once again, white society tries to claim the invention of something that had been in existence for years prior to Elvis recording That's All Right.

And Indy's Fist, you probably wouldn't have even heard of Tina if it weren't for Ike - She'd still be Annie Mae Bullock.

She may have been better off for it!
 

Attila the Professor

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Staff member
I've been thinking a lot of this poem lately...it seems pretty relevant.

The Choice

The intellect of man is forced to choose
perfection of the life, or of the work,
And if it take the second must refuse
A heavenly mansion, raging in the dark.
When all that story's finished, what's the news?
In luck or out the toil has left its mark:
That old perplexity an empty purse,
Or the day's vanity, the night's remorse.

William Butler Yeats
 

Matinee Idyll

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Nice quote Attila.

roundshort said:
Turner was a piece s**T wife beater. Long live Chuck, "Hail, Hail Rock And Roll!"

Heh, I hate to play the hypocrite card...

"In 1959, Berry was charged with statutory rape of a 14-year-old Spanish-speaking Apache girl he had brought from Texas to St. Louis. Berry was eventually convicted and spent two years in federal prison. In 1979, he spent 100 days in prison for income tax evasion. In 1988, he had to pay a fine to settle a lawsuit from a woman who alleges he punched her in the face. In 1990, police raided his home and found 62 grams of marijuana plus video recordings of women who were visiting the restroom at his amusement park in Wentzville, Missouri. He was given a six-month suspended sentence, placed on two years' probation, and required to donate $5,000 to a hospital. He has had multiple marriages."

http://www.adherents.com/people/pb/Chuck_Berry.html
 

Kingsley

Member
Attila the Professor said:
I've been thinking a lot of this poem lately...it seems pretty relevant.

The Choice

The intellect of man is forced to choose
perfection of the life, or of the work,
And if it take the second must refuse
A heavenly mansion, raging in the dark.
When all that story's finished, what's the news?
In luck or out the toil has left its mark:
That old perplexity an empty purse,
Or the day's vanity, the night's remorse.

William Butler Yeats
Well, this suits very well this moment in my life. It's truly a choice!
 

sunshinestate1992

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Matinee Idyll said:
Nice quote Attila.



Heh, I hate to play the hypocrite card...

"In 1959, Berry was charged with statutory rape of a 14-year-old Spanish-speaking Apache girl he had brought from Texas to St. Louis. Berry was eventually convicted and spent two years in federal prison. In 1979, he spent 100 days in prison for income tax evasion. In 1988, he had to pay a fine to settle a lawsuit from a woman who alleges he punched her in the face. In 1990, police raided his home and found 62 grams of marijuana plus video recordings of women who were visiting the restroom at his amusement park in Wentzville, Missouri. He was given a six-month suspended sentence, placed on two years' probation, and required to donate $5,000 to a hospital. He has had multiple marriages."

http://www.adherents.com/people/pb/Chuck_Berry.html
hes a d bag too
but too bad it doesnt change the fact that ike is scum.
 
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