Trilogy on Blu-Ray

Dr.Jonesy

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Wish there was a US version, as well.

My only issue is that the physical extras in the set seem very 'Last Crusade' oriented. I think they could've included the tablet rubbing, Oxley's letter, the Sankara Cloth and something from 'Raiders'.
 
HenryJunior

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Yeah Dr.Jonsey the "Power of God" drawing from Indy's book in Raiders would have been cool. Hmm, maybe I'll just stick with the cool special features that come with the regular US pack. :rolleyes:
 
Dr.Jonesy

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HenryJunior said:
Yeah Dr.Jonsey the "Power of God" drawing from Indy's book in Raiders would have been cool.
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Aha! I was trying to think of a paper prop extra from 'Raiders' they could've put it, not sure how this slipped my mind. I agree! That would've been cool.
 
Stoo

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russds said:
Are those deleted scenes and footage brought up by @digitalfreaknyc part of the new stuff (From Jungle to Desert or From Adventure to Legend)?
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Yes, Russ. I addressed this 3 weeks ago. (See: post #532)
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Yes. That is where they will be.
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DigitalFreak, I'm glad that you've finally come to your senses & have seen the light. Earlier, you were certain of the exact opposite. (I explained why the deleted scenes would, undoubtedly, be worked into the new documentaries but you debated it.) There's nothing wrong in admitting that you were mistaken.;)

That said, THANKS for the news about a 2nd deleted scene!(y)

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I want the UK set just for that box alone! Damned cool! Luckily, my sister lives in Southampton so it could be shipped to her, if necessary.

Who else wonders if the matchbook will actually have matches in it?:confused:
 
Goodeknight

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Kevin said:
What will the shipping to the USA be for the UK exclusive?
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I just checked and it's only about $5. (3.08 Pounds Sterling)

So the grand total for the UK collector's set, with shipping to the US is about $84. Not bad, when the US plain release is $68.

I do wonder if in the US they plan to pull the ol' -- "You bought the blu-rays in September. Now, just in time for Christmas, buy the super-ultimate-special-collector's-premium edition!"

Stoo said:
Who else wonders if the matchbook will actually have matches in it?:confused:
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This made me smile. Yes, I wondered the same thing.
 
Sakis

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JuniorJones said:
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oooooooooh!
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Damn Lucasfilm, you're gonna be the financial death of me. Back when I was a teen and Last Crusade came to VHS I bought the videotape although I didn't have a VCR in home. I purchased one 4 years later.:eek: The same happend with the CDs, I kept buying them when I had only vinyl player. I see the pattern to be repeated. :mad:
 
Violet

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Right now, I am so happy I'm paying the extra 20 bucks for the limited edition. Sure I got to wait an extra month but I don't care. (y)
 
russds

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Stoo said:
Yes, Russ. I addressed this 3 weeks ago. (See: post #532)
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Thanks Stoo, I too am very eager to see any unrelease footage, or deleted scenes. I was aware of the new Cairo swordsman footage, but I was refering to this:

It was cut from the scene when Indy and Sallah were stuck serving water to the Nazis. The bit was longer, with some slapstick-type action. This particular scene didn't have any affect on the plot, and it was probably good that it was cut out. It was nice to see it interspersed with some behind-the-scenes footage, though.
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I may have missed it, but this was the first I had heard of a second portion of unused footage, which got me excited. :)

So correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like the blu-ray set will contain new making of features, and in those will contain new footage from the Cairo swords men, and scene with Sallah and Indy serving water to Nazis?

Ooh, i'm excited!
 
Stoo

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goodeknight said:
This made me smile. Yes, I wondered the same thing.
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Will they be real matches? Will they be they be fake? Will they be cardboard stems with no heads?:confused: (Kind of like what happened to Popeye candy cigarettes when they became plain, white sticks & cap gun toys were banned.)
Violet said:
Right now, I am so happy I'm paying the extra 20 bucks for the limited edition. Sure I got to wait an extra month but I don't care. (y)
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Good on you, Vio.:)
russds said:
Thanks Stoo, I too am very eager to see any unrelease footage, or deleted scenes. I was aware of the new Cairo swordsman footage, but I was refering to this:

I may have missed it, but this was the first I had heard of a second portion of unused footage, which got me excited. :)

So correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like the blu-ray set will contain new making of features, and in those will contain new footage from the Cairo swords men, and scene with Sallah and Indy serving water to Nazis?
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Yes, DigitalFreak was the 1st to report (here) about the water-serving scene. When I referred to the earlier post, I was merely pointing out that any new/unseen footage of a deleted part will, defininitely, be included within 1 of the 2 new, "On the Set", documentaries because all of the other bonus features have already been released.
russds said:
Ooh, i'm excited!
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Same here!:)
 
Rocket Surgeon

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Stoo said:
Yes, DigitalFreak was the 1st to report (here) about the water-serving scene. When I referred to the earlier post, I was merely pointing out that any new/unseen footage of a deleted part will, defininitely, be included within 1 of the 2 new, "On the Set", documentaries because all of the other bonus features have already been released.
Same here!:)
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I'm curious how much more there is/will be included than what already exists in Schuman's Making of documentary...and what quality.
 
indyclone25

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Rocket Surgeon said:
I'm curious how much more there is/will be included than what already exists in Schuman's Making of documentary...and what quality.
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the quality will probably be as good as the laserdisc version and that was grainy , when they made thos docs in the 80's they really didnt use the best film ......;)
 
Sakis

Sakis

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Rocket Surgeon said:
I'm curious how much more there is/will be included than what already exists in Schuman's Making of documentary...and what quality.
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Well, if you think that in each film each scene is shot twice (at least) and by different camera angles you can understand the wealth of unseen footage in Lucasfilm's vault. Additionaly, you should consider that for Raiders the first cut of the film was about 3 hours!

And now a trivial question: Has anyone seen the original Raiders trailer that was considered disasterous and never shown again?
 
digitalfreaknyc

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indyclone25 said:
the quality will probably be as good as the laserdisc version and that was grainy , when they made thos docs in the 80's they really didnt use the best film ......;)
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I'm thinking you're a bit confused. What exactly does "best film" mean to you?

They filmed it in 16mm and they'd easily be able to make an HD version of it.
 
indyclone25

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digitalfreaknyc said:
I'm thinking you're a bit confused. What exactly does "best film" mean to you?

They filmed it in 16mm and they'd easily be able to make an HD version of it.
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im just saying i have the making of raiders and great movies stunts on laserdisc, and the picture wasn't clear it appeared to be grainy, not the best , but far from being the worst, i was hoping that the laserdisc would have had a better picture than my vhs version , but it was the same. so i'm just saying that they didn't make it cleaner , im sure it will look nice on the bluray , but only as good as the makings of star wars and empire and jedi looked, and they were a bit grainy too.
 
Rocket Surgeon

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One would hope that film which has remained "in the can" won't have much dirt from what ever use it's seen...if they had taken the trouble to clean it they would have made a point to say something.

I'm curious how age, (and storage) has afected the film stock itself...


...the clip of the Whip Sword Dual looked fantastic and pretty sharp, it gives hope!
 
Rocket Surgeon

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While we wait for A few words about...

...Raiders of the Lost Ark in Blu-ray

Originaly posted by Robert Harris

About a week ago, I received a private message on HTF asking what I knew about the new Raiders of the Lost Ark ?restoration.?

I knew nothing, and at that point had not fully read the promotional material re: the Imax presentations, although I was aware of the forthcoming Blu-ray.

Best thing to do was to go to the source, which in this case is the team responsible for restoration and mastering at Paramount. A conference call was arranged with Andrea Kalas, VP of Archives, Laura Thornburg, Exec. Dir, Restoration and Preservation, Archives, and Jeff Cava, Supervising Librarian, Restoration and Preservation, Archives. Jeff is an old friend, who had overseen the audio work with Walter Murch, updating and cleaning the original tracks for the 2007 restoration of The Godfather(s).

My initial question was ?What?s being restored?? I was given a shopping list of both visual and aural work that had been performed, all with the greatest of respect for the original, and with an eye toward both the future as well as the past, in that full preservation had gone hand-in-hand with the regimen.

But was the work what I would consider to be a bona-fide ?restoration?? The bottom line is that to my mind, it isn?t. But that statement alone would be unfair to the amount of work and the spirit with which it was performed.

The original negative had been scanned at 4k ? full resolution ? which without the analogue cover of generations of dupes from original to theatrical print, made matte lines and effects a bit more obvious than they had original been on screen. This is normal.

Color and densities were captured with more perfection and detail via the scan, and I?m told that grain was left untainted. A digital cleansing of the image, to wipe away bits of minus density and detritus, were also up to spec for a serious project. And make no mistake, this is a serious project.

For audio, Mr. Cava took counsel from Ben Burtt, the original sound designer, and the two created a newly designed mix, based with great care, upon the originals.

I make note of originals, as there were two. The first was a 6-track discreet mix, used for sounding 70mm prints, formatted L-C-R, with baby booms in positions 2 and 4, and with a monaural surround channel. 35mm prints used a 2-track Dolby encoded, toward the creation of an optical SVA track.

Mssrs. Burtt and Cava returned to the original audio units, gently bringing the audio into the 21st century.

So, how do I answer the question about a ?restoration?? To my mind, this isn?t one, yet the term adds a certain amount of sizzle to the work performed. That's great for marketing, but isn't precise enough to separate work of this kind from bona fide restorations, with all their heavy lifting.

But neither is this a simple mastering or re-mastering, which could be performed from a color-corrected IP with little expense or loss of sleep.

Our little discussion group came to the opinion that possibly a new term is needed for this type of work. Not a restoration, as there?s really nothing to be restored. The elements had been well kept and highly protected over the years. The OCN is intact, and original tracks are in perfect condition. Yet, this is something highly technical, with all parties working on all 12 cylinders, and at the highest level of technical proficiency.

For the moment, and until someone can coin a better phrase, I?m going to call this a DBR, a Digital Based Re-Visualization.

That said, and now knowing what has been involved, I can?t wait to see the final results on Blu-ray. No doubt, Indiana Jones: The Complete Adventures is going to be one of the Blu-ray best sellers of 2012, and deservedly so.
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