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Old 02-10-2012, 04:34 PM   #76
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I remember skimming this script a few years back and thinking, "they can't be serious." For that reason I've never sat down to actually read it in one sitting.

Would you guys have rather seen this as opposed to Saucer Men? Given that Last Crusade does take many an action sequence from Monkey King, theoretically would you guys have wanted to see Monkey King or Saucer Men?
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Old 07-01-2012, 01:59 PM   #77
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Dug up this 1984 Spielberg interview where he tells Chris Columbus "this one should have riddles and maybe a puzzle and how there should be a test of character." They could be discussing Goonies though.

In 1985 the interviewer mentions "Raiders III" and Spielberg repeats it. Probably about the last (and first?) time anyone called it that. The 1985-1987 scripts were labelled "Indy III."
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Old 04-19-2013, 06:05 PM   #78
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it could have been a novel. Or much more likely, a comic book.
Starting in September, J.W. Rinzler's 8-part Dark Horse comics adaptation of Lucas's 1974 Star Wars script begins.

Maybe there's hope for a 6-part Monkey King adaptation? Think of the covers: Irish castle, water skiing, pirate ship battle, rhinoceros riding, gladiator arena, Indy's funeral. And it would become canonical!
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Old 04-20-2013, 06:26 PM   #79
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Starting in September, J.W. Rinzler's 8-part Dark Horse comics adaptation of Lucas's 1974 Star Wars script begins.

Maybe there's hope for a 6-part Monkey King adaptation? Think of the covers: Irish castle, water skiing, pirate ship battle, rhinoceros riding, gladiator arena, Indy's funeral. And it would become canonical!

nope. too late. you said "Star Wars." There is nothing else
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Old 11-25-2013, 11:44 AM   #80
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Lost City of Sun Wu Kung

I have a somber "near acquisituion" story to tell. A week ago I won this eBay auction. (Even more enticing, the seller has this script acquired at the same estate sale in Los Angeles... perhaps he acquired Diane Thomas' Indy script which came between? No, it turned out.)

So a week ago the Columbus draft was supposed to be mailed, but the tracking information never appeared. Now the seller confesses: "I leave all my packages in containers in the back of the post office out side on there loading dock. I left other packages the day and time. Some of the other people have already received they auctions." Fitting, no? Losing the MacGuffin in the final act. Had he placed it in the metal blue thing you'd be reading the PDF right now.
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Old 11-25-2013, 03:09 PM   #81
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Old 11-25-2013, 05:58 PM   #82
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Old 11-25-2013, 06:34 PM   #83
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Hold up, there's movement!
It's currently in a warehouse in Downey.
I'm not kidding.
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:23 AM   #84
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Hehehe... in that previous thread you just posted, a young Dr. Gonzo took some pictures on that last page that I forgot about...

Glad I wasn't "employed" back then.
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:21 PM   #85
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http://www.theraider.net/films/crusade/screenplay.php
It arrived, however, it's just the first 20 pages. Someone stapled it in sections long ago and the other sections are lost in time. Given a choice I'd prefer the last 20 pages which were vastly changed. Hopefully the existence of this sample shakes the bushes a little!
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Old 02-21-2014, 06:30 PM   #86
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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/186

I remember hearing about this script leak in 1996. It finally made it out of the depths of the internet in 1997... One could argue these days it takes longer.
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Old 02-26-2014, 07:13 PM   #87
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Props on the ongoing archeology, Moedred. Every little bit counts.

You know, if Lucasfilm/Disney would just release all these unused screenplays in a handsome bound volume...I can guarantee them no less than like seven sales. They should really get on that.

Incidentally, looking at that script page, shouldn't there be a bullet point above Chris Columbus to account for whatever treatment/draft Diane Thomas turned in for Lucas for the "haunted castle" idea? I don't know if she ever actually contributed a complete screenplay before her death (or whenever Lucas pulled the plug on the concept when it was clear it wasn't turning Spielberg's crank), but she produced something, surely.

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Old 02-26-2014, 11:32 PM   #88
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If we ever interview Rinzler that'll be one of the first questions, whether there was anything by or about Diane Thomas in the storage box. It's possible she was approached before her death and some have exaggerated her obituary, but no one wants to diminish her contribution.
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Old 02-27-2014, 07:44 AM   #89
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At the very least she would have had some sort of story meeting with Lucas. Is there no official source that at least alludes to their collaboration? I don't own that giant Making Of book, for example. While details have always been scant, I could swear her name is dropped in at least one Lucasfilm-sanctioned overview of Last Crusade's gestation.

That "Raiders of the Lost Drafts" has a bibliography, but who's the source for this particular snippet?

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Far from looking for the Holy Grail, Indy's next adventure was originally supposed to be a horror movie, 1930's style, set in a haunted house. This odd idea came from Lucas, who commissioned Diane Thomas, the writer of Romancing The Stone, to produce a screenplay. Thomas completed her first draft shortly before her untimely death in a car crash, but the script and the horror-movie idea were both scrapped. However, elements of it found their way into the opening sequence of the next shot at Indy 3 - Chris Columbus's failed (and fabled) Monkey King script.

EDIT: Joseph McBride's biography of Spielberg makes the same claim:

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Lucas initially suggested making Indy III "a haunted-house movie." He had such a script written by Romancing the Stone screenwriter Diane Thomas before her death in a 1985 car accident, but, Lucas said, "Steven had done Poltergeist, and he didn't want to do another movie like that."

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Old 03-14-2014, 01:24 PM   #90
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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/186

I remember hearing about this script leak in 1996. It finally made it out of the depths of the internet in 1997... One could argue these days it takes longer.
I never visit the "Ain't it Cool News" website unless an Indy-related link is posted here at The Raven. Each time that I've clicked on whatever link, it always leads to some groan-inducing blog.

Ain't it unsurprising that this latest one was no exception:

INDY IV draft that will never be!!!
Published at: Oct. 24, 1997, midnight CST

"Remember how I told yall I was suppose to get a draft of the Indiana Jones 4 script? Well, I did today. It was written by Chris Columbus back in 1995 and it is his 1st draft. And it wasn't that bad, pretty good actually. Now for the bad news... It won't be the draft to make it on screen."

"Pretty good"? It is TERRIBLE! Thank G_d this never made it to the screen.

I'm still curious as to why the first leaked version was changed to say "Indiana Jones IV" with a date of 2/10/1995. Intentional rumour-spreading, perhaps?
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Old 03-14-2014, 01:58 PM   #91
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Chris Columbus' draft is bananas, but often to entertaining effect. It would have been fun, that's for sure. And of course the version we have been critiquing all these years is his first draft - in most other cases like this, we have a later draft of the screenwriters' work.

Unless Spielberg is trying to spare Columbus some embarrassment - highly possible - he passed on the script for practical reasons and racial sensitivity concerns. That said, LucasArts designers probably agreed with the opinion that the script was terrible, because they vetoed the idea of turning the script into an adventure game and instead went on to make a game so good it's arguably superior to any of the actual movie sequels.
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Old 03-18-2016, 08:49 PM   #92
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could the Monkey king still work for say Indy 5?
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In retrospect, I'm quite fond of the haunted castle sequence. I have no idea why, I just do. It isn't any crazier than anything else in the script, and it reminds me of a distaff version of The Stone Tape or something.
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