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Old 09-24-2010, 12:24 PM   #76
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Since this is the better thread, below is a transplant of Rocket's post from the All of the Deleted Scenes thread:
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Something must not have gone well, worked out. I have to rip the video of the Chatter La'l puppet being dunked...it's barely a second long though!

The story board is from :The Complete Making of" book. I REALLY like that shot, maybe because Halloween is around the corner.
Where is the video clip from? I may have it and not realize. Just found the storyboard in the "Complete Making of" book but as ATMachine pointed out in the Rare Indy Photos thread:
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At least one of the storyboards showing Chattar Lal's skeletonized corpse, post-lava-bath, can be found in the book From Star Wars to Indiana Jones: The Best of the Lucasfilm Archives. The storyboard in question even has a caption mentioning that, as the iron rack rises up from the lava pool, it bears "the burning skeleton of Chattar Lal."
I checked the "Best of Lucasfilm Archives" and there are indeed more storyboards (8 in total). Indy & Shorty peer down into the sacrificial pit as the cage rises and after Lal's burnt skeleton appears, Mola Ram collects all 3 Sankara Stones.
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Old 10-20-2010, 08:07 AM   #77
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Thanks to whichever moderator merged the 2 Deleted Scenes threads.

On the IndyCast Flicker page there's 2 photos of Indy, Willie & Shorty by the edge of the lava pit in the main chamber. In one of them Shorty is crossing the pit on a burning, wooden plank and Indy & Willie are grabbing him as it breaks. Pretty freaking cool (or hot, I should say)!

@Rocket: Where did you find these photos?
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Old 10-20-2010, 03:41 PM   #78
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"Well, I don't remember them all, but here's some off the top of my head...

From Raiders:

1. Sallah's execution = After capturing the Ark, the Germans decide Sallah should be executed. The task is left to a young german soldier who is ultimately unable to kill Sallah."

...Hm It's like there was a huge argument over this in another thread.

But thanks I had no idea ToD had deleted scenes.
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Old 10-20-2010, 04:19 PM   #79
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"Well, I don't remember them all, but here's some off the top of my head...

From Raiders:

1. Sallah's execution = After capturing the Ark, the Germans decide Sallah should be executed. The task is left to a young german soldier who is ultimately unable to kill Sallah."
Looks like you didn't bother reading. Sallah's near-execution has been already been mentioned several times in this thread. (The most recent example is a mere, 3 posts above.) Sorry but this is nothing new.
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...Hm It's like there was a huge argument over this in another thread.
Don't confuse things, Disco. The only argument there was about a certain crackpot's insistence that Sallah was killed during the deleted scene.
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Stoo, on your first quote from Discolad. I think he was trying to quote What Truck?'s post.
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Old 10-20-2010, 04:24 PM   #81
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Stoo, on your first quote from Discolad. I think he was trying to quote What Truck?'s post.

Yea Stoo, I was. I am bad a quoting so it came out wrong.
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Old 10-26-2010, 08:59 PM   #82
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Thanks to whichever moderator merged the 2 Deleted Scenes threads.

On the IndyCast Flicker page there's 2 photos of Indy, Willie & Shorty by the edge of the lava pit in the main chamber. In one of them Shorty is crossing the pit on a burning, wooden plank and Indy & Willie are grabbing him as it breaks. Pretty freaking cool (or hot, I should say)!

@Rocket: Where did you find these photos?

The one that shows them actually crossing was from, I believe, a Lucas biography. It was a 2 page full-color large photo. It shocked the hell out of me when I saw it. I don't think it's been published anywhere else.
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Old 10-28-2010, 03:25 PM   #83
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Thanks for the reply, Freak. Yes, it shocked the hell out of me, as well! Anyone know which Lucas biography? The photo on the IndyCast page doesn't look like a 2-page spread so it might have been published elsewhere and the Lucas bio must have a sharper picture.

The shot where Shorty is crossing the plank was reversed so I've flipped it to show how the scene would've most likely played out. Here they are in all their glory (images courtesy of 'Trivia Guru Pat' on the IndyCast Flicker page). AWESOME find!

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Old 10-29-2010, 11:55 AM   #84
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The first picture (the coloured one) was published at Charles Champlin's book "George Lucas: The Creative Impulse - Lucasfilm's First Twenty Years" in 1992. The picture was spread across two pages and was blur. Perhaps that is the reason why five years later when they published a revised and updated edition, called "George Lucas: The Creative Impulse - Lucasfilm's First Twenty-Five Years" the picture was substituted by one of Short Round fighting Thugees with a torch. The second picture (b&w) I have only saw it at a French film book that I've forgotten its name many years ago. Actually, I had borrowed that book from the library of the French Institute in Athens through my sister. The rumor that upon it's return the book lacked a page has never been substantiated.

Anyway, both pictures (already part of the deleted scenes page at theraider.net and scanned by yours truely) come from a deleted scene where Indy and co. help the indian children to cross the lava chasm with a plank. That's how the children find their way to the palace interior. Unfortunately, when it is Short Round's turn to cross the chasm the plank is ablaze forcing our heroes to go back through the mines. In J.W. Rinzler's "The Complete Making of Indiana Jones: The Definitive Story Behind All Four Films" you can see a picture of Indy helping the kids cross the chasm at page 155.

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Thanks for the reply, Freak. Yes, it shocked the hell out of me, as well! Anyone know which Lucas biography? The photo on the IndyCast page doesn't look like a 2-page spread so it might have been published elsewhere and the Lucas bio must have a sharper picture.

The shot where Shorty is crossing the plank was reversed so I've flipped it to show how the scene would've most likely played out. Here they are in all their glory (images courtesy of 'Trivia Guru Pat' on the IndyCast Flicker page). AWESOME find!

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Old 11-01-2010, 09:39 AM   #85
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The first picture (the coloured one) was published at Charles Champlin's book "George Lucas: The Creative Impulse - Lucasfilm's First Twenty Years" in 1992. The picture was spread across two pages and was blur.
Thanks a lot for the info as to its source, Sakis. I never bought either edition of that book. You mention that the original photo is blurry but this image still doesn't look like it's from a 2-page spread. Did you fix it up and remove the crease in the middle?
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The second picture (b&w) I have only saw it at a French film book that I've forgotten its name many years ago. Actually, I had borrowed that book from the library of the French Institute in Athens through my sister. The rumor that upon it's return the book lacked a page has never been substantiated.
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Anyway, both pictures (already part of the deleted scenes page at theraider.net and scanned by yours truely)
Oops! I should have known that and have obviously seen them before but completely forgot. That's probably where the IndyCast's 'Trivia Guru Pat' got the pictures from.
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In J.W. Rinzler's "The Complete Making of Indiana Jones: The Definitive Story Behind All Four Films" you can see a picture of Indy helping the kids cross the chasm at page 155.
"Na se kala." Thanks. I see it now and it's a good one. Still haven't read the whole book and there's so much good stuff in there that I never noticed the photo. You should definitely add it to the Raider.net deleted scenes page, Sakis (AND reverse/flip the colour one of Shorty crossing the plank since it's backwards)!

Now, this raises a question: Where did the plank come from? There's some elaborate carving on it. Can it be seen somewhere in any other shots of the film?
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Old 11-01-2010, 10:35 AM   #86
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I never bought either edition of that book.

I have the book, but I'd have to check which edition it was.

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Now, this raises a question: Where did the plank come from? There's some elaborate carving on it. Can it be seen somewhere in any other shots of the film?

James Kahn's novelization may hold the answer:

"Indy, Willie, and some of the bigger children tore down a long wooden plank from the altar, one of the decorative elements flanking the giant statue, carved with myriad hideous figures of Kali and her atrocities. When it had fallen to the ground, they carried it to the edge of the natural chasm separating the altar from the rest of the temple, the last barrier to freedom."
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The picture is spread across 2 pages but the one side covers a whole page while the covers about 1/4. And yes I did used some photoshop.

As for your question Montana Smith has already answered that.

Get back to that book of yours you still have a lot to learn.
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Old 11-02-2010, 11:17 AM   #88
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James Kahn's novelization may hold the answer:
Indeed, that's what the novel says but I can't see anything that resembles the plank's carved design near the altar nor anywhere in the main chamber. (Although it does have a skull that looks quite like the one engraved into the doors of the sacrificial pit.) Check out the photo in the "Complete Making of" book for a better look at the plank.
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The picture is spread across 2 pages but the one side covers a whole page while the covers about 1/4. And yes I did used some photoshop.

As for your question Montana Smith has already answered that.
Unfortunately, he didn't. (No offense to Montana Smiffy.) Extra details in the novel don't always match up with what is seen in the film. I'm wondering if maybe the plank was taken from inside the mines since Indy & Co. had to go back there in order to free the children before returning to the main chamber for their escape.

I can see where you fixed the photo. The white blobs that run down vertically on the right side of the picture (in the proper, flipped version above) just to the left of the top torch down to the break in the plank.
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Old 11-02-2010, 03:11 PM   #89
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The first picture (the coloured one) was published at Charles Champlin's book "George Lucas: The Creative Impulse - Lucasfilm's First Twenty Years" in 1992. The picture was spread across two pages and was blur. Perhaps that is the reason why five years later when they published a revised and updated edition, called "George Lucas: The Creative Impulse - Lucasfilm's First Twenty-Five Years" the picture was substituted by one of Short Round fighting Thugees with a torch. The second picture (b&w) I have only saw it at a French film book that I've forgotten its name many years ago. Actually, I had borrowed that book from the library of the French Institute in Athens through my sister. The rumor that upon it's return the book lacked a page has never been substantiated.

Anyway, both pictures (already part of the deleted scenes page at theraider.net and scanned by yours truely) come from a deleted scene where Indy and co. help the indian children to cross the lava chasm with a plank. That's how the children find their way to the palace interior. Unfortunately, when it is Short Round's turn to cross the chasm the plank is ablaze forcing our heroes to go back through the mines. In J.W. Rinzler's "The Complete Making of Indiana Jones: The Definitive Story Behind All Four Films" you can see a picture of Indy helping the kids cross the chasm at page 155.

It may be the same pic, (the internet is incestuous), though I didn't pluck it from The Raider.net. Since this conversation heated up, I've been looking through various bookmarks for the link. I will post it when I find it, however it's from a site I stumbled upon which was host to a well of Paramount Pictures stills. I'm affraid until I recover it, I can't explain it any better...life goes on.
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Ok, no harm is done, though I'd love to see that Paramount well!!!
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:18 PM   #91
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It may be the same pic, (the internet is incestuous), though I didn't pluck it from The Raider.net. Since this conversation heated up, I've been looking through various bookmarks for the link. I will post it when I find it, however it's from a site I stumbled upon which was host to a well of Paramount Pictures stills. I'm affraid until I recover it, I can't explain it any better...life goes on.
Without any doubt, it is indeed the same picture. The site you found it on took the image (and most likely the b&w one, too) from TheRaider.net. How do I know? They both share the same tell-tale signs of Sakis' Photoshop job where he joined the 2 pages together:



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Since this conversation heated up...
Would be nice if there was more conversation. How sad is it that "Whatcha playin? (In Video Games Wise.)", "Random Picture Thread" and "Post your desktop" have more activity than the subject of deleted scenes? The younger "What r u eating?" thread even has double the amount of hits as this one. Pathetic.
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Ok, no harm is done, though I'd love to see that Paramount well!!!
I'll post a few of the pictures I downloaded...I'm workin on it, I'm workin on it!
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Would be nice if there was more conversation. How sad is it that "Whatcha playin? (In Video Games Wise.)", "Random Picture Thread" and "Post your desktop" have more activity than the subject of deleted scenes? The younger "What r u eating?" thread even has double the amount of hits as this one. Pathetic.
I guess it's up to us. No offense, but the whole draw of saying something random about the person above, (among others) escapes me. If it was a thread frequented by the writing staff of Your Show of Shows maybe, but...

It ain't easy getting old!
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I'll post a few of the pictures I downloaded...I'm workin on it, I'm workin on it!

Basically, I want to see if there are any rare pictures in that well. So, quit fooling around...
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Would be nice if there was more conversation. How sad is it that "Whatcha playin? (In Video Games Wise.)", "Random Picture Thread" and "Post your desktop" have more activity than the subject of deleted scenes? The younger "What r u eating?" thread even has double the amount of hits as this one. Pathetic.

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I guess it's up to us. No offense, but the whole draw of saying something random about the person above, (among others) escapes me. If it was a thread frequented by the writing staff of Your Show of Shows maybe, but...

It ain't easy getting old!

Ever felt Indy-weary? Or more specifically Raven-weary?

I descended into the decadence of posting silly pictures and poking fun at silly threads. Then I was going to give up on this place, and break the addiction. But it keeps calling me back.

My Indy-mojo, however, is still weak and flat-lining...
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Ever felt Indy-weary? Or more specifically Raven-weary?

I descended into the decadence of posting silly pictures and poking fun at silly threads. Then I was going to give up on this place, and break the addiction. But it keeps calling me back.

My Indy-mojo, however, is still weak and flat-lining...

Don't blame me, I tried to fuel the Indy V rumor mill.
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Ever felt Indy-weary? Or more specifically Raven-weary?
Sure. But in trying to create something new I usually come across something that gets the adrenaline running again!

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I descended into the decadence of posting silly pictures and poking fun at silly threads.
I've posted all sorts of crazy things to mix it up, some good, some not so. When the non-Indy stuff begins to flood The Raven...

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Then I was going to give up on this place, and break the addiction. But it keeps calling me back.
What's the draw?

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My Indy-mojo, however, is still weak and flat-lining...
You have to contribute more...
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Sure. But in trying to create something new I usually come across something that gets the adrenaline running again!

That's a fact. You never know what's going to kick-start the interest again.

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I've posted all sorts of crazy things to mix it up, some good, some not so. When the non-Indy stuff begins to flood The Raven...

That's when the decadent mood kicks in - I feel the urge to create chaos. There are times when all the hot subjects are so completely estranged from the purpose of the Raven, that I wonder what I'm doing here. Not that a little bit of the other isn't welcome!

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What's the draw?

There's an elite band of dedicated Indy fans, with fascinating and funny things to share. It makes it hard to stay away too long.

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You have to contribute more...

Like pushing my daily post count above 8?
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I certainly don't recognize this from the film, but there's the necktie. The page that it came from doesn't say anything specific about it.

The only scene that it looks like is the part where he whips onto Sr.'s leg while they are on the tank, but there wasn't any foliage in that shot.
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I certainly don't recognize this from the film, but there's the necktie. The page that it came from doesn't say anything specific about it.

The only scene that it looks like is the part where he whips onto Sr.'s leg while they are on the tank, but there wasn't any foliage in that shot.

It's only a publicity shot, maybe taken on location like this one.


And by the way, here is a bigger one of yours plus a bonus.



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Ahh, ok.
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