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Old 11-21-2011, 01:33 PM   #51
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30 films were used.
Mistake. It's actually *31* films. I've been compiling footage to do a shot-by-shot comparison of the truck chase in "Raiders" and noticed that a title was missing from the list of films used for the 1st one.

2 shots of the plane in the air were taken from the serial, "The Phantom Creeps" (1939). Just in case anyone wanted to know.
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Old 11-21-2011, 01:48 PM   #52
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Mistake. It's actually *31* films. I've been compiling footage to do a shot-by-shot comparison of the truck chase in "Raiders" and noticed that a title was missing from the list of films used for the 1st one.

2 shots of the plane in the air were taken from the serial, "The Phantom Creeps" (1939). Just in case anyone wanted to know.

I look forward to seeing your version of the truck chase.

(You're going to be spoilt for choice when it comes to the car going over the cliff!)
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Old 11-21-2011, 03:11 PM   #53
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I look forward to seeing your version of the truck chase.
good cos its gonna b totaly awesomingly EPIC!!!!!!!!
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(You're going to be spoilt for choice when it comes to the car going over the cliff!)
No kidding, Smiff! Trying to choose what to use for that shot is proving difficult because there are way too many contenders! Lots of cars going over cliffs but I'm on the lookout for a jeep...Know of any?
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Old 11-21-2011, 03:23 PM   #54
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good cos its gonna b totaly awesomingly EPIC!!!!!!!!

It's gonna be an epic win when da Innia Joans guy does all dat cool stuff!

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No kidding, Smiff! Trying to choose what to use for that shot is proving difficult because there are way too many contenders! Lots of cars going over cliffs but I'm on the lookout for a jeep...Know of any?

Haven't seen a jeep yet. Just cars and one truck.
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Old 11-21-2011, 03:47 PM   #55
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It's gonna be an epic win when da Innia Joans guy does all dat cool stuff!
no boubt smif its gonna b reely reely cool!!!!!! i mean like epicly cool!
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Haven't seen a jeep yet. Just cars and one truck.
Incidentally, I found vintage footage of the both the same jeep & truck from "Raiders" in the well-known, "World At War", documentary series.

Re: #of films...The shot of 'Indy' landing in the water was taken from, "Tarzan's Secret Treasure" (1941), but the original source is, "Tarzan, The Ape Man" (1932).
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Old 11-22-2011, 10:10 AM   #56
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I look forward to seeing your version of the truck chase.
Harumph!!

What a great project...can't wait till you stitch it all together! The adaptation is one thing but that would be a great film to tour...imagine the Q&A!
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Old 11-23-2011, 11:23 AM   #57
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the opening sequence which blew me away in 1981 and continues to do the same today.
Same here, yet I never realised how much of it was inspired was the old movies.

Really makes for great viewing, thanks for sharing it.
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Old 11-24-2011, 07:25 AM   #58
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I just figured out that it's possible to download your movie from Vimeo, so now I can watch it at leisure (again and again!) without having to think about my broadband usage limit.

Yore movie dat you made is an oresome epic!
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Old 11-25-2011, 03:11 PM   #59
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Harumph!!

What a great project...can't wait till you stitch it all together! The adaptation is one thing but that would be a great film to tour...imagine the Q&A!
"Harumph" to Montana? Why?

Thanks, Rocket. I would love to do the entire film but the opening of the Ark would be nearly impossible to duplicate shot-for-shot. Instead, I've decided to concentrate on sequences that are manageable. (I've got a long list from all 4 films with the motorboat chase from "Crusade" being the easiest!)

Touring the finished product would be interesting but it wouldn't hold a candle to what "The Adaptation" guys achieved. That said, I wonder what Spielberg & Lucas would think if they saw this?
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Same here, yet I never realised how much of it was inspired was the old movies.

Really makes for great viewing, thanks for sharing it.
My pleasure, Andy, The inspiration is clear but note that a few similarities were forced by cutting between different sources, flipping images & other editing tricks. While it's apparent that you are well educated in old movies, I'm reminded of a post from a certain someone who referred to my video:

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Of the films I raided, NONE of them had walls shooting arrows/spears/darts. It just looks that way (and those clips weren't even from the serials so that guy was totally fooled and way off target). Not mention that clips of the "fedora clad adventurer being chased by a giant boulder" weren't from a serial, either.
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I just figured out that it's possible to download your movie from Vimeo, so now I can watch it at leisure (again and again!) without having to think about my broadband usage limit.
That's nice to know, Smiffy, and is quite the compliment. (You can also download it from YouTube.)
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Yore movie dat you made is an oresome epic!
Im reely glad yoo tink so. Stay tooned for Innina Joans wit da truck!
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Old 01-02-2012, 12:52 PM   #60
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Stoo's project was featured on BoingBoing and io9 today.

Interestingly, the link was via http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2012...lost-lawsuits/ which gives it as an example of how Big Media's War on Culture affects derivative works. No, not Stoo's use of clips, but Lucas and Spielberg's homages.

If Jungle Jim's copyright holders were on the ball they could have made some pretty penny off the whip swing in Last Crusade.

Anyway, welcome to the "BoingBoinged Club", Stoo!
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Stoo's project was featured on BoingBoing and io9 today.

Interestingly, the link was via http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2012...lost-lawsuits/ which gives it as an example of how Big Media's War on Culture affects derivative works. No, not Stoo's use of clips, but Lucas and Spielberg's homages.

If Jungle Jim's copyright holders were on the ball they could have made some pretty penny off the whip swing in Last Crusade.

Anyway, welcome to the "BoingBoinged Club", Stoo!

And from Rocket's heads-up, also here.

Stoo's going viral!
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Old 01-06-2012, 01:56 AM   #62
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Stoo's going viral!
So there I was, on New Year’s Eve, at a friend’s cottage deep in the backwoods of the Muskoka region in northern Ontario. After stepping outside for a smoke, I decided to check my e-mail, turned on my phone’s data-roaming and started receiving tonnes of messages from YouTube about my “Archives” video. What the hell?

A couple of days later, Rocket Surgeon and Sakis both informed me that a few websites had picked it up. When I finally got back to civilization with a proper internet connection, I was overwhelmed with the amount of YouTube feedback and the number of websites that were reporting it.

Considering the video was uploaded to YouTube on 29 Dec. 2010, it’s funny that it started to take off almost exactly 1 year later on 31 Dec. 2011. In less than a week, there have been approx. 192,000 views! It has now spread to so many different websites that I can’t keep track. Though, with the good comes the bad. There is a fair amount of negative feedback and I’m even getting “hate mail”!

An Australian news site asked for an interview and a Spanish TV station wants to do a segment about my video. Yee-HAW!
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So there I was, on New Year’s Eve, at a friend’s cottage deep in the backwoods of the Muskoka region in northern Ontario. After stepping outside for a smoke, I decided to check my e-mail, turned on my phone’s data-roaming and started receiving tonnes of messages from YouTube about my “Archives” video. What the hell?

A couple of days later, Rocket Surgeon and Sakis both informed me that a few websites had picked it up. When I finally got back to civilization with a proper internet connection, I was overwhelmed with the amount of YouTube feedback and the number of websites that were reporting it.

Considering the video was uploaded to YouTube on 29 Dec. 2010, it’s funny that it started to take off almost exactly 1 year later on 31 Dec. 2011. In less than a week, there have been approx. 192,000 views! It has now spread to so many different websites that I can’t keep track. Though, with the good comes the bad. There is a fair amount of negative feedback and I’m even getting “hate mail”!

An Australian news site asked for an interview and a Spanish TV station wants to do a segment about my video. Yee-HAW!

Congratulations on your well deserved success. Even though it took a year for people to realize what you'd achieved!

Ignore the negatives. It's inevitable.

All impetus to finish your other projects.
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Old 01-06-2012, 09:46 AM   #64
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An Australian news site asked for an interview and a Spanish TV station wants to do a segment about my video. Yee-HAW!
Chance to see the Spanish incarnation of the Indy Exhibit?

Man I would love one of those shirts en español, Estuart!

Can't wait to hear how it pans out...
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Spoiler alert? Raiders fan recreates Lucas's Lost Ark from cinema's Lost Archives


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EVER watched a movie and thought, "I've seen that before somewhere"?

Stuart Pittman has - 30 times.

And that's just in the one movie. One of his all-time favourites, in fact - the legendary Lucas/Spielberg adventure blockbuster Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Released in 1981 and nominated for nine Oscars, it became one of the highest grossing films of all time and was universally hailed as the new benchmark in adventure movies.

"There's more excitement in the first ten minutes of Raiders than any movie I have seen all year," one critic claimed at the time.

But according to Pittman, Dr Jones' initial romp through the jungle "borrows" more than its fair share of sequences from a rich history of cinematic lost civilisations.

To prove it, the Canadian-born multimedia artist stitched together scenes from 30 different adventure films made between 1919 and 1973 to recreate the opening 15 minutes of Raiders of the Lost Ark.


It took Pittman 20 years to source the films. Another two years were spent compiling Raiders of the Lost Archives.

"Seeing Secret of the Incas on late-night TV around 1991 was the trigger moment," he told news.com.au

"Throughout the '90s, I put together some crude versions on VHS and the idea blossomed from there.

"In 2003, I began transferring my film collection to DVD but only decided to start assembling source footage for the digital version of the montage around the start of 2008."

Due to the fickle nature of YouTube stardom, Pittman's effort was also almost lost to the archives.

It's been online at Vimeo since February 2010, then was uploaded to YouTube 10 months later.

But it wasn't until a week ago that it was outed by one of the bigger online tech sites when the YouTube hits began to grow.

Along with the inevitable stream of hate.

Of the critics, Pittman said he was most saddened by those who used his project - which he sees as an homage - as a springboard to further disdain towards Lucas and Spielberg.

He's been called a Lucas hater - which he categorically denies - and told his video is "forced", "manipulating" and "idiotic".

"It's sad to see that my intent is backfiring in some respects and has generated yet another controversy between plagiarism and homage," he said.

"It didn't receive any criticism when I first shared it with the hardcore Indy fans at The Raven message forum."

Pittman describes himself as a "huge" RotLA fan. He went back to cinema for repeated viewings in 1981 and has collected filmed and printed memorabilia ever since.

So was he ever concerned about taking the shine off a cinematic legend?

Not at all, he said, claiming the "overwhelming majority" of feedback for his effort was positive.

"The project was nothing more than my love letter to Raiders and the films which influenced it," he said.

"I am not trying to expose the film-makers as 'copycat hacks' (as one person described)."

He's about to release a list of the 30 movies he used in the project - all but one of which are in his personal collection, on his YouTube channel, StooTV.

And despite the Indy fan-rage, he's plugging on, working on a side-by-side comparison of the truck chase from RotLA and several scenes from the other Indy films.

Until then, Pittman recommends Indy fans spend some time checking out the full-length versions of the films he spliced sequences from for Raiders of the Lost Archives.

His top three?

"King Solomon's Mines (1937 version), Secret of the Incas and Valley of the Kings."

You know how to give an interview!
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Old 01-06-2012, 04:13 PM   #66
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You know how to give an interview!
Thanks, Rocket. The jounalist asked for a personal photo but he published the article before I got around to sending him one.

Couple of corrections, though:

1) "Valley of the Kings" was not used in the video but I recommended it to watch.
2) I never used the word, "borrows".
3) I didn't describe myself as a "huge" fan. (I may be tall but am not fat.) What I said was that "Raiders" made a HUGE impact on me.

It was also a good opportunity to advertise The Raven so I slipped in a mention and it made the final print!
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Someone even wrote, "I hate you!".
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Nice one, Stewie!

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The jounalist asked for a personal photo but he published the article before I got around to sending him one.
You should send the one on the camel in front of the pyramids...would show you're not some translucent shut-in.

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Someone even wrote, "I hate you!".
How great is that? A thread is in order...
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How great is that? A thread is in order...



Publish the hate mail so we can laugh at those losers!
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You should send the one on the camel in front of the pyramids...would show you're not some translucent shut-in.
Yes, I was thinking of sending that photo. Especially after a commentator said that I had "no f*cking life".
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How great is that? A thread is in order...
A whole thread? Got any ideas for a name? I could just post the verbal diarrhea here.
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Publish the hate mail so we can laugh at those losers!
For starters:

Adeiko: "You just broke my heart about Indiana Jones. I hate you :'("

dstorfer: "That's such hater stuff. All those clips out of context."

m0rgi0n: "obvious hater is obvious"

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As of today: 225,000 views. That's just shy of a quarter million!
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I could just post the verbal diarrhea here.
For starters:

Adeiko: "You just broke my heart about Indiana Jones. I hate you :'("

dstorfer: "That's such hater stuff. All those clips out of context."

m0rgi0n: "obvious hater is obvious"

Ah, blessed are the ignorant.
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Poor Adeiko, imagine the illusions he entertains elsewhere in his life! Learning is difficult for some.
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Old 01-10-2012, 01:38 PM   #73
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The news headlines at the Raider.net has a short blurb about my interview.
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A look at Raiding the Lost Archeives and the man behind it... Someone folks at TheRaven know well http://t.co/rc8hhtWJ
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That's an honour! BIG THANKS to whoever is responsible (Mitch?) but it should say: 'Raiders of the Lost Archives'. (The title has been mixed up with Jamie Benning's 'Raiding the Lost Ark' documentary). Can it be fixed, please?

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Now here's something both insulting & amusing at the same time. One of the 1st websites to report my video was:
The Daily What by someone named, waxy, during the pm of Dec 31st.
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Supercut of the Day: Montrealer Stoo of StooTV spent the past two years meticulously splicing scenes from 30 different classic fims spanning over half a century to recreate the intro to Raiders of the Lost Ark, and then put together this shot-by-shot comparison.

Because, really — what else is there to do in Canada?
Canada-bashing aside, the closing comment is ridiculous since the video was put together in my spare time in SWITZERLAND and because, really - what else is there to do on NEW YEAR'S EVE besides write a blog about some geeky video? Cheap, scornful internet journalism.
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Today, another website has asked for an interview. The boulder is still rolling...

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For further reading pleasure, here are some more 'shining' YouTube comments:

Chesku: What a piece of sh*t.

kiepoolies: what a waste of your life

HilariousHyena: Wow, someone has no f*cking life.

branoar: thanks for wasting 13 minutes of my life.

shmutzdawg: this is the dumbest thing ive seen in a long time,,,and you wasted 20 yrs on this...what a turd
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Hope you can parley this into something more!

Those comments are fantastic! What a bunch on maroons! That stuff reminds me of the end of Jay and Bob Strike Back.

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