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Old 01-13-2012, 09:31 AM   #76
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shmutzdawg: this is the dumbest thing ive seen in a long time,,,and you wasted 20 yrs on this...what a turd

Raiders of the Lost Archives: Twenty years in the making.

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Old 01-13-2012, 09:48 AM   #77
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Raiders of the Lost Archives: Twenty years in the making.

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You said it much better!

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Those comments are fantastic! What a bunch on maroons!
Check out the comments from the 'these-people-don't-understand' category:

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Metexie: Nothing to see here. Move along folks.

Azishome: @StooTV Yeah, directors watch movies, singers listen to songs, and painters look at paintings, Artists have influences, that's how they learn!

shmutzdawg: why dont you rip apart the stones and the beatles now for ripping off every chuck berry and buddy holly lick...

NoobPwnr000: A logical side by side comparison? Heck no. “One guy jumps off a building, and Indiana jumps across a hole. SEE!! RIP OFF!!!”

FullazInTheHood: Maybe this would have been interesting had it been footage from one or two or even five films. But 30 films! I’m sure you could easily do the same for any modern masterpiece.

gentlefury: This is EXTREMELY flimsy! You could basically do this with any and all movies. Take a movie and cut together completely unrelated shots that look similar to said movie from movies that preceded it.

DynamicUnreality: So there are only so many ways to shoot people in the jungle walking away from the camera, or standing there with a donkey, of course the shots would look similar.

eduran1: Idk, they are trying too hard to prove something that I don't think is really there. You could probably do this with tons of other modern movies and get the same result.

branoar: if you know anything about editing it is very clear to see that it's all been idiotically edited to match every single shot, trying to prove something that's not true. if you find the original movie you'll see what I'm talking about.

Mrdayz: I appreciate the effort you've gone to, and maybe you have a point, but I, for one don't get it. Dialogue scenes, and groups of people (camel trains etc) walking though the shot are stock footage for many many movies. I'm sure, without too much trouble, you could have included LotR (or whatever the capitalisation should be) footage in the same comparison.

Ash*taka6: To StooTV: You've got clips from color movies (e.g. THE NAKED JUNGLE, SECRET OF THE INCAS, the 1950 version of KING SOLOMON'S MINES, the 1973 version of TRADER HORN) in your "archive" montage, but you show them all in black-and-white only. That's incredibly misleading. Why did you do that?

danielearwicker: It's worth noticing that very few of these scenes actually match up - the person who edited together the old clips has made more effort (and used more sophisticated technology) than went into the original films, slowing footage down or repeating it to create the appearance of a match.

How many old films don't contain the following elements: hats, men walking slowly, men talking, men running, a man putting something in a bag...? You could probably replace most of the footage with scenes from Sesame Street and get equally good matches, if you use the same range of editing techniques.

badrabbit0077: You can't be serious... If I made a movie about football and I put it side by side with other football movies, wouldn't you say I borrowed from those movies? Oh wait, what if I made a movie set in Japan, god forbid my movie should have any similarities to other movies made in Japan as well.

These are hardly evidence of imitation, similarities perhaps, but not imitation. It's like saying a shot of a person walking in a crowd of people was imitated from XXXX number of movies with the same shots.

awezoom:@StooTV I liked finding similar movies in style and with similar characters with the hat, the leather jacket or elements, like the rock ball, but the rest of the montage is too manipulative. You can find scenes in every movie similar to other movies, due to influence, or just because it's a cool way to show something. This would be a great montage if every material came from only one or two movies, but you've just looked bits of movies that just resemble the same scene in Indy, no matter who appears or what's happening in the other scene. Any person unfamiliar with this kind of videos or not very familiar with cinema will directly believe the indy movie was a complete rip-off of other movies, because they won't waste time trying to read the explanation about the video. They'll just get the idea 'Indy was completely copied from 30's movies, frame by frame'. And that's the problem of this video. It's getting popular and it will become part of the common knowledge.

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What makes me howl is the people who say that it would have been better if I had just used clips from 1 or 2 movies! "Raiders" is an amalgamation of MULTIPLE influences but, sadly, a fraction of folks are failing to fathom the entire purpose of the montage.
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:20 PM   #80
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What makes me howl is the people who say that it would have been better if I had just used clips from 1 or 2 movies! "Raiders" is an amalgamation of MULTIPLE influences but, sadly, a fraction of folks are failing to fathom the entire purpose of the montage.

And the moral of the story is, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them think!

They can't see that it isn't a literal transalation, but an indication of the broad homage to Raiders' cultural ancestors.

I was wowed by your work from the first viewing. Now that I've seen some of the footage in it's original context, it only makes it more special.
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:18 PM   #81
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It was also a good opportunity to advertise The Raven so I slipped in a mention and it made the final print!
Hmm. I wonder if it's coincidental that it seems like there's been a minor, but visible spike in the visitor stats over the past seven days...

Either way, the upkeep appreciates.
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:50 PM   #82
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They can't see that it isn't a literal transalation, but an indication of the broad homage to Raiders' cultural ancestors.

I was wowed by your work from the first viewing. Now that I've seen some of the footage in it's original context, it only makes it more special.
Thanks, Smiff. Most viewers understand this and it's pleasing to know that the overwhelming majority of comments are positive and praising. For the moment, I'm posting the negative stuff because it's so hilarious.

Here are some weird ones (from the 'I've-never-seen-Raiders-of-the-Lost-Ark' category):

goodmaro: If the film on the left was deliberately blocked scene by scene as a pastiche of those on the right, then that was an excellent job that must've taken a lot more work than to do an original film. If I ever see "Raiders of the Lost Ark" at full length, now I'll appreciate it better, thanks.

Dukefrukem: 31 people would have looked into the Ark of the Covenant*
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Hmm. I wonder if it's coincidental that it seems like there's been a minor, but visible spike in the visitor stats over the past seven days...

Either way, the upkeep appreciates.
Could be a coincidence. We may never know...but...in the advertising world, a little word-of-mouth can go a long way.
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Old 01-31-2012, 03:54 PM   #83
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It's been exactly 1 month since my video was 'discovered' by various websites. Presently, it has received 264,515 views but it hit the quarter of a million mark in 16 days. (A fairly, modest number but I'm happy with it.)

The Australian interviewer asked: "Were you ever concerned you might be part of destroying - or at least taking the shine off - a cinematic legend?"

To which I answered, "No, not at all." because I figured the target audience (Indy fans) would understand the point. Nonetheless, the Spielberg & Lucas bashing STILL continues (with most recent remark being made yesterday).

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quickP76: I think is worse than when I was 11 and realized the Bible was just a retelling of older stories.

I realize it was a homage but c’mon, where’s the line between homage and plagiarism here?

Occido70: Oh Lucas..you’re the most unoriginal film maker of all time.

erikj: To think that Speilberg copied from the old films reflecs that hes not as creative and original as where are lead to believe.

therealfatNINJA: Remember this video every time a corporation goes after someone that’s sampled something.

Dummy00001: Unbelievable! Unthinkable!

Lucas must be sued out of business immediately for such gross copyright infringement!!!

SuperLAFF: los “reciclajes” de Spielberg (the “recycling” of Spielberg)

signboy: spielberg is a thief who lacks imagination and innovation

SottileGioia: I knew Indiana Jones movies were supposed to be a tribute to old adventure movies, but, wow, this is too much.

AntonSlizzardhands: Inspiration or stealing?

Dea0X: Shows that copyright and inspiration really don’t like each other very much.

MrTrex01: The little respect I had for George Lucas is now gone. Trust me when I say, "We will be better off without him."

pensftmfw: Hollywood has never cared about originality anyway. Steven you biter! lol

jake42789: IMDb tells me there’s a character in Raiders of Ghost City called Idaho Jones. Smooth move, Spielberg.

Koiler8: I know your a Spielberg/Lucas fan, but it's sooooo obvious he cloned (pun intended) this one. Down to the title even.

mamece2: so.. the entire movie is a TRIBUTE.. right..

docatomics: ...plagiarism begats plagiarism
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maadyl: Do you copy exact Music Scores,exact paintings,exact texts ? This is just a "Plagiat"

Sprawler3: @StooTV but if i make a movie that looks EXACTLY like "xxx2" i can't say i've been influenced by "xxx2", then i've COPIED "xxx2".....

ereunloko: That's not an influence, that's plagiarism, It's way too similar.

Chorisaurio: It is not surprising coming from a *** like Spielberg. They all do the same way: first they copy, then claim it is their invention. They aren't able to create anything. Their so celebrated 'intelligence' is only a myth.

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And, finally...la pièce de résistance...from the brilliant mind of Mr. VexT916 (posted yesterday):

VexT916: Geez, bunch of ignorant morons on youtube. Don't you people get the subliminal behind this post? It's not just to merely venerate or revere Spielberg's ass, but it actually exposes the fact that he plagiarized and copied many scenes from older movies to make Raiders of the Lost Ark, which is not inspiration at all but mimicry. It just goes to show he is not talented and original in creativity as the media spins him to be and that he's just another initiated goon for the Hollywood establishment.

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It's incredible to think there are so many people who still don't know (thirty years on) what Lucas was doing when he made Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark.

The connections between his films and the earlier serials have, I'm sure, been reported from the beginning. I remember reading the name Flash Gordon in relation to Star Wars in the late '70s. And it should be no surprise that there was a Flash Gordon movie in 1980, and a cartoon series on TV.

The same can be said of Indy's connections to ealier forms.
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Old 05-20-2012, 07:43 PM   #85
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So that's you who made that Stoo? Very well done! My Dad and I watched it just before I joined the forum recently.
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Old 05-30-2012, 05:03 PM   #86
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So that's you who made that Stoo? Very well done! My Dad and I watched it just before I joined the forum recently.
Happy to hear that you & your dad liked it, HenryJunior! For any new Raven members who haven't seen it, here is the YouTube link:

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Next up on deck is the TRUCK CHASE from "Raiders"! I've managed to replicate most of its key sequences but am constantly on the quest for more parallels...
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Old 05-30-2012, 05:24 PM   #87
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Just watched this today. I'm unfamiliar with all the old movies and this was a treat to watch. The hard work is appreciated.

Oh some guy named Cptjacksparrow80 just posted and he seems to like it...a lot
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:57 PM   #88
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@stoo: Awesome job. It really looks like it took a while. The attention to detail is incredible. The use of lighting, smoke, etc. It's just great. I've always appreciated the comic book style / serial look of the Indy movies, this really emphasis that. Makes your compilation and the raiders movie look good.
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Old 07-26-2012, 01:46 AM   #89
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Just watched this today. I'm unfamiliar with all the old movies and this was a treat to watch. The hard work is appreciated.

Oh some guy named Cptjacksparrow80 just posted and he seems to like it...a lot
Glad that you enjoyed it, Marshall. Hopefully, it will inspire you to watch some of the oldies (but goodies)!

Yes, the Cptjacksparrow80 comment was pretty complimentary. He said, "Best. Video. Ever!"
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@stoo: Awesome job. It really looks like it took a while. The attention to detail is incredible. The use of lighting, smoke, etc. It's just great. I've always appreciated the comic book style / serial look of the Indy movies, this really emphasis that. Makes your compilation and the raiders movie look good.
Thank you very much, Russ. Some shots were such perfect matches, they were begging to be compared side-by-side with "Raiders"! Synchronizing them was the fun part.

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The Australian interviewer asked: "Were you ever concerned you might be part of destroying - or at least taking the shine off - a cinematic legend?"


Stoo, he's no one I know down here!
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Here's the latest, moronic comment to be made (3 hours ago):

mullaleo85: Steven Stealberg jewish theif

Pass me the hookah before my blood starts to boil...
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Here's the latest, moronic comment to be made (3 hours ago):

mullaleo85: Steven Stealberg jewish theif

Pass me the hookah before my blood starts to boil...

What a racist thicko!
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Old 04-01-2013, 12:26 PM   #93
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Thumbs up "The New Yorker" magazine mentions my video!

I was wondering why there was a recent increase of views, comments & subscriptions to my YouTube channel over the past week. Thanks to some heads-up news from Pale Horse, now I know why.

A few days ago (27 March), my video was mentioned by the long-running magazine, "The New Yorker"! Its on-line version has an article about the "Raiders" story conference in 1978 between Lucas, Spielberg & Kasdan...and the writer gives a shout out to my work, calling it "astounding" & "well worth watching"! This is pleasing praise to read from such a prestigious publication.

Patrick Radden Keefe of "The New Yorker":
"(If you want a further sense of what a clever pastiche of earlier films “Raiders” ended up becoming, and haven’t seen this astounding supercut, it is well worth watching.)"


http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...ors_picks=true

The link in that blurb connects to another website (Blastr.com), which says:
"13 minute supercut reveals Spielberg’s Raiders inspirations

Ever have that strange sense of déjà vu watching Spielberg's Raiders of the Lost Ark? Well, somebody else did, too, and matched up mirror images from vintage Lost City serials and paired them side by side to compare. The result will give you jungle fever and have you seeing double for days.

YouTube maestro StooTV collected shots and scenes from 30 adventure films of the golden age, spanning the years 1919-1973, and married them to the same scenes in Indy. The shot-by-shot union is visual verbatim at its best. Check it out…"


http://www.blastr.com/2012/01/13-min...cut-reveal.php

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There are a lot of on-line articles about the video but for it to be mentioned by "The New Yorker" (more than 2 years after I uploaded it) is pretty cool, if you ask me.

P.S. "The New Yorker" is a weekly publication. Does anyone know if this was printed in the actual, PAPER edition?
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Wow, congratulations. What an wonderful appreciation for your hard work and passion by a magazine as prestigious as "The New Yorker".

I have a friend (in NYC... dah!) who is subscribed to the print edition of "New Yorker". I will ask to investigate the issues around late March for you.

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Nice one, Stewie!

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P.S. "The New Yorker" is a weekly publication. Does anyone know if this was printed in the actual, PAPER edition?

I'm a subscriber. It doesn't appear so. The most recent issue was dated March 25, and the piece online is dated March 26. It'd most likely have been in the "Talk of the Town" section, a portion near the beginning with short pieces of roughly the length of this one, or slightly shorter. It's not there.
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Quick word I receive back from my friend confirms Attila's finding. But he will go through it page by page tomorrow again.
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Awesome, congratulations! It is a fine piece of work. I find that work like this, when there's passion, hard work, and talent put into them, they get noticed...it may take a while, but they will get noticed. Awesome job!
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Attila & Archaeos: I sincerely appreciate your prompt investigations, guys. Maybe it's in this week's issue? (Come to think of it, even if the article was in the printed edition, there'd be no reason to include the mention since a link to the video would be useless on paper!)

Russds: Thank you, buddy. Wouldn't it be great if this article managed to get Spielberg or Lucas to notice/watch it?

Montana Smiff: A part of me wishes that I had waited a little longer to assemble the thing because I'm continually finding better matches. As one example; Barranca's gun (which you just bought a replica of) falling into the water. For that shot, I used a Zulu/Bantu axe-head falling to the ground (from the 1937 version of "King Solomon's Mines") because I was desperate to finish and didn't have anything better in mind. Since then, I found a revolver hitting the ground and falling into some water from an episode of the serial, "King of the Mounties" and it's a perfect match!
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A part of me wishes that I had waited a little longer to assemble the thing because I'm continually finding better matches.
You could always upload a new addition, and if you do...

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