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Old 02-23-2008, 07:59 PM   #26
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Toht was originally conceived to have a mechanical arm that fired bullets.
Don't believe it? Check out some of the storyboards and pre-production art for "Raiders".

I'm glad they didn't go for that approach
It would be good for another movie, but not an Indy one
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Old 02-23-2008, 08:29 PM   #27
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overall I thought that most of the Monkey King script was pretty ridiculous, espescially twards the end. But for some reason I really like the concept of the haunted castle intro. I think it could've worked really well in an Indy movie as long as they steered clear of any cheesey Scooby Doo cliche`s
Same with saucermen, it had some really cool ideas for scenes but overall felt weak.
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Old 02-23-2008, 08:49 PM   #28
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I'm glad they didn't go for that approach
It would be good for another movie, but not an Indy one
We say that now but if it had originally been in the movie...who knows?

For more on the subject:
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Old 02-23-2008, 08:58 PM   #29
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Whoa, a three year old thread
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Old 05-28-2008, 03:42 PM   #30
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I knew the tree in KotCS seemed familiar...
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Scraggy, Clare, Betsy, Kezure and the others, emit a UNIFIED SIGH OF RELIEF. But the tree suddenly CRACKS. It TILTS. FALLING OVER THE RAVINE EDGE! Everyone SCREAMS! There is the sudden CRACK OF A WHIP! The whip WRAPS ITSELF around the trunk of the tree. Indiana HOLDS the opposite end. He PULLS with all of his strength. HOLDING the tree in place.
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Old 05-28-2008, 03:46 PM   #31
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Wow, I thought Kingdom script was bad. This Monkey King crap makes it look like Raiders.
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Old 05-29-2008, 03:17 PM   #32
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Why would Chris Columbus even be approached to write an Indy film!? If you check out his writing credentials on IMDB they're not exactly inspiring. Just because he wrote 'The Goonies' doesn't mean he has the chops for writing a great adventure (which that movie wasn't, even though it was a lot of fun). His Indiana Jones and the Planet Of The Apes script makes Mutt's monkey swing look like a work of genius!
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Old 06-24-2008, 12:46 AM   #33
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According to the Complete Making Of book:
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In Columbus's second draft, Betsy is gone, while a new character named Dash, the expat who owns the bar, is the chief villain, with the Nazis working for him. In the Lost City, Indy meets Sun Wu Kung, a not-very-nice simian Monkey King. Jones must play a game of chess against Dash using real people as the pieces; when someone is eliminated, Kung disintegrates them with his magic Golden Rod. After a series of confrontations, Kung brings the dead back to life to pursue Indy. They turn Dash into a ghost, but Indy breaks the rod, escapes, and marries Clare.
Whoa, Indy married? In the 1980's?! Take that, sunset.
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Old 06-25-2008, 01:02 AM   #34
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I don't believe I saw it earlier in the thread, so here is the script itself:
http://download.yousendit.com/6189D45F70A6DF26
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Old 06-25-2008, 04:44 PM   #35
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I remember when I printed the article on theraider.net about the lost or discarded scripts for Indy I remember read the part about the Monkey King and I was in bed and I must say it was a nice bedtime story. Ok so some of the parts are a bit outlandish but its exciting nonetheless I do agree whoever said this would be better for another movie not a Indy film.
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Old 06-25-2008, 04:57 PM   #36
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What's wrong with George Lucas? Seriously, what is wrong with him?
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Old 06-27-2008, 02:14 PM   #37
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Old 06-27-2008, 03:42 PM   #38
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I didn't read the entire script, but for some strange reason I found Betsy to be funny. I mean, I couldn't see her working in an Indy movie for real (her character felt like a cheesy 80's TV show type of character), but I still found myself chuckling at her antics. Especially when she tries to kill herself in Indy's office or classroom or whatever. Dumb sense of humor sometimes.

But the script was pretty bad from what I read. I never got to the end.
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Old 06-28-2008, 03:50 AM   #39
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overall I thought that most of the Monkey King script was pretty ridiculous, espescially twards the end. But for some reason I really like the concept of the haunted castle intro. I think it could've worked really well in an Indy movie as long as they steered clear of any cheesy Scooby Doo cliches.

I actually agree with this. I saw potential for this to crop up in Indy IV until early May, I think. If they make a fifth, we're going to see this as a father/son fishing trip. You heard it here first.
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Old 06-28-2008, 01:37 PM   #40
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That's a title doomed from the outset.

"Monkey" is comedy word and "The Monkey King" is that lame bit Mike Myers does where he humps a bunch of bananas in the supermarket with his pants around his ankles and his tidy whities showing in the long-awaited "Wayne's World 3" from 2012, the film Myers resorted to doing after the abysmal string of flops starting with The Cat in the Hat" and "The Love Guru." The Monkey King signaled the end of civiliztion as we knew it.
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Old 07-03-2008, 11:08 AM   #41
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i didnt hate the monkey king script,
but it is far from perfect. i do dig the haunted mansion part of it all...
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Old 07-03-2008, 11:18 AM   #42
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Mac was in the beginning wasn't he?
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:15 PM   #43
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Mac was in the beginning wasn't he?

yeah or at least some1 w/the same name
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:07 AM   #44
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yeah or at least some1 w/the same name

No, it was a Scotsman with full-on accent, possibly in a kilt - a local, at any rate. Don't see our Mac settling down to be a cop out on the moors.
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Old 08-19-2008, 09:59 AM   #45
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What's wrong with George Lucas? Seriously, what is wrong with him?
Why does he get blamed for everything? He didn't write this script! And besides he obviously rejected it anyway!
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:42 AM   #46
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Why does he get blamed for everything? He didn't write this script! And besides he obviously rejected it anyway!

Lucas was merely biding his time with this farrago. The crystal skull was always going to be the focus of Indy 4, and Ol' George had this written merely to make the eventual 'working' screenplay seem somewhat better in comparison. Not by much, though. Spielberg is equally culpable, too.

http://www.filmstalker.co.uk/archive...e_controv.html

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..."I discovered a McGuffin," continues Lucas, still reluctant to name said McGuffin. "I told the guys about it and they were a little dubious about it, but it’s the best one we’ve ever found… Unfortunately, it was a little too ‘connected’ for the others. They were afraid of what the critics would think.
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Old 08-19-2008, 05:32 PM   #47
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Lucas was merely biding his time with this farrago. The crystal skull was always going to be the focus of Indy 4, and Ol' George had this written merely to make the eventual 'working' screenplay seem somewhat better in comparison. Not by much, though. Spielberg is equally culpable, too.

http://www.filmstalker.co.uk/archive...e_controv.html

You ole' cynic...
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Old 08-19-2008, 05:51 PM   #48
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i do dig the haunted mansion part of it all...

Yeah that was the best part, a leftover from when Indy3 was supposed to be entirely about a haunted castle before Spielberg rejected it. The story goes that Diane Thomas (of Romancing the Stone fame) was hired to write the haunted mansion draft before her death. I don't know if the script was ever actually written though.

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By the way, a note of caution to those who categorically claim that "Kingdom..." will be perfectly crafted by Spielberg and saved from everything which appears bad and which is obviously Lucas's fault: Steven Spielberg loved the Monkey King script, while George Lucas was not ecstatic about it. Consider that.

While I do remember Spielberg saying good things about this script (possibly just to be nice), I also remember him saying that he did not want to direct it.
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Old 08-19-2008, 06:06 PM   #49
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Lucas was merely biding his time with this farrago. The crystal skull was always going to be the focus of Indy 4, and Ol' George had this written merely to make the eventual 'working' screenplay seem somewhat better in comparison. Not by much, though. Spielberg is equally culpable, too.

http://www.filmstalker.co.uk/archive...e_controv.html

I haven't checked the link, so maybe it's told you something that it hasn't told me, but Monkey King was never considered for Indy IV, only Indy III. The tank sequence, boat sequence, and emphasis on eternal life/rapid aging make that pretty clear.
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Old 08-19-2008, 06:14 PM   #50
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All I am saying is I much prefer the Last Crusade to this.
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