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Old 04-20-2014, 07:07 PM   #51
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Did you know that the tavern for this show is still at Universal Studios? It's always been right next to where the Red Sea parts. Seems pretty appropriate.

Watch out for that island!
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Old 04-20-2014, 11:28 PM   #52
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The Monkey Bar is a great set, and I wish the monkey Jake picked up in the pilot was still roaming the bar in the later episodes. It would have been a nice little touch.
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- Monkey statue: It can be seen throughout the series sitting on the corner of the bar nears the stairs. Whenever there's a fight, someone takes it off the bar so it won't get smashed!
When Le Sab & I went for beers (at The Trappist in Oakland) he clarified that he didn't mean the monkey statue but the actual animal which crawls around the bar. My misinterpretation. In case anyone else is interested to know...

A memo on series continuity was issued to each episode's director and one of the rules reveals that the monkey was planned to be used again (and that it most likely belonged to a member of the Clipper's flight crew). It also stated that the monkey would never remain in the bar when Jack, the dog, comes in.

Don Baer:
"Jack and the monkey should never be photographed interacting in the bar scenes; when Jack enters the bar, the monkey always leaves. Keep in mind that the monkey is only to be included in bar scenes when the Clipper is in for a stop-over."

http://www.goldmonkey.com/infopage.html#memo
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Did you know that the tavern for this show is still at Universal Studios? It's always been right next to where the Red Sea parts. Seems pretty appropriate.

Watch out for that island!
Damn! I was there in '99 and didn't even realize how close I was to The Monkey Bar set. Can you go inside?

Watching the series again after all these years, it's shocking to see how much emphasis is placed on BEER! There are LOADS of drinking scenes, beer is discussed regularly in other parts (when there's no drinking going on) and one of the main characters, Corky, is an alcoholic.
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Old 05-11-2014, 06:36 AM   #53
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One thing I realized while watching the episodes again, all these years later, is that Bon Chance Louie was once part of the French Foreign Legion with the classic, adventure character, Beau Geste. In one episode, he mentions the Blue Water Sapphire jewel and, in another, he talks about being at Fort Zinderneuf!

I've just finished that episode! Episode IV -- Legends are Forever.

The nod to the Blue Water Sapphire & Beau Geste was a nice touch for fans of the genre, as was the obvious connection to H. Rider Haggard's King Solomon's Mines. In fact, this was probably closest the entire series has become to being a classic action-adventure tale -- hidden villages, lost treasures and tribes, and a fantastic treasure! There's even a rope bridge! Yet, it all gets neatly subverted at the end to keep true to the series' core direction.

For me though, the best touch about that episode was the implication that Louie (who's quickly becoming my favorite character) was on Everest with George Mallory! And he (Louie) doesn't get why Jake thinks that's surprising. Louie's reaction to Jake's questioning is great.

Brief back story: George Mallory was part of the first three expeditions to Mount Everest that the British mounted. He and his climbing partner, Andy Irvine, disappeared a mere 800 feet from the summit in 1924. Which would have made the pair the first to have ever scaled the peak, well before Hillary & Norgay stepped into the history books. Irvine's body has never been found, but a colleague was the lucky so and so who discovered Mallory's body in '99, 75 years after the climber's death.



The following episode is a nice homage to Papillon!

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When Le Sab & I went for beers (at The Trappist in Oakland) he clarified that he didn't mean the monkey statue but the actual animal which crawls around the bar. My misinterpretation. In case anyone else is interested to know...

Well, I thought I was pretty clear! I would have said statue if that's what I meant. Still, like you said, when Jake and Gandy Dancer* got into a scrap, Louie pulled the statue off the bar and gave it to Gushie. I would have preferred the monkey, but the blue & gold macaw has been amusing in his brief appearances.

Total bill for the damage: 920 francs!

* - Fun fact: Gandy Dancer is old railroad slang for the workers who laid and maintained the tracks.

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Damn! I was there in '99 and didn't even realize how close I was to The Monkey Bar set. Can you go inside?

I was wondering the same thing, but it only appears to be viewable from the tram ride through the backlot. It's been at least twenty years since I visited, but it appears to still be there as of 2009. Or, at least that's the most current reference I could find.

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...it's shocking to see how much emphasis is placed on BEER!

A man works up a powerful thirst after battling pirates and oversized monkeys! Oddly enough, TaleSpin has quite a few scenes in King Louie's bar/island thing. It's very odd for a cartoon, and especially a Disney cartoon.

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Huzzah! Now I can indoctrinate my spouse, who was a huge *Talespin* fan. And perhaps the offspring.

Speaking of TaleSpin, I did find the whole series on DVD for, like, twenty bucks rather recently. The packaging was better on the original release, but it was too nice a deal to pass up. I never did pick up the second season.

Anyway, it holds up remarkably well from a storytelling and characterization aspect. The animation is a bit dodgy in places, but I suspect that was part of the nineties' television budgetary constraints. I am rather amazed at how... "progressive" the show was when looking back on it all of these years later.

Spin it!



Idris Elba is going to have a lot to live up to.

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- Plane: It suits Jake's needs because he also flies passengers around. The cleanliness isn't too much of a problem because those Grumman Gooses were brand new back then.

It's not a deal breaker, but the latest and greatest bits of technology hardly wend their out to remote atolls so early in their lifespan. Something like a Beech 18 converted for seaplane use is what I imagine. Though, if they fail to make the joke "Jake, your Goose is cooked!" I'll be mildly annoyed. It's a perfect setup!

Imagine what a modern update could be like if it were on HBO or something. And with the distant rumblings of classic pulp characters making their way to the big screen again, Cutter's Goose could definitely fly again!
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Old 05-11-2014, 04:24 PM   #54
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The SFO Museum and Library - which I just discovered existed in the International Terminal, and am currently sitting in to kill some time - currently has an exhibit on the Pan Am Clipper service. Lots of lovely models, photos, and ephemera. Worth a look if you're passing through and not in a rush to get into the security line.

(Not sure why I posted in this thread.)
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:30 PM   #55
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The SFO Museum and Library - which I just discovered existed in the International Terminal, and am currently sitting in to kill some time - currently has an exhibit on the Pan Am Clipper service. Lots of lovely models, photos, and ephemera. Worth a look if you're passing through and not in a rush to get into the security line.

(Not sure why I posted in this thread.)

Well, there was a China Clipper in the series. Though, I'm now eight(?) episodes in and it has yet to make an on-screen appearance. So, it's thematically related!

For those of you who live too far away, or are in too much of a hurry while at the airport, you can see a nice sample of the exhibit at the museum's site -- Aviation Museum & Library: China Clipper. It's a continuous exhibit, so if you're ever passing through SFO do stop in and check it out.

In the meantime, check this out for historical perspective!



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...it's shocking to see how much emphasis is placed on BEER!

Rick's Café Américain is quite possibly the most famous bar that never existed, but bars/cafes/watering holes always seem to have a place in the action-adventure genre. The best ones attract a wide, international clientele. The Monkey Bar certainly has the potential, but ruminating on the topic reminded me of the largely forgotten Rocky Jordan's Café Tambourine in Cairo.

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This has been floating around my Netflix queue for quite some time, and I finally decided to bump it up to the top.

Done!

It's only taken a year, but I can finally put Tales of the Gold Monkey into my rear view. Yet, I'll come back to various episodes again. I'll even buy it.



I'll lay out some fuller thoughts later on, but I really enjoyed three-quarters of the series and found the remaining quarter to be quite hokey. Fun, but hokey. I would have left it out. Left out what you ask? All the Indiana Jones-like elements. They're completely unnecessary. Gold Monkey is at its best when it hews close to it's original inspiration; Only Angels Have Wings. Had they fleshed out that aspect and the surrounding environment under Japanese control Gold Monkey could have been a fabulous bit of television.
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Old 06-20-2017, 03:04 PM   #57
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I still love the show but after the Collins/7th Heaven Scandal, It's been hard to watch.
that being said it influenced some of my own stories through the years. here's an abridged Comic adaptation of the prologue to a story i wrote in High school







Someday i'll get around to telling more of the story. Another Day in the Pit is usually reserved for telling my own real-life misadventures but i ran into a rut last summer and wanted to the Pilot Island Adventures out there.
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