Montana Smith
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The book and the movie both passed right under my radar. I have no idea why.
They both sound very intriguing.
They both sound very intriguing.
Montana Smith said:The book and the movie both passed right under my radar. I have no idea why. They both sound very intriguing.
Rocket Surgeon said:Now the question is, which first? The Book or the film?
Rocket Surgeon said:...
But he does get
The girl
She was...and a Jersey Girl at that.Falcon said:Wasn't Irene Adler the only woman to have outwitted Sherlock Holmes?
Everyone brings their own baggage to the conversation...Finn said:...I find drawing some of these similarities to Raiders pretty blatant reaching.
Agreed, though not my intention, an interesting tangent. The object is to identify multiple common "tropes" and start thoughtful conversation. It ultimately is a challenge to express the tropes as they apply as specifically as you can to the two subjects. In this case, and the others you see floating around: Indiana Jones...we could be posting what we "8" instead!Finn said:After all, there does not need to be a conscious connection between two media pieces for them to evoke the same tropes...
Rocket Surgeon said:The object is to identify multiple common "tropes" and start thoughtful conversation.
...even if you thought "Irene's" gender ambiguous, how do you account for Lena Olin?
Rocket Surgeon said:Everyone brings their own baggage to the conversation...Agreed, though not my intention, an interesting tangent. The object is to identify multiple common "tropes" and start thoughtful conversation. It ultimately is a challenge to express the tropes as they apply as specifically as you can to the two subjects. In this case, and the others you see floating around: Indiana Jones
Pale Horse said:There's only 36 of them...but I like the 'thoughtful' conversations that follow....
It's not the pointlessness of the conversation that makes me arch my eyebrows, but the fact that threads like these tend to imply that a completely unrelated media piece X that simply invokes same tropes somehow "rips off" the core comparison material... in this case, Indiana Jones. It gives an especially silly appearance when the said core is far from original in itself.Rocket Surgeon said:The object is to identify multiple common "tropes" and start thoughtful conversation.
Well, now we have two kinds of cultural blindness implied in this thread...Montana Smith said:Maybe it's just not a Scandinavian thing.
Finn said:It's not the pointlessness of the conversation that makes me arch my eyebrows, but the fact that threads like these tend to imply that a completely unrelated media piece X that simply invokes same tropes somehow "rips off" the core comparison material... in this case, Indiana Jones. It gives an especially silly appearance when the said core is far from original in itself.
Finn said:Well, now we have two kinds of cultural blindness implied in this thread...
Emmanuelle Seigner looked better in the film, (I followed you), but he definitely "got" Liana Telfer too:Pale Horse said:...am I missing something.
Inspiration through brain stretching, and gets you thinking about Indiana Jones...a far better reason to stop by The Raven.*fart*Montana Smith said:Agreed. When you try to find connections, even if they are wildly drawn, you never know what else comes to mind.
I don't know if you've read the book, so until I do, I'll liken it to your opinion of WikiLeaks policy...after all Indiana Jones, to my surprise, was referenced by name...in the book. One man's "rip-off" is another's "homage," your assertion that the examples are simply storytelling devices and conventions, while naturally applicable to a story told in any film is a narrow view and hardly inclusive of every example and what is being aspired to. A disclaimer might eliminate the topic of rip-off from being a natural conversational evolution. Queue:Finn said:...but the fact that threads like these tend to imply that a completely unrelated media piece X that simply invokes same tropes somehow "rips off" the core comparison material... in this case, Indiana Jones.
...and like Finn points out regarding the nature of Indy himself: influenced.Montana Smith said:I see them as quirky similarities, and not always blatant rip-offs.
I have, and I recall the reference. Please note, that I've not once claimed the participants of this particular discussion are thinking "Club Dumas" or "the Ninth Gate" are a ripoff of Indiana Jones.Rocket Surgeon said:I don't know if you've read the book, so until I do, I'll liken it to your opinion of WikiLeaks policy.
Finn said:Let's call it a preventive measure protecting an uneducated individual from the wrath of a mod who hasn't yet had his morning coffee.
Finn said:I find drawing some of these similarites to Raiders pretty blatant reaching.
Finn said:Same naturally goes for the other threads of the same ilk we see floating around.
Finn said:It's not the pointlessness of the conversation that makes me arch my eyebrows, but the fact that threads like these tend to imply that a completely unrelated media piece X that simply invokes same tropes somehow "rips off" the core comparison material... in this case, Indiana Jones.
Finn said:It gives an especially silly appearance when the said core is far from original in itself.
Finn said:I find drawing some of these similarites to Raiders pretty blatant reaching.
Finn said:It's not the pointlessness of the conversation that makes me arch my eyebrows, but the fact that threads like these tend to imply that a completely unrelated media piece X that simply invokes same tropes somehow "rips off" the core comparison material... in this case, Indiana Jones.
Rocket Surgeon said:
If calling it pointless and silly didn't...no I don't think so.Finn said:Did I kill this thread now?