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Old 06-09-2012, 01:33 AM   #76
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So you wouldn't like Stoo's Old Indiana Jones Chronicles.



But you'd probably like Hemble's great custom Mystery of the Blues Indy.

His whole thread is worth a good look.

Is Montana actually Stoo! Prephaps they had a Freaky Friday moment!
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Old 06-09-2012, 02:02 AM   #77
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Is Montana actually Stoo! Prephaps they had a Freaky Friday moment!


Okay, I admit it. I tried on his pith helmet and something weird happened...
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:13 PM   #78
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I loved the series. I mean, look at my user name!

I thought the years with him as a kid were okay, but once SPF stepped into the role the series really took off for me. I loved most of those adventures, especially all the stuff in WWI. Oganga the Giver and Taker of Life was probably my favorite, but there were a ton of them I enjoyed, like Phantom Train of Doom, Attack of the Hawkmen, Trenches of Hell and Masks of Evil. It was cool to get so much insight into Indy's formative years.
Welcome to The Raven, WWI Era Indy! You have good taste. From what you've written, I can tell that you must have first seen the series on DVD which makes me all the more happy that they were released. It's always nice to hear of more people appreciating the show.
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I loved the Young Indy series. I didn't like the hideous, grissled, old Indy that introduced several of the earlier episodes in the original television run, so I was happy to see that he was omitted in boxed sets. Seeing Harrison Ford introduce "The Mystery of the Blues" was such a treat and I'd love to customize a 12 inch figure to look as Ford did in that episode. If I had to pick a favorite episode, I would say it is "Attack of the Hawkmen", which also has the best DVD history docs. The trench battles in this series were the most epic I'd ever seen and would have been just as incredible if it were seen on the big screen. I liked the guest stars, too. When Catherine Zeta-Jones made her steamy appearance on this series, I knew she was going to be a mega-star. The only guest star I didn't like was the actress who played Mata Hari, who bore no resemblance whatsoever. The real Mata Hari was dark haired with dark eyes and had easily convinced everyone that she was an Indian princess. The actress in the series was fair-skinned, red-haired, blue-eyed and honestly not very attractive- very bad casting.
Foreverwingnut, I agree that Domiziana Giordano doesn't bear any resemblance to the real-life Mata Hari but I'm curious about how you knew that Catherine Zeta-Jones was going to be a "mega-star" after seeing her in this series. Her episode didn't air in the U.S. and by the time it was released on VHS in 1999, she had already become a big name in the business.

That said, yes, the trench battles are very well done and even though "Attack of the Hawkmen" isn't my hands-down favourite, it's VERY CLOSE to the top of my list!
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Is Montana actually Stoo! Prephaps they had a Freaky Friday moment!
Ha! Which one of us is Jodie Foster?
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Okay, I admit it. I tried on his pith helmet and something weird happened...
Does this mean I'm going to start collecting Indy dolls?
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:34 PM   #79
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...Catherine Zeta-Jones...

Was the best thing in The Darling Buds of May.

I longed to see more of her.

It was quite a few years later when I realized it was already possible to do so in Les 1001 nuits.

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Ha! Which one of us is Jodie Foster?

A Jodie Foster timeshare...

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Does this mean I'm going to start collecting Indy dolls?

And I have to go and live in Switzerland?
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Old 04-04-2016, 01:30 PM   #80
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For a long time I went back and forth on this series. Sometimes loving it, sometimes hating it, sometimes being utterly torn...This series was an amazing achievement, and a wonderful expansion of Indiana Jones' story. Even if you divorce Indy's name from it, it's still a wonderful series and truly underrated. Rewatching the whole series recently has given me an even more profound respect for George Lucas that I hadn't had before, and while he wasn't River Phoenix, I feel Flannery did a great job as Indy. It also has ignited my interest in the history surrounding the time period covered in the series - especially the Carrier years. And I deeply wish the George Hall segments in the 1990s hadn't been cut.
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Old 09-25-2016, 09:01 AM   #81
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I've come to appreciate the series more now. Maybe it's because I've reached the SPF episodes. The CC last episodes were better than the first. Russia, Greece and China were his best. I know more episodes were planned before the war but never made. Still I would've liked to see how Indy's mother passed away and what happened to Ms. Seymour. I think any further we should rely on the books instead. Even though there is a book I think Indy on the Titanic would make a great episode.

There is still so much you can do with (a young) Indiana Jones. I don't think it's all about the adventure but more the educational side. And Indy is a great character to help us learn about history of the early 20th century. But just history in general. That's why he's a teacher... part-time.
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Old 09-30-2016, 08:09 AM   #82
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Trenches of Hell was great and the one with Mata Hari was alright. Maybe it was worked out a little weak, of course the bottom line is that Indy was being used by her. But I thought there would be more on Mata Hari being a spy. I don't know her that good, I'm going to have get into that some time.

Phantom Train was not bad when it was about the train but the second half was less interesting. Even though there was action in it. Paul Freeman was delightful in his role though.

I don't know when I'll watch the next one, need a little break, have been watching the past week now nearly everyday and it's always 90 minutes. I guess you'll find out, next time I post here.
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Old 10-06-2016, 04:08 AM   #83
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I've been watching chapter 11 & 12 after a few days break. I'm halfway. The chapter in Africa was great and also when he's back in France. Indy was a Flyboy. But James Franco didn't show up. Interesting how Indy hates flying but doesn't have a problem with it in the movies. Maybe because he wasn't flying and does not have a problem with it if he can place his hat over his eyes and take a nap.
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Old 10-06-2016, 10:58 AM   #84
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Interesting how Indy hates flying but doesn't have a problem with it in the movies. Maybe because he wasn't flying and does not have a problem with it if he can place his hat over his eyes and take a nap.

I've always figured that was meant as a point in the line of Indy's evolving relationship with air travel, along with "You know how to fly, don't you?" "No, do you?" and "Fly yes, land no!" (An idea, incidentally, that the City of the Gods script deftly puts a bow on, with Indy nonchalantly executing an impressive looking landing.)
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Old 10-06-2016, 02:21 PM   #85
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I'm yet to see that one. Ten more to go. It's getting better.
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Old 10-06-2016, 03:38 PM   #86
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I'm yet to see that one. Ten more to go. It's getting better.

No, that was the Frank Darabont script for what become ...Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, though it seems I conflated two moments in one action sequence.

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Indy snap-rolls the plane rightside-up again with a "no big deal" look on his face. Apparently, he's become an expert pilot since "Temple of Doom."

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Indy wrestles the plane in a dead glide, dropping fast, desperately looking for a place to set down. He dead-sticks it toward a clearing, trying to line up for a landing.

INDY
Hang on!

The landing gear tears off as they clip a tree and belly-skid in. The wings are ripped off by passing tree trunks, then the plane finally comes to a stop. All things considered, it's a pretty damn good landing. Indy looks stunned that he pulled it off. He tosses a cocky smile over his shoulder at Marion...
...but she points. He turns forward to see FLAMES ERUPTING from the engine.
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Old 10-07-2016, 04:12 AM   #87
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Maybe somewhere between 1935 and 1938 he learned how to fly. I'd say 1937 than.
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Old 10-28-2016, 09:27 PM   #88
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I just started watching the first episode the other day and it was surprisingly pretty good. I haven't finished it yet but I think I definitely will.

How long did the entire series run for and how many total episodes are there?
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Old 10-29-2016, 11:13 AM   #89
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How long did the entire series run for and how many total episodes are there?

It's difficult to say because there are 2 incarnations of the series. There's the original broadcast The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles and the home video release which is the most common and easiest to find; The Adventures of Young Indiana Jones (I imagine this is the version you are watching?).

Chronicles has a really confusing history: it saw a total of 28 produced episodes (2 seasons, 1992-93), 4 of which went unaired and another 12 were coupled together to make 4 made for TV movies. Following the series' cancellation an additional 4 original movies were released between 1994 to 96.

Adventures is a recut of the original broadcast, with perhaps the biggest difference being, that most of the 'episodes' are actually 2 separate ones bridged together (sometimes clumsily) to make 90-minute long 'films' of which there are a total of 22. Others changes involve the removal of the Old Indy bookends, the release of the episodes in chronological order, the restoration of the unaired episodes and previously unseen footage from existing ones.

I have complete faith in my sources, but I would suggest talking to Stoo for more information. He has the most intimate knowledge of the series and might be able to clarify some things, including differences seen in broadcasts from outside of North America ...
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Old 11-24-2016, 11:42 PM   #90
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Maybe somewhere between 1935 and 1938 he learned how to fly. I'd say 1937 than.

I imagine after he got home from India, he immediately took flight lessons, just in case.

On topic, I've re-watched a lot of the Young Indy series recently, and I really do appreciate it so much. A lot of it is a work of art. It captures not only an incredibly interesting period of time (well, three interesting periods of time), but also, while SPF isn't Ford's Indy, he shows potential to grow into that guy.
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Old 04-22-2018, 04:07 AM   #91
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Re-watching lately, I must say that while I would've liked an occasional treasure hunt episode, some of the episodes really are awesome and expand on Indy's character greatly. I wish this series had more fans.

IMO, these are essential episodes:

-My First Adventure
-Travels with Father
-Spring Break Adventure
-Attack of the Hawkmen
-Daredevils of the Desert
-Masks of Evil
-Treasure of the Peacock's Eye
-Mystery of the Blues
-Winds of Change
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Old 04-23-2018, 08:51 AM   #92
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Re-watching lately, I must say that while I would've liked an occasional treasure hunt episode, some of the episodes really are awesome and expand on Indy's character greatly. I wish this series had more fans.

IMO, these are essential episodes:

-My First Adventure
-Travels with Father
-Spring Break Adventure
-Attack of the Hawkmen
-Daredevils of the Desert
-Masks of Evil
-Treasure of the Peacock's Eye
-Mystery of the Blues
-Winds of Change

Agreed. That is a great list. I would expand it a bit if you want to get a full YIJC experience. (Note that Mystery of the Blues happens after Winds of Change)

Love's Sweet Song - it connects Spring Break Adventure and sets up Indy in WWI
Trenches of Hell - I know this sequence (and the unmade part III) were important to George. It also serves as a contrast to Hawkmen in some way
Oganga, Giver and Taker of Life - An adventure (that starts fun and turns serious) with lots of life lessons for Indy.

Updated in order:

-My First Adventure
-Travels with Father
-Spring Break Adventure
-Love's Sweet Song
-Trenches of Hell
-Oganga, Giver and Taker of Life
-Attack of the Hawkmen
-Daredevils of the Desert
-Masks of Evil
-Treasure of the Peacock's Eye
-Winds of Change
-Mystery of the Blues

And maybe add the first half of Demons of Deception (Verdun). Of course, I like something about all of them.

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Old 04-23-2018, 11:36 AM   #93
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Agreed. That is a great list. I would expand it a bit if you want to get a full YIJC experience. (Note that Mystery of the Blues happens after Winds of Change)

Love's Sweet Song - it connects Spring Break Adventure and sets up Indy in WWI
Trenches of Hell - I know this sequence (and the unmade part III) were important to George. It also serves as a contrast to Hawkmen in some way
Oganga, Giver and Taker of Life - An adventure (that starts fun and turns serious) with lots of life lessons for Indy.

Updated in order:

-My First Adventure
-Travels with Father
-Spring Break Adventure
-Love's Sweet Song
-Trenches of Hell
-Oganga, Giver and Taker of Life
-Attack of the Hawkmen
-Daredevils of the Desert
-Masks of Evil
-Treasure of the Peacock's Eye
-Winds of Change
-Mystery of the Blues

And maybe add the first half of Demons of Deception (Verdun). Of course, I like something about all of them.

Laird

The ones I picked I did because they contain a good bulk of the story, are episodes that expand on Indy's background, and would I feel be the most accessible to new watchers.
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Agreed, totally great choices.
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Old 04-23-2018, 07:34 PM   #95
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Laird! Long time no see! (I've been mostly lurking myself.)

Re: those lists - why does Masks of Evil appear? Do each of you consider it an enjoyable or well-crafted chapter, an important YIJ arc story, Indy's "first encounter with the supernatural", or some other reason?

Asking because it's the one I'd disagree on including, so I'd like to hear the reasoning of others.
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Re: those lists - why does Masks of Evil appear? Do each of you consider it an enjoyable or well-crafted chapter, an important YIJ arc story, Indy's "first encounter with the supernatural", or some other reason?

Asking because it's the one I'd disagree on including, so I'd like to hear the reasoning of others.

Hey there. Yeah, I'm like a bad penny...

Anyway, for me, that was also a questionable episode, but I left it in because of two things.

First, I think the Istanbul section helps establish Indy's skittishness about marriage which links to his dashing out on Marion. (Plus, I love the sewer scenes in there - nice homage to From Russia with Love.)

The 2nd is that while Transylvania is the strangest of the series, it shows one of Indy's first experiences with things outside normal science. And it has a great score too.

Raiders112390, what was your original thinking?
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My thinking was pretty much the same as yours. The whole movie, both sections, has a very dark and haunted "feel" to it. There's a moroseness to the Istanbul part which mixes well with the darkness of Transylvania. I don't understand why the second part is considered strange honestly. If we consider Young Indy to be the youthful adventures of the guy in Raiders through KoTCS, why shouldn't he have an encounter with the supernatural? I think a vampire is no less believable than the Sankara Stones or Aliens. Also, I enjoyed the Transylvania section for a few reasons: I love the group dynamic, it almost feels like watching an RPG in a sense in that you have this party of highly skilled characters; I thought Maria made for an interesting woman, not the demure female Indy is used to at this stage (compare Maria and Molly). I love the fact that Dracula is played much differently than he is usually, especially for the 1990s. This came out around the same era as the 1992 Batman, showing Vlad as a seductive Prince, Interview with a Vampire which showed these hunky guys as very sensual vampires; it was refreshing to see a different approach; the rat-like and decadent sociopath feel of this vampire made him creepy. It also felt like a horror B-movie and reminded me of the haunted castle segment they had wanted to do.

Lastly, I feel Flannery was written much like Harrison's Indy throughout the movie, especially in the Instanbul part. He has the smugness, arrogance and self assuredness of his older self; in the linking segment he has the older Indy'sdark cynicism: "Yeah, well, at least you got some sleep." "It's not like I have a choice." His attitude toward the bureaucrats in intelligence, which gets him transferred, also feels a lot like how a young Indy would, shades of "bureaucratic fools." Indy is at his best when he is a darker character and not a wide eyed sweet kid.

I'm one of those people who went back and forth on Young Indy for years but I've come to love it and hope Disney keeps it canon. I actually don't think Indy meeting all these historical figures is that outlandish. Is it really any more outlandish than the same man discovering two of the biggest relics in Judeo-Christian religion only two years apart? Is it really that outlandish compared to the films, where Indy gets his fear of snakes, his scar, and his hat, and the blue print for his adventure gear all in the space of a single afternoon? Indy lives in a fantastic version of our world, where the supernatural is present and apparently, there are many forces at play - From aliens to various Gods (TOD showing us that the Hindu gods are likely real). This is a man who can survive being dragged by a truck (while nursing a bullet wound), survive slamming into a stone wall after probably going through the rapid fall of a bridge, and who survives a nuclear blast. Meeting people who would later become famous is no more outlandish than any of that.
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