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Old 01-09-2008, 06:36 PM   #1
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Indy dying in 4 or Indy 5 without Ford? Choose!

Would you rather Indy died in Indy 4 rather than another actor replacing him in Indy 5? I personally love the character too much and would swallow my pride and go with the new actor. Indy must not die, whatever the cost, in my opinion.

(If this has been covered then discard this thread like Tom Selleck's audition tapes).
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Old 01-09-2008, 06:46 PM   #2
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! Why do you have to make the decision so hard? Either way it would make me sad.I guess we cant ever let Indy die so i'd have to go with new actor ...i cant beleive i just said that.
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Old 01-09-2008, 08:25 PM   #3
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So... how can Indy die in 4 if he lived to be an old man in YIJ? Unless you throw out the series all together in the character's timeline.

That aside, my preference would be Indy lives (as expected) and the film series ends with 4. If G&S want to start something new in the future, then fine. But the Indiana Jones movie series concludes on its own terms.
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:14 PM   #4
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Anyway if Indy dies how could somebody continue it as
INDIANA JONES AND THE........? It wouldnt even be Indiana Jones anymore!It would be a whole diffrent situation it couldnt even be called the same thing .
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:45 PM   #5
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Anyway if Indy dies how could somebody continue it as
INDIANA JONES AND THE........? It wouldnt even be Indiana Jones anymore!It would be a whole diffrent situation it couldnt even be called the same thing .

Sarah, I mean the series would end with Indy's death - OR - he would survive into Indy 5 with another actor playing Indy.

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Old 01-09-2008, 10:52 PM   #6
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So... how can Indy die in 4 if he lived to be an old man in YIJ? Unless you throw out the series all together in the character's timeline.


The old version of Indy was Retcon'd out. Which means Lucas erased him from "Official" continuety. Which means the 90+ year old version of Indy DOES NOT EXIST within the Indiana Jones Universe.

I'd rather Indy Died and Shia take his place as the Future of the Franchize.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:23 AM   #7
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I'd rather Shia died at the end so he can't take his place. Ha.

I certainly don't want to see this franchise continue on (bastardized) with movies about Shia as Mutt Jones or something.

Indy can't die. This movie can't end on such a downer as the hero the movie is named after being dead. The whole point is that he is an everyday guy getting himself into situations he can't handle but getting out of them somehow. If he doesn't make it. Well damn. That's a bummer.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:05 PM   #8
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Was the Harrison version of "middle-aged Indy" also retcon'd out of the series? Btw, "retcon'd" is a new one to me... sounds ominous!

I still think there's no way Indy dies in the film (or the series), period. And without Ford, I don't see a need to continue the films either. There's something to be said for getting out of the game at the top of one's form and letting the work stand for itself thereafter.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:08 PM   #9
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These are are fun movies whose only intention is to give the audience a great time. Killing Indy would not make audiences happy, so they won't do that.

Lucas and Spielberg aren't retards, in so far as I can tell.
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Old 01-13-2008, 03:04 PM   #10
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I'd rather see a Mutt movie than Indy die.
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Old 01-13-2008, 03:07 PM   #11
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Me too. Indy wont die though. Im 100%. They wouldnt do that to us.
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:23 PM   #12
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He was still alive when they filmed the wrap video on the website, so I think we all know he won't die.
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Old 01-13-2008, 09:20 PM   #13
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Except the final 'wrap' shot of a film is rarely the last shot or scene in the film. Watch that video on the official site again and you'll see the wrap shot for RAIDERS was Marion's "death", and for LC it was a shot of the animatronic rhino on the train (of all things!). The fact that Harrison was there for the last shot simply means he is in the scene -- but the scene itself could take place early in the film, we don't know yet.
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Old 01-13-2008, 10:23 PM   #14
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The old version of Indy was Retcon'd out. Which means Lucas erased him from "Official" continuety. Which means the 90+ year old version of Indy DOES NOT EXIST within the Indiana Jones Universe.

I'd rather Indy Died and Shia take his place as the Future of the Franchize.


No, it doesnt means that. He just didnt like the way they turned out and choose to leave them out. It doesnt change the fact that Lucas has established that Indy lives to a ripe old age. Plus they didnt fit in with the 2 hour format they adapted putting single episodes together as movies.
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:00 PM   #15
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Whatever the reason, Rivers, that Lucas did have George Hall's performances removed with no further references to them certainly does leave open the possibility that he no longer exists. He might, but there's certainly no proof. Disestablishment is an option.
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:48 AM   #16
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ah no hell, no dying Indy. Remember it: Young Indiana Jones has been a old man: Indy with right eye patch. This movie will not see anyone, It's 1950... not enough, later we know when Indy 5, or not... what will to be Steven Spielberg again Indy 5???? wait...
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Old 01-14-2008, 09:48 AM   #17
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I'd rather Shia died at the end so he can't take his place. Ha.

I certainly don't want to see this franchise continue on (bastardized) with movies about Shia as Mutt Jones or something.

Indy can't die. This movie can't end on such a downer as the hero the movie is named after being dead. The whole point is that he is an everyday guy getting himself into situations he can't handle but getting out of them somehow. If he doesn't make it. Well damn. That's a bummer.

No Ticket has got it right! The series ends with Ford!
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Old 01-14-2008, 10:53 PM   #18
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I would rather see Indiana Jones get torn apart by a pack of ravenous wolves at the end of Indy 4 than see an Indy 5 starring Shia LeBouf.
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Old 01-20-2008, 04:47 AM   #19
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No, Indiana Jones can never die. Sure, he can 'retire', but his character can't die. He is timeless.

And, Harrison Ford is the only Indiana Jones.

If he quits, then they shouldn't make any films, nor should they attempt any spinoffs cashing in on the name, like they're doing with Terminator. I'd hate to see young hotshots like Shia LeBouf 'leading' in a new film or a spinoff television series.
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I would rather see Indiana Jones get torn apart by a pack of ravenous wolves at the end of Indy 4 than see an Indy 5 starring Shia LeBouf.

Was he delicious?
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Old 01-20-2008, 08:10 PM   #21
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The only possibility to do an Indy 5 without Ford is a prequel. Why change the actor if the character is in his sixties?

I'll go for the Dying option... in an epilogue in the 90's, still played by Ford. That could be a reason to remove the George Hall's scenes.
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Old 01-20-2008, 08:16 PM   #22
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I would rather see Indiana Jones get torn apart by a pack of ravenous wolves at the end of Indy 4 than see an Indy 5 starring Shia LeBouf.

If there is any Mutt spin-off it better not bear the Indiana Jones name - unless Harrison Ford is the lead actor or main character.

And I will be if Indy gives his hat and whip to Shia.

Having said that I'm not against any Mutt Williams solo movies. As long its separate from the Indy series and doesn't try to make Shia into a new young Indy.
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Old 01-21-2008, 04:42 AM   #23
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If there is any Mutt spin-off it better not bear the Indiana Jones name - unless Harrison Ford is the lead actor or main character.

And I will be if Indy gives his hat and whip to Shia.

Having said that I'm not against any Mutt Williams solo movies. As long its separate from the Indy series and doesn't try to make Shia into a new young Indy.

I guess there is a possibility of Indy "retiring on screen", by passing on his legacy in a symbolic manner (as suggested by the poster above - giving his hat and whip to Shia), but if thats going to happen they better leave the series right there and not make any more films under the "Indiana Jones" name, unless Indy 5 is a prequel or something

I have faith though that those involve appreciate and respect who is the man behind the name and legacy of Indiana Jones, so they won't do something as stupid as making an "Indiana Jones presents" or "Indiana Jones: A New Legend" or some spinoff like that.
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Old 02-25-2008, 04:16 PM   #24
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Would you rather Indy died in Indy 4 rather than another actor replacing him in Indy 5? I personally love the character too much and would swallow my pride and go with the new actor. Indy must not die, whatever the cost, in my opinion.

(If this has been covered then discard this thread like Tom Selleck's audition tapes).

Well then you are naive. All great heroes die at some point and if there is ever going to be an Indiana Jones 5 then it shouldn't be called Indiana Jones it should be called the Adventures of Mutt Williams and the Journey to Atlantis or something crazy like that . He has the hat that Indy gives him and Indy is dead.

That is the only way we could have an Indy 5 movie if not then they should stop at 4 because the fourth film is most likely going to be disappointing anyway. I mean it is brought to you by the guy who made another Star Wars Trilogy that was the most disappointing thing since prom night for some trek fan.
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Old 02-25-2008, 04:22 PM   #25
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I mean it is brought to you by the guy who made another Star Wars Trilogy that was the most disappointing thing since prom night for some trek fan.

If Lucas was directing, I'd be worried. But Spielberg is, so I'm not. Even though Lucas created the character, he's always seemed to pretty much let it be Spielberg's series and more or less take a backseat.
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