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Old 12-06-2013, 03:12 AM   #526
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I identified some music from Perils of Cupid that hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet.

While Young Indy sneaks around the palace (37:00-39:00), the archduke and his guests are listening to Mozart’s Piano Concerto in D Minor, K. 466, 2nd Movement (Romanza). Rosenthal has incorporated elements of it into the score as well.
You can find a very similar version to the one used in the episode on the very last track of disc 3 of the score for the film Amadeus. This will add another nice little 10 minutes of music to your YIJC collections. The piece complements the musical cues of this episode very well.
Yes, it's a 2-year-old topic but I wanted to thank Demitasse, again, for identifying this. Great post & why I love The Raven.

A few days ago, my girlfriend & I were in Vienna and went to see an orchestra perform Mozart & Strauss. The concert was in a nice, big, old Austrian building and THEY PLAYED THIS PIECE. I was really hoping they would and they did...beautifully. 'Twas a very special experience to hear some 'Young Indy music' PLAYED LIVE in the SAME CITY & SAME MONTH where the episode took place (105 years later)!

Our windows at Hotel Bristol were right across the street from the Vienna State Opera House. Many of the hotel room doors, on each & every floor, held plaques indicating the years of when famous people had LIVED in those rooms for long periods of time (from the 1890s onwards...including Teddy Roosevelt, 1910). Our own hallway was an international 'who's who' list of late 19th/early 20th century musical celebrities with overlapping timeframes. This place must have been one hell of a party back in those days! Richard Strauss had our room from c.1919-1924.

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*** NEXT MYSTERY TO SOLVE from "Vienna/Perils of Cupid": The violin piece playing in the background when Indy interrupts the Archduke at dinner. Could it be more Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart? Or perhaps some Strauss (Johann I or II)?

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P.S. Tash and MDew and Demitasse: I've been meaning to comment on your earlier posts but need to get this Vienna trip out of my system while the memories are still fresh. Will reply later...after the buzz wears off.
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Old 01-07-2014, 04:07 PM   #527
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As announced over on its message board, the 1990-2005 archives of Film Score Monthly are now available for free download.

Relevant to this thread is Issue #44 which contains an issue with Joel McNeely about scoring YIJ. The article gives some background on McNeely and he discusses Lucas' dreaded temp-tracks, why Africa is more "jazz" than Paris, and the challenge of living up to the incredible visuals of the episodes.

These earlier PDFs are scans/bitmaps with no OCR so the text is not searchable. I don't suppose anyone wants to dig in for other YIJC tidbits?

EDIT: issue #30/31 has a review of the Vol 2 OST, and issue #36/37 has a review of the Vol 3 OST. There's an extremely short interview with Rosenthal in issue #49 that mentions YIJC - and the SW prequels and Indy 4 (this is in 1994!)

WARNING: The file server is hella slow. On an extremely fast connection the 32MB download took several minutes and appeared to hang. I assume they're using an RFC 1149 compliant server or something.

WOW!!!! InexorableTash, you have made my day with this post. Fantastic find. I will download all issues and will try to OCR them all in a hope maybe to find more references. Thanks sooo muchhhh for thissssss!!!!!!!
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Old 04-14-2014, 04:11 PM   #528
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More music identified!
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Guess I'm on a roll here. Maybe I should start saving these for a rainy day too, but when it rains it pours, eh Stoo?! (hint, hint)

I just ID'd some more music, this time from Passion for Life. Stoo was right about his hunch (way back on the first page of this thread!) about the opening piece being by Ladysmith Black Mambazo.

Rejoice, for the music from that beautiful African montage that opens the episode is called "Umusa Kankulunkulu (Mercy Of God)." It's the first track on their album, Journey of Dreams (1988), and will hopefully conjure more from Passion for Life than, er, "Graceland"!

Woohoo! Three and a half more minutes to clock in!
Demitasse, I don't know why I didn't comment on your discovery 2.5 years ago but am doing so now because there is more to add. (Better later than never, eh?)

The music at the very beginning of the DVD is, "Ibhubesi", from the exact same Ladysmith Black Mambazo album, "Journey of Dreams" (but it's edited a tiny, little bit). The track which you identified, "Umusa Kankulunkulu", comes later, during the scenes where Indy & Meto are hanging out together, watching the wildlife. During that later part, the soundtrack seamlessly segues back into the final stanzas of "Ibhubesi".

Inexorable Tash's spreadsheet will be updated with these details.

In Zulu, "ibhubesi" means "lion". Funny how South African music was used for a story that takes place in East Africa ('cuz, like, all of Africa is the same, y'know?)
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Old 04-14-2014, 11:10 PM   #529
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The music at the very beginning of the DVD is, "Ibhubesi", from the exact same Ladysmith Black Mambazo album, "Journey of Dreams" (but it's edited a tiny, little bit). The track which you identified, "Umusa Kankulunkulu", comes later, during the scenes where Indy & Meto are hanging out together, watching the wildlife. During that later part, the soundtrack seamlessly segues back into the final stanzas of "Ibhubesi".

Nice!!! Way to go Stoo!! Can't wait to track it down!
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Old 04-15-2014, 02:46 PM   #530
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Demitasse, the whole album is worth having, regardless of the Indy connection…and THANK YOU for initially confirming my suspicions!

"Umusa Kankulunkulu" is also used again during the part where Meto wakes up Indy in his tent and they go off on the hunt.

The 2 tracks by Ladysmith Black Mambazo are rather essential for a full soundtrack of this episode. As far as I'm aware, these are the only pieces of music which were borrowed from outside sources & not recorded specifically for the TV show. (Are there any others?)
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Old 07-31-2014, 10:09 AM   #531
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Chalk up another one for Soundhound. (Thanks Tash!)

In Phantom Train of Doom, when Indy and Remy are being marched into the Fusileers' camp at gunpoint, the Marriage of Figaro from the Barber of Seville is playing over the loudspeakers (as Josh has already identified here).

You can find an almost identical version here, track number 8. If you want to add it chronologically to your other Phantom tracks, it should go in between McNeely's "Veldt Voyage" and "The 21st Royal Fusileers".

Artist: Gianluigi Gelmetti & etc...
Title: Il Barbiere di Siviglia, ATTO PRIMO: Cavatina: La ran le lerea ... Largo al factotum (Figaro)
Album: Rossini: Overtures & Opera Arias
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Old 08-01-2014, 11:57 PM   #532
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You can find an almost identical version here, track number 8. If you want to add it chronologically to your other Phantom tracks, it should go in between McNeely's "Veldt Voyage" and "The 21st Royal Fusileers".

Nice! Added to my playlist.

(BTW, minor plug for Google Play Music: All Access (GPM:AA) - I don't work on that project but I do work for the company. In addition to being a music store like iTunes or Amazon, GPM lets you upload all your music to "the cloud" (up to 20k tracks) for free and has good Web/Android/iPhone apps. GPM:AA is a subscription service that lets you listen to anything in the GPM store as long as you're subscribed, *and* you can add anything in the GPM store to your library/playlists. So after a listen I just dropped the track Demitasse found into my playlist... right where it belongs.)
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Old 08-24-2014, 10:37 PM   #533
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Just picked up vol. 1-3. Now to get vol 4 and start digging through the previous mentioned games and dvds.looking forward to the fun.
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Old 09-05-2014, 01:31 PM   #534
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Right on, Shazam! It's a mammoth effort to compile everything but don't hesitate to ask any questions down the road.

Here's the guide on InexorableTash's website:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...2c&hl=en#gid=2
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Old 11-22-2014, 02:55 PM   #535
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"Arrival in Paris" on Vol.1 is improperly credited to Joel McNeely, which (to anyone following this thread knows) is not an isolated case. Many classic & traditional themes have been incorporated into the Young Indy music and credit was given to whomever, supposedly, for their 'arrangement'. This track, however, cannot be classified as such because there's nothing different in the melody.

For anyone curious, here's where it can heard on the DVDs:

"Passion for Life/Paris 1908"
- From arriving at the train station up until Indy seeing the Mona Lisa.

"Demons of Deception/Paris 1916"
- From arriving at the train station up until Indy getting dropped off at Professor Levi's place.
- Indy arriving at Mata Hari's hotel for the 1st time.
- With Remy & prostitutes at the brothel.

I've heard the tune twice very recently. First, while actually in Paris, an accordion player was doing it (outside a major train station, too!) but I didn't have time to stop & ask. Second, was in a movie (with an almost identical shot to one in Young Indy).

It's definitely a waltz (due to the triple metre beat) so I've been searching for 'famous French waltzes'...to no avail.

What the heck is it?
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Old 11-26-2014, 05:24 PM   #536
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No luck on the waltz with my audio matching tools.

But... Shazam correctly matched it to the YIJC Vol 1 soundtrack, which is nice.
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Old 12-05-2014, 11:39 AM   #537
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Darn it. Thanks for the effort anyhow, my friend. The hunt continues!
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Old 06-13-2015, 01:30 PM   #538
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Shortly before joining I spent several hours reading through this entire thread. It is fascinating about the discoveries and how much more music is out there. I just wanted to say thank for the efforts of all involved as I work to make a more complete soundtrack. The spreadsheets are very helpful.
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Welcome, Sputnik! And thanks for the kind words.

Let us know if you want to help out - we still have several episodes to do score breakdowns for (mostly early eps)
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Old 06-13-2015, 02:59 PM   #540
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Thanks. Are you referring to breakdowns like this:

http://www.youngindianajonesmusic.co...ssion-for-life

Or something different?

While working through the spreadsheet and watching the episodes, I've been working on making covers for each one and I'd love some feedback. Where would be the best place to do that?
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Thanks. Are you referring to breakdowns like this:

http://www.youngindianajonesmusic.co...ssion-for-life

Or something different?

Exactly. If you look at many of the other episodes we've identified where all of the OST tracks appear in the episodes. Basically, those pages contain dumps of the spreadsheet. (I have a tool that does this. I should tweak it to make the page contents easier to understand, and just point to the full data in the sheet.)

That particular page shows that we know there are 6 tracks but don't know the order/timing in the episode, or how much repetition or unreleased music there is.

Ping me via email (@gmail.com) and I can grant you edit access to the spreadsheet if you're interested.

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While working through the spreadsheet and watching the episodes, I've been working on making covers for each one and I'd love some feedback. Where would be the best place to do that?

I don't think anyone would object if you used this thread! But feel free to start another one if you want, e.g. in the "Fanwork" forum.
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Old 10-28-2015, 08:08 PM   #542
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Intrada is still interested in doing a complete Young Indy release:

http://www.underscores.fr/rencontres...-feigelson-vo/
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Old 10-29-2015, 01:11 PM   #544
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I sent an email of support via the Contact link off of http://shop.intrada.com - don't know if it will help but it is unlikely to hurt.
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I fear that the chances of them being released on cd are slimming as cd sales are dwindling.

Perhaps getting them as downloads has a better chance?
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I agree that physical media is all but dead (and no sadness here), but it's a niche market and slow to adapt. All of the soundtrack publishers - Intrada, La-La Land, Varese, FSM... they all still come out with limited run CD releases.

Heck, for the BTTF releases this year they're also doing vinyl!
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Heck, for the BTTF releases this year they're also doing vinyl!

That sounds more like BTTP...
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Intrada is still interested in doing a complete Young Indy release:

http://www.underscores.fr/rencontres...-feigelson-vo/
For posterity's sake, here's the bit:

Does the fact that Disney bought Lucasfilm mean something can be expected for the Star Wars and Indiana Jones sagas, or Willow?
I’m not sure yet. I’d love to do the complete Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, so we’ll see. I love the music of Laurence Rosenthal and Joel McNeely, who did a large number of the episodes and TV movies. And there are some Frédéric Talgorn scores in there as well, and I love his music. It would be an amazing set.


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Let's keep our fingers crossed. A "complete" set would be enormous! Considering a CD can hold about 74-80 minutes of music max. (without compression), it hurts my brain trying to calculate how many discs such a set would be!

(Tash, somewhere in this thread you posted the total amount of minutes available so far but I can't find it.)
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That sounds more like BTTP...
Hey, don't knock vinyl. Recent years have seen a resurgence in LPs so they've been making a comeback. I even bought my niece a little stereo and Beatles albums and she loves it.

As a long-time record collector, I'd MUCH prefer CDs to downloads because I want something to actually touch…but nothing beats vinyl for the warmth of sound.
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(Tash, somewhere in this thread you posted the total amount of minutes available so far but I can't find it.)

http://raven.theraider.net/showpost....&postcount=442

But yeah, a complete release would have about 30 minutes of score per 45 minute TV episode or a nice round 60 minutes per DVD chapter. 22 chapters = 22 hours!

Is buy it all. But if Intrada want to ask me for suggestions for a more edited release I'm all ears, too!
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Old 11-07-2015, 07:18 AM   #550
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Think it would help in this day and age to start some kind of petition? I remember in the late 90's and early 00's there were lots of online petitions to get things onto DVD (even YIJC!) just to show the potential for fan $upport.
It might just be better to email through the contact page as Tash did.
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