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Old 10-30-2016, 05:10 PM   #26
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Speaking of Indiana Jones and Mata Hari, does anyone know if there is a way to read James Luceno's novelization of the Mata Hari episode online somewhere?
Nice to "see" you again, dr.jones1986.

While I can't directly help you with your quest, it might get more attention if you posed the question in this thread:
Mata Hari Affair - Luceno novelization
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Old 11-15-2016, 09:47 PM   #27
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It's a phantom train!

November 1916 - Phantom Train of Doom. One of the strongest outings in the series (in my opinion), with action, intrigue, a great cast of characters — on both sides of the battles — and of course the stellar score by Joel McNeely.
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Old 11-26-2016, 10:01 AM   #28
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Agreed! Phantom Train is one of those episodes in the series that stands out as "feature film" quality! I especially love the scenes between Indy, Remy and Von Lettow in the second half of the movie (such well-written dialogue by Frank Darabont)! We witness the seed of Indy's character arc in Oganga being planted with the military 'indoctrination' of Von Lettow: "A soldier's first duty is to obey orders" - words he would find himself eating in the next episode ...
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Old 11-28-2016, 08:47 AM   #29
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Nice that Indy got to meet Frederick Selous again, especially considering that he'd be killed in action just 2 months later. The caption for the photo below is, "SELOUS IN EAST AFRICA, SHORTLY BEFORE HE WAS KILLED", so it's pretty close to what he would've looked like in November 1916:



"Phantom Train" has always been my favourite episode. Being interested in the East African campaign even before the series began, it was a real treat for me when it aired. The story is a fantasy, for sure, but an exciting one!
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Old 12-08-2016, 10:06 AM   #30
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December Details - Part 1

Around 2003, I plotted out Indy’s entire route for this episode and the perfect time to share is here & now. (Wish I’d had more free time in November ‘cuz I would’ve posted the route for “Phantom Train”, too. )

Determining the starting point:
According to dialogue, the guns are needed for the planned attack on Tabora and, in the next chapter, Indy says that he must bring them to Lake Tanganyika. The Belgian force had been divided in two for the advance on Tabora so this puts Indy in the Brigade Sud (South) who captured Kigoma & Ujiji. In reality, the Battle of Tabora was 3 months earlier (08-19 September 1916) so we have to shift the calendar and pretend that this hasn’t happened yet.

28 Nov - Belgians capture Kigoma, the major German port on Lake Tanganyika & railhead to Tabora. (Actual date: 28 Jul 1916)
01 Dec - Belgians march from Kigoma to Ujiji. (10 km / 6 miles)
--- Episode begins ---
02 Dec - Indy leads successful assault at Ujiji. (Actual date: 02 or 05 Aug 1916 - sources differ)
           - Indy is promoted to captain.
03 Dec - His company marches back to Kigoma.
           - Embarks from Kigoma on a steamer across Lake Tanganyika.
           - Indy starts writing another letter to T.E. Lawrence.*
           - Arrives in the Belgian Congo at Albertville.
04 Dec - By train from Albertville to end of the line in Kabalo. (Railway completed in 1915)
05 Dec - By boat on the Lualaba River from Kabalo downstream to Kongolo.
06 Dec - By train from Kongolo to Kindu. (Railway completed in 1910)

*Date confirmed by dialogue

As a matter of interest, Ujiji is the site where Burton & Speke first saw Lake Tanganyika and, more famously, where H.M. Stanley uttered the immortal words, “Dr. Livingstone, I presume?”



My new computer can’t play the interactive features on the Young Indy DVDs and I can’t remember if a map was shown in the Oganga video game. Will have to fire up my old one and check because it would fun to compare.
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Awesome analysis, Stoo!

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Wish I’d had more free time in November ‘cuz I would’ve posted the route for “Phantom Train”, too.

Better late than never!
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Old 12-16-2016, 01:12 PM   #32
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December Details - Part 2

07 Dec - By boat from Kindu downstream on the Lualaba River.
08 Dec - Arrives at Ponthierville.
           - By rail from Ponthierville to Stanleyville. (Railway completed in 1906)
09 Dec - By boat from Stanleyville downstream on the Congo River.
12 Dec - Arrives at Bonga.

Fun fact: The area around Ponthierville (now modern-day Ubundu) is where some parts of "The African Queen" were filmed.





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Better late than never!
If I get around to it, I'll probably post that route in the "Phantom Train" thread:
Ep. 16: YIJ and the Phantom Train of Doom
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Old 12-18-2016, 12:59 PM   #33
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Stoo, as a fan, I must admire your dedication in painstakingly documenting Indy's voyage in Oganga. These graphics are just simply awesome (and I especially love how they resemble the Map montages from the film series)! I would totally love to see a Phantom Train map too!

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Nice that Indy got to meet Frederick Selous again, especially considering that he'd be killed in action just 2 months later. The caption for the photo below is, "SELOUS IN EAST AFRICA, SHORTLY BEFORE HE WAS KILLED", so it's pretty close to what he would've looked like in November 1916:

Sorry, I'm a little bit late with this since we are already out of November, but I've been curious as to whether or not there was an actual "Old and the Bold" division serving in the East African campaign (as depicted in Phantom Train)? If so, was Selous part of it? My searches on google have not procured me much results.
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Old 02-03-2017, 01:09 PM   #34
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December Details - Part 3

Catching up...(my holiday season was a busy one):

13 Dec - By boat from Bonga across the Congo River.
           - By foot into French Equatorial Africa.
15 Dec - Arrives near Bobangui. Finds orphaned baby.*
25 Dec - Captain Lafleur dies.
26 Dec - Arrives at Franceville.
           - By boat from Franceville downstream on the Ogooué/Ogowé River.
29 Dec - Passes by Schweitzer's hospital at Lambaréné.**
           - Lieutenant Arnaud dies.
31 Dec - Major Boucher dies.
           - Arrives at Port-Gentil.

*Bobangui was Barthélemy Boganda's birthplace so some leeway must be given to explain why they were in that area. (Major Boucher was lost and Indy eventually realized it.) Whatever route was taken to get near Bobangui, it would have gone through the German territory of Neukamerun. Perhaps Boucher had a faulty compass because they were completely off course!

**Schweitzer's hospital is shown as being on the starboard side of the boat when it would've been on the port side.



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Old 02-03-2017, 04:23 PM   #35
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1917 January

01 Jan - French Equatorial Africa, Port-Gentil - Indy mails letter to T.E. Lawrence
?? Jan - French Equatorial Africa, Lambaréné - Indy meets Albert Schweitzer
?? Jan - French Equatorial Africa, Pahouin village on the Ogooué/Ogowé River.
?? Jan - French Equatorial Africa, Lambaréné
?? Jan - French Equatorial Africa, Port-Gentil - Albert Schweitzer deported.
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?? Jan - France, Saint-Nazaire - Indy & Remy arrive by steamship, returning with guns
?? Jan - France, Paris              - Indy & Remy join Belgian Intelligence
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Go Stoo! Keep up the awesome, it is appreciated.
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Old 02-06-2017, 01:50 PM   #37
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Go Stoo! Keep up the awesome, it is appreciated.
We're in the thick of my favourite period of the series so I'm on it like jam on toast. Been working on motion graphics of these maps (& more). Stay tuned!

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Stoo, as a fan, I must admire your dedication in painstakingly documenting Indy's voyage in Oganga. These graphics are just simply awesome (and I especially love how they resemble the Map montages from the film series)! I would totally love to see a Phantom Train map too!

Sorry, I'm a little bit late with this since we are already out of November, but I've been curious as to whether or not there was an actual "Old and the Bold" division serving in the East African campaign (as depicted in Phantom Train)? If so, was Selous part of it? My searches on google have not procured me much results.
Thanks, Ace. I tried to match the movies' maps as much as possible (and "Phantom Train" is in progress).

Indeed, the "Old & the Bold" did exist. They were the 25th Royal Fusiliers and, yes, Selous was one of their captains. (You should watch the documentaries on the DVD!)

For more info: I just posted a great link in the "Phantom Train" thread for you:
Post #38 - Ep. 16: YIJ and the Phantom Train of Doom

Last month also marked the 100th anniversary of Selous' death, shot in the head by a sniper on a shore of the Rufiji River, German East Africa, 4 January 1917.
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Old 03-02-2017, 09:46 AM   #38
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Post 1917 February - March

02 Feb - In Paris, Indy writes another letter to T.E. Lawrence.
26 Feb - Indy & Remy transfer to French Intelligence.
27 Feb - Indy & Remy say farewell.
           - Indy arrives at Ravenel, airfield of the Lafayette Escadrille.
28 Feb - Meets Charles Nungusser.
           - Crashes in plane near Hamm, Germany.
           - Taken as prisoner by Baron von Richthofen 15km from Hamm.
           - Lunch with von Richthofen (& Hermann Göring).
           - Escapes back to Ravenel by plane.
           - Rides in car to Paris to get Nungusser.
01 Mar - Photographs aerial duel with von Richthofen over Saint-Quentin, France.
13 Mar - Final mission (Friday the 13th).
14 Mar - United States enters the war (In reality: 06 April).
           - Driven to Paris by Charles Nungusser.
           - Takes bus 2 hours southeast of Paris.
           - Leaves in plane with Nungusser.
15 Mar - Parachutes into Hannover, Germany.
           - Train to Ahlhorn, Germany.
           - Motorcycle back to Hannover, Germany.
           - By plane back to France.

Contrary to popular belief, the bulk of "Hawkmen" does NOT take place in February! The calendar in Indy's bunk is the tell-tale clue because it's clearly March (the previous month ends on the 28th). His assignment is for '2 weeks' and his last mission is on the 13th, which means he probably arrived on 27 Feb. Notice that the direction of Indy's pencil strokes seem to indicate this precisely.

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Contrary to popular belief, the bulk of "Hawkmen" does NOT take place in February! The calendar in Indy's bunk is the tell-tale clue because it's clearly March (the previous month ends on the 28th). His assignment is for '2 weeks' and his last mission is on the 13th, which means he probably arrived on 27 Feb. Notice that the direction of Indy's pencil strokes seem to indicate this precisely.

Nice piece of close-reading there.
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As always, Stoo - very much appreciated!
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Great work Stoo !!
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Strangely though, unless they used a different calendar, March 1, 1917 was a Thursday. March 13th was a Tuesday. In 1917 the only Fridays the 13th were in April and July.
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Strangely though, unless they used a different calendar, March 1, 1917 was a Thursday. March 13th was a Tuesday. In 1917 the only Fridays the 13th were in April and July.
Glad that you're still around, Phil.

Indeed, they didn't use a 1917 calendar...but that's the way of the Indy World so we have to give some leeway.

Re: Friday the 13th.
As far as I'm aware, France & several other European countries start their calendar weeks on Mondays (putting the TV show's March 13th as a Saturday) but it seems that Indy has a N.American calendar with the week starting on Sundays (putting March 13th on a Friday). The reason being that the camera zooms in on the 13th and dissolves into his face, conveying that date as a bad omen.

In my mind, Indy is probably occupying the bunk of his predecessor and marking a calendar brought from the States by the guy who died.
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In my mind, Indy is probably occupying the bunk of his predecessor and marking a calendar brought from the States by the guy who died.

Apparently they had a surplus of 1914 calendars.
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Apparently they had a surplus of 1914 calendars.
Ha, yes! It was surplus for those aeronautical scoundrels. Either that or the filmmakers used one from 1925, 1931, 1942, 1953, 1959, 1970, 1981, 1987.
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Hey Stoo... Phil ??
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