lightsyder
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DIrishB said:
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Maybe the owner can get some better scans of the three books in question?
The Indiana Jones Timeline / Chronology
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And here is his response...
Maybe the owner can get some better scans of the three books in question?
Plaristes
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Another tiny piece of timeline info to throw into the mix. Indiana Jones and His Life of Adventure, by Lionel Grigson and Philip Chidlow, contains journal entries by Indy describing some events from the first three films. The entry for the Chachapoyan Temple incident is dated 1935, while the rest of the film is dated 1936.
Just thought I'd point that out. Now we can all return to our Raiders timeline confusion.
Just thought I'd point that out. Now we can all return to our Raiders timeline confusion.
Crack that whip
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I think that's simply wrong; the opening specifically tells us it's "South America, 1936," indicating it's 1936 during this sequence in South America (Peru, to be more specific). If anything, most or all of the rest of the movie could take place in 1937, but the opening is definitely 1936.
That source could be right in placing the opening and the rest of the movie in separate years, though; it's just that it has its dates shifted one year too early if they are.
That source could be right in placing the opening and the rest of the movie in separate years, though; it's just that it has its dates shifted one year too early if they are.
Plaristes said:Another tiny piece of timeline info to throw into the mix. Indiana Jones and His Life of Adventure, by Lionel Grigson and Philip Chidlow, contains journal entries by Indy describing some events from the first three films. The entry for the Chachapoyan Temple incident is dated 1935, while the rest of the film is dated 1936.
Just thought I'd point that out. Now we can all return to our Raiders timeline confusion.
Crack that whip said:
Have to agree. I'm inclined to think the entirety of Raiders occurred over a few months in 1936.
I swear, concerning the movies specific placements, its like there's an intentional dis-information program going on, like the government covering up UFOs or something (I don't believe in them, just to be clear
). Between the different dates in the Lost Journal, Ultimate Guide, and now this book (as well as date indicators within the movies themselves), there's no way to accurately pin them down based on any one source.
Stoo
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Like Crack and DIrish have said, the 1935 date is not right but this book you mention sounds interesting! I've never even heard of it before. Maybe it deserves its own thread?Plaristes said:Another tiny piece of timeline info to throw into the mix. Indiana Jones and His Life of Adventure, by Lionel Grigson and Philip Chidlow, contains journal entries by Indy describing some events from the first three films. The entry for the Chachapoyan Temple incident is dated 1935, while the rest of the film is dated 1936.
Just thought I'd point that out. Now we can all return to our Raiders timeline confusion.
Junior Jones
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DIrishB said:
Any idea where Temple of Yearning fits? I'm stumped.
Stoo
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From page 6:
Plus, if "Staff of Kings" is also supposed to be 1939, it looks like that year is also piling up to be another busy one for Dr. Jones!
I was just thinking about this again and if you read the DH comics chronologically, it doesn't make sense to have "Thunder" before "Fate of Atlantis." Obviously, the math indicates '36 but maybe that was Indy's foggy memory since the dialogue between himself and Sophia clearly show that it takes place after "Fate", May-June 1939. So whoever it was that originally pegged it as '38 didn't get it quite right. This seems to be a case of internal story continuity taking precedence over real-world dates. 1939 or later for "Thunder", I would say.DIrishB said:
Plus, if "Staff of Kings" is also supposed to be 1939, it looks like that year is also piling up to be another busy one for Dr. Jones!
Haven't read it yet but good question. I know it's only a short story but there aren't any clues?Junior Jones said:
DIrishB said:
But it's important to realize that not all of the cancelled stories were cancelled because of any "reason" other than poor sales.Those Young Indy episodes weren't made because the show got canned. Those Young Indy books weren't made because the franchise lost its steam.DIrishB said:
One way to include them in the timeline would be to clearly denote them as "possibly apocryphal," or just as "unreleased and therefore not necessarily canon."
If you ever do change your mind and start including unreleased tales, be sure to include the Napkin Affair! That one was so close to released, the whole thing's on the internet.
Jono11 said:
You make a good point, but part of the point behind mine was to make the existing and available stories into a simple chronology. Since the unreleased episodes aren't available to the Indy fans or general public, I see it as pointless to include them in a timeline since, from the audience's viewpoint, they never happened.
Whats the Napkin Affair? Any links?
Stoo
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Just did a search and found it. It's in a fan fiction section and was apparently written for issue #2 of the "ill-fated Indiana Jones Fan Club Newsletter" so it doesn't fit the criteria. Here's a direct link to the short story: http://www.indyfan.com/fanfic/napkin.htmlDIrishB said:
Stoo said:
Cool, thanks Stoo!
And I know I've been promising an update to the timeline for awhile (and have been slacking), but I promise--to those interested anyway--that I'll post an updated version once Staff of Kings is released (since thats the last upcoming Indy release until Army of Dead in September).
Stoo
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Thanks to BrodyIsDead for scanning the remainder of his Young Telegraph comic strips. We now know that "Mountains of Superstition" takes place before "Plantation Treasure" so you'll have to cram it in there.DIrishB said:
It was a good idea to hold off until the bulk of new stories were out. Looking forward to the updated version, DB!
chicago103
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I have been gone awhile and haven't read through this entire thread but why the heck isn't Kingdom of the Crystal Skull on the timeline yet? I mean it has been a year since the movie came out!
lightsyder
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chicago103 said:
It's the very last item in the timeline...
Crack that whip
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DIrishB said:
Looking at this timeline again, I noticed the first and last items listed above, and momentarily wondered whether you were putting everything at the Club Obi Wan and the rest of Shanghai, etc. six months ahead of most of the movie (via a really long stopover in Mayapore, perhaps?), but then realized you must mean the office prologue in the new young adult novelization (with the letter concerning the Peacock's Eye, etc.) (and looking back, I see Plaristes specifically suggested adding that, back on the first page of the thread).
I really need to pay more attention to your source key (what's underlined, what's bolded, what's green, etc.).DIrishB said:
Is this meant to include the wedding? I was under the impression Indy and Marion tie the knot the following spring, around March or April or May of '58. I know there's a questionable invitation shown in one of the recent books - the Ultimate Guide, I think - that I don't have yet, but since we're not putting too much trust in those, well...
Anyway, the wedding certainly looks like spring to me, from what we can see through the church doors, and the novelization also mentions the dogwoods flowering.
Stoo
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No love for the Old Indy bookends, lightsyder?lightsyder said:
Yes, the wedding must be during spring '58. This was "sort of" established in another thread (can't remember which, but "The Complete Making of.." book alludes to a spring wedding.) The date of the invitation, Oct 18th, is way off (it actually occurs while Indy & Mutt leave for Peru) and comes from the book, "The Greatest Adventures of Indiana Jones". As seen on this page (posted by yours truly).Crack that whip said:
Anyway, there's recently been an unfortunate turn-of-events that has hindered DIrish's further input to his timeline.
Hopefully, he'll chime in soon...)lightsyder
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Stoo said:No love for the Old Indy bookends, lightsyder?
Never seen but I have nothing against them. They aren't on the timeline though...